User talk:Spidey104/2014 Archive

January 2014

Hello, I'm SummerPhD. I noticed that you used an edit summary while editing the page Spider-Man in film that didn't seem very civil. Wikipedia needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. [1] SummerPhD (talk) 02:46, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Of course it didn't seem civil. It was intentionally uncivil. I previously tried being civil to get this editor to change his attitude; it did nothing. I have no expectations that he will change his behavior, but maybe this will succeed in shaming him into changing his behavior. Spidey104 04:12, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't really care what your intentions or expectations were, personal attacks are not acceptable. If you find another editor's attitude to be problematic, start by discussing the issue on the editor's talk page, as I am doing here. If the problematic behavior continues despite warnings, blocks may follow. - SummerPhD (talk) 04:22, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Start by discussing the issue on the editor's talk page? I already attempted that. Maybe you should research an ongoing problem before assuming anything. Spidey104 04:29, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I am aware that you've been attacking this problematic editor since at least July.[2] I also see that the editor received a final warning for bad cites in November. Rather than pursing this accepted avenue, you've continued the attacks. Personal attacks are not acceptable. You have been warned. - SummerPhD (talk) 04:46, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

And if you look further back than July you will see that I tried to correct the errors politely. Furthermore, if you check my interactions with other editors you will note that I have many editors who would consider me civil and a great help. So instead of warning me you should try to solve the root problem here and do something about his behavior. Spidey104 13:36, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Rather than pursing the accepted avenue (escalating warnings -> blocks), you've continued the attacks. Personal attacks are not acceptable. "Do not make personal attacks anywhere in Wikipedia."- SummerPhD (talk) 13:55, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

The warnings did nothing and I am not an administrator, so I cannot block him. I would have blocked him if I could.

Unless you're willing to help me correct Lg16spears's behavior stop wasting your time and my time by posting here. Spidey104 15:09, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

The warnings are not the final step. After a final warning, such as the one in November, you take the issue to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. If the editor is being disruptive, that will address the issue. The alternatives are simply putting up with the problem (for however long it lasts) or repeatedly failing to reach an editor who won't respond, devolving into person attacks and ending up on the other side of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. - SummerPhD (talk) 16:51, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

That was helpful. Thank you.

I only knew about vandalism reporting and getting a specific page protected, and neither of those apply. His edits are poorly done, but in good faith so it is not vandalism. He does these edits on multiple pages and it's usually a one-and-done, so there would be no justification to protect a specific page nor would it do any good.

I apologize for my attacks and I will apologize to him. Now that I know there is a viable option I can avoid what had felt like was my last resort. Spidey104 13:59, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Crashsnake

I have been considering starting a thread about Crashsnake at WP:AN. What do you think about this? He has many warnings on his talk page, has been blocked a few times, and still never replies to any warnings and often keeps going right on what he was doing. I am uncomfortable with blocking him myself, but maybe some greater community input is needed. BOZ (talk) 20:44, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Something needs to be done about Crashsnake's behavior. He can make good contributions, but his lack of edit summary and some bad edits makes it hard to trust any of his edits. I had previously given up on getting him to improve his behavior because warnings and blocks didn't do anything. My edits on the 17th were because I recently learned about the WP:AN as a way to improve situations like this, and I thought if I gave him one last chance on the 17th I could then escalate it to the Administrators' board for some help. Start a thread and post a link here. I will give you support. Spidey104 13:40, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Will do. It will take a bit of time and research (nothing of the level of WP:RFC/U, but still) so I will probably have to do that tomorrow evening. BOZ (talk) 16:35, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I know you haven't edited since I started it, but in case you haven't seen it already, there is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Crashsnake. BOZ (talk) 16:37, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm surprised to see that he actually responded! Maybe this will actually work to get him to fix his behavior. I have already posted a comment and will monitor the discussion as it continues. Thank you for starting the discussion and thank you for providing me with the link. Spidey104 19:19, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Template:EP series of templates

I'm moving this discussion here as it is more appropriate than on that talk page. I'm quite sure that you had never seen it before as it is a fairly new parameter. I just wanted to make sure that you were aware of it moving forward (and there will likely be more new options added over time). You can keep up on the current options by visiting {{subst:EP}} and viewing the doc. Jackmcbarn, Mr. Stradivarius, Anomie, Redrose64 and myself have been putting a lot of work and time into streamlining the whole edit request system. There's even a new script in alpha development that you "may" want to check out if you plan on answering a lot of {{Edit semi-protected}} request and you can check out the details on User:Jackmcbarn/editProtectedHelper. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 04:10, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Those will be useful to have. Spidey104 00:31, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Stormlight Archive

Hey, I saw that you removed my recent edit about the pre-publication text. I thought it useful to delete those; after all, the information is available on the Way of Kings and Words of Radiance pages; if we will add all the pre-publication info to the series page it will be a huge info-dump. What I can do is this: adding a section that refers to each of the pre-publication info at the respective pages. What do you think? --J.A.R. Huygebaert (talk) 12:53, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I still stand by what I said in my edit summary: "That section should be shortened/summarized in this article, but not completely removed." That information should be in great detail in the articles for the individual books, but it should still be present in the article about the whole series -- albeit in a more condensed manner. Spidey104 01:14, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

I've been away for a little while, but it looks like you kept a good eye on The Stormlight Archive while I was away. Thank you for your edits on that. Spidey104 14:02, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

These days I only edit pages about Sanderson, so I'm glad your happy about it. I'm going to edit Words of Radiance after I finished the book (I'm reading it very slowly because I will have to wait two years before the next book comes out), so if your planning on doing some edits, remember that I will do the same. I will include the number of chapters and interludes in the introduction, like with The Way of Kings, the plot section will be created and probably information about bestselling etc too. --J.A.R. Huygebaert (talk) 16:21, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Those all sounds like perfect additions.

I'm actually waiting to read Words of Radiance, because I'm tight on money right now, I already own other books I want to read, there will be two years until the next book, and the price will come down before the next book arrives. So I will actually be avoiding the Words of Radiance article to keep from spoiling the story for myself. I might also have to start avoiding The Stormlight Archive article so I don't see any spoilers Spidey104 18:55, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, don't spoil anything for yourself - you wil regret it. I'm at page 340 and its crazy how much happens in this book. I'm seriously questioning how Sanderson is going to fill the rest of the books.--J.A.R. Huygebaert (talk) 19:43, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Johnny Horton

Was the move discussed anywhere? —BarrelProof (talk) 23:31, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

A discussion before a move is only required if it is controversial move. There are three pages that could be listed under "Johnny Horton" so it definitely should be a disambiguation page; no amount of discussion would change Wikipedia policy. Spidey104 17:10, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia policy only establishes that Johnny Horton should be a dab page if none of the candidate topics are the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the term. The mere existence of other candidate topics for the term is not sufficient to require that article to be a dab page. —BarrelProof (talk) 18:52, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I never heard of Johnny Horton until I found his article when looking for Griffin (Marvel Comics), so there can be disagreement about what the primary topic should be. I don't agree that the singer is the primary topic, but now that there is a Johnny Horton disambiguation page I'm happy and I won't try to change the article titles, but not having that disambiguation page already was wrong and what I did was right. Spidey104 19:17, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Re: third revert at Darkforce

Discussion pages serve a purpose, Spidey104. You are currently at your 3rd revert, and I am assuming good faith that you were unaware that you were, by pretty much any definition, edit-warring. I would urge you to try and follow the discussion part of BRD. Talk to you there, - Jack Sebastian (talk) 01:52, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Can the act and the get off your imaginary high-horse; you were edit-warring just as much as me. But if you want to be technical about it you were at two reverts (because both of yours are exactly the same) and I was only at one -- while my edit summaries may say revert three times you can check the actual edits (and to make things very easy: check the change in bytes) to see each one is a different edit. Furthermore, I already commented on that talk page before you posted to my talk page. Spidey104 03:39, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Spider-Man 1602

According to Nick Lowe, the Spider-Man killed by Morlun in Guardians of the Galaxy Free Comic Book Day Special Vol 1 was indeed the one from Marvel 1602. Citation: http://www.newsarama.com/21333-marvel-promises-some-wild-things-from-edge-of-spider-verse.html 154.20.96.102 (talk) 17:50, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

That's why you are supposed to include references when you add potentially challenged information. That reference is now included in the Alternative versions of Spider-Man article. Spidey104 13:30, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Discussion for Wolverine (character)

I am inviting you to take part in this discussion to determine if the page should be called Wolverine (character) or "Wolverine (comics)." --Rtkat3 (talk) 22:06, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

@Rtkat3:, sorry, but I have been busy lately and only come on Wikipedia every so often. It looks like the discussion was closed before I was able to contribute. Spidey104 20:37, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

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