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A heads up: I reverted some of your edits. Have a look and see what you think of it now. Happy editing. -Theanphibian ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

"autofocus rangefinder camera"

On this edit of yours: In what sense is this autofocus camera a rangefinder camera? -- Hoary 01:20, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I am not certain that I understand your question ; it is a rangefinder camera in the sense that it has a rangefinder and uses it to focus, manually or in AF. See [1] or [2] for instance. Rama 08:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I've quickly looked at both those links, although I didn't bother even to skimread the lengthy toing and froing after the main review in the former. The latter asserts that something like a rangefinder is used for autofocus, but says next to nothing about manual focusing. The former says There is no way for a G2 photographer to tell if something is in focus except to rely on the distance readout in the viewfinder on the top of the camera. It seems that the camera (which I don't recall ever looking into, and which I've certainly never used) has two (or more?) autofocusing systems, and that one of them uses a rangefinder. However, it also seems that the rangefinder is of no use whatever for manual focusing.

Forgive me if I've misunderstood, but I take all of this to mean that the camera does not use the rangefinder, and does not let the photographer use the rangefinder, to focus manually. Rather, it's a guess focus or autofocus camera (and by all accounts an excellent one), and the autofocus mechanism employs a rangefinder.

Perhaps it's just because I know jack about autofocus mechanisms, but I find it hard to believe that this (quasi) RF autofocusing system is unique to the G2. (The "Autofocus" article doesn't help me.) A unique implementation would likely be dodgy in some way: if it weren't, why didn't other companies follow where Kyocera (Zeiss?) had led? But in this camera it isn't dodgy, or anyway I don't remember having heard complaints about inaccuracy or sluggishness of focusing.

Meanwhile, the G2 has similar size and proportions to (straightforward) RF cameras. I really wonder if it isn't referred to as an RF camera because of the combination of (i) its employment of a (quasi-) rangefinder AND (ii) its external resemblance to what a (manual-focus) RF camera is expected to look like.

Is it really more of a rangefinder camera than are other "serious" ("prosumer") non-SLR autofocus cameras (e.g. the Fuji GA645)? (Not a rhetorical question; I really wonder.) -- Hoary 08:42, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I am not an expert either, nor have I had the chance to try the camera.

For what I see to understand, the Contax G uses a passive AF system in which the rangefinder is used ("rangefinder" in the sense of the binocular system): this would be something like the passive AF of a SLR,only that instead of maximising contrast at the AF point, the system tries to make the split images match (OK, reference needed here). I'd be of the opinion that this alone makes it a rangefinder camera since, well, there is a rangefinder .

Now, for the experience of using the camera, and what it's like on manual focus, I happen to know that commons:User:Ignis has a Contax G, maybe we should ask him if he can comment (and maybe provide more photographs, while we're at it; mine are dreadful).

Cheers ! Rama 08:51, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

First Aid Wikibook

You had suggested "unified style for special notes, like small notes, warning of a potentially lethal error for the patient, a dangerous error, danger to the rescuer, tips, etc ?" on here. And... yes. We do want that. If you're up to doing that, we can definitely use them. Also, the book has come long way since you last edited it (so far as I can tell), so if you want to help out, it should be significantly less frustrating now. Mike.lifeguard 16:48, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

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Free French definition

Thanks for your help and courtesy, it's nice to be put right without being put down. Following our exchange at Talk:French battleship Richelieu (1939), I've inserted a Definition section into Free French Forces. If you have time, please make sure that you're happy with it. My French is only suitable for restaurants and supermarché, not legalities, but I've included the reference that you pointed to. Further on, the "Free French" name is applied loosely to all French forces - I'm not sure whether to correct it or to accept the usage. I'll do corrections as I find them; I suppose that we should now use "France" and the tricoleur for all French military activity from August 1943, not "Free French" and the FF flag.

BTW, what's the "British spelling guerilla campaign"? Folks at 137 20:10, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

There are a number of subtilities. The "Free French" were not only an army, but were supposed to be the legal French government in exile, and as such harboured civil servants and civilian personel as well. The land forces of Allied France from 1943 on are commonly called "armée de la Libération" ("Army of the Liberation"), but I don't know how they said for the Navy. I might try to do some research on this.

For the ships, we could use the usual tricolour flag and state something like "France (Allies)", or "Allied France"...

The "British spelling guerilla campaign" is a humourous statement regarding British and American spelling differences; the point being that American spelling would tend to creep into articles because some Americans are not aware (or not mindfull) of the differences, more so than Britons and people from the Commonwealth. Rama 23:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Nemo

Hello. Sorry if I somehow offended you -It was me who added the subtitle "was Nemo a Frenchman" to this article. There's nothing wrong with the way you edited the article, but... remember that part when I wrote that Nemo's usage of the French language (as he prayed) was significant? You said:

"...lyrical and non-sensical part (the whole novel is in French obviously)"

In the novel, Verne stresses more then once that Nemo never speaks in French unless he is adressing Prof.Arronax or Ned Land. He uses when adressing his crew an unidentified (and possibly artificial) language. Then, in chap. 22; titled "The Last Words of Captain Nemo", we read:

...His chest was heaving, swelling with sobs. And I heard him murmur these words, the last of his to reach my ears:

"O almighty God! Enough! Enough!"

Now if the book had actually been Arronax's autobiography, that would be very significant; but as it is a novel it may be a simple slip of the tongue, (or a 'slip of the pen') on Verne's part. If there was ever an author who was careful with even the tiniest details that he put into his novels, it was Verne, but we cannot be sure.

What do you think? --Alperkaan 23:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello, sorry myself if I sounded harsh. I tend to think that titles of sections formulated in terms of questions, sentences or anything else than a flat nominal phrase are of bad encyclopedic style.

Regarding Nemo, I'm not so sure that you could say that Verne was always so careful, he does take some significant liberties with realism sometimes (for instance in From the Earth to the Moon, it's trivial that the initial acceleration would kill anything aboard the shell). This being said, we know that Nemo is an Indian prince educated in Europe. There is nothing extravagant in him speaking French, as a member of a highly educated class of the time. Rama 23:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

But do we really know that Nemo is an Indian? Sure enough, Verne made him an Indian prince of sorts, eventually, but his original intention was to make him a Pole.

I wondered whether Verne imagined Nemo as an Indian as he wrote '20000 leagues...' and turned that question into an obsession, for a few weeks. I wanted to know who Nemo really was supposed to be and I wanted to know it BAD. So I re-read the novel, examined it again and again, drew the probable course of the Nautilus on the world map; looked for hidden meanings under all those vague remarks and finally, I decided that Nemo had to be from France. (Which was a surprise, bu the way.)

Lots of details in the novel make sense when you read them with this hypothesis in mind. Those references to V.Hugo turn into criticisms of the way the Industrial Revolution was proceeding in general and of the regime of Napoleon the 3rd in particular. I checked the Web, saw that I was not alone in my belief. (http://jv.gilead.org.il/sfs/hiddentreasures.html)

Oh, and thanks for your attention! It often takes a couple of weeks to get an answer for my e-mails, etc.. (people ignore me, I suppose) so your instant answer was a pleasant surprise.--Alperkaan 00:01, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Ah, OK, I misunderstood your point.

It's an interesting theory, though my intuition would be that a character like Nemo would have to be from a remote place (from a French perspective), else it'd destroy the mistery surrounding him, which is one of his most interesting traits.

On another level, I'm afraid that we really cannot relay these theories on Wikipedia, this goes against the Wikipedia:No original research policy. But it's nice to read these ideas of other sites. Rama 07:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Nemo Picture

Hi Rama,

I'm a user from the German Wikipedia and I wanted to ask you to put the picture Image:Nemo-shah.jpg into the Commons, so that we are able to use it, too. Is it possible? Thank you very much. Yours Alexander Bock

I am afraid not: this image is not Free, and Commons accepts only Free images. I think that it is also the case of the German Wikipedia anyway. Rama 08:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

What a pity. But OK. Thanks. Alexander Bock

Cabinet

Then that must be explained. This is the English Wikipedia, and in English a "Cabinet" is a council of ministers headed by the President (as in the US) or the Prime Minister (as in the UK). The people in that list are not members of the Cabinet in the English definition of that word. Intelligent Mr Toad 06:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

You are free to start a Cabinet (French government) article, or request that it be started. Rama 07:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

No, if that list is to appear, then the use of the word "Cabinet" in this context must be explained. Intelligent Mr Toad 09:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

It should be explained by a link to a specific article. We're not going to copy-paste a template text over all articles regarding French politics. Rama 09:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Well it can't stand as it is, since it is very misleading for English readers. Intelligent Mr Toad 10:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Hum, my opinion of frenchman : Mr Toad is right. The word still appears in the article in both sense. E g : "Head of cabinet - Emmanuelle Mignon" (french) or "First Fillon Cabinet" (English). It is a problem. Why not "Head of staff" for Ms Mignon? (Je vous laisse traduire, je n'ai pas de compte en. Mon compte fr : Marceal) 82.239.112.224 22:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

The word should appear in at most one sense, as to avoid confusion. And should it appear, inserting the English usage in an article which has nothing to do with it is the last thing we want to do. Rama 23:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

French Barracuda class submarine

Je suis la personne qui a supprimé l'affichage de l'image du sous-marin de classe Barracuda. Ayant récemment fait un stage ingénieur au sein de DCNS Cherbourg, je sais personnellement que les sous-marins de la classe Barracuda ne ressemblent pas au schéma. Je ne peux pas mettre en ligne la vrai image du Barracuda dont je dispose car j'en ait pas les droits. Je pense qu'il faudrait trouver une image libre de droits.

Dans ce cas fais-en une ou donne des informations qui permettent d'en créer une correcte. Si l'image n'est pas couverte par le secret défense ou un accord de confidentialité, une solution serait de m'en faire parvenir une copie par mail pour que je voie le problème et que je mette à jour notre image. Rama 15:52, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Polydeuces

I am satisfied with simply crediting the team as a compromise, although I thought the fact there was some debate should be mentioned in the text. But if we can get this settled, put me down as 'team only'. --Patteroast 05:05, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Image deletion

Hi Rama, per your action here, please remember to remove image links from articles when you delete an image. It is courteous to other editors. Thanks --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 15:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Your sketches

I don't know whether you are aware of this, but your images in List of sex positions consistently are in the top viewed Wikipedia pages.[3] The page also is mentioned in Nine Cool Things You Didn’t Know You Could Do With Wikipedia. Your tasteful drawings help Wikipedia make the Internet not suck. Thanks! Keep up the good work. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 14:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Trying very hard not to make the obvious remark about the oral sex images... Darn, failed ! Rama 14:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

How do you do these sketches? They're tastefully pornographic, yet amazing... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris7He (talk • contribs) 17:26, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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Do not override user's preferences?

You used the message "Do not override user's preferences" when removing a size specifier on an image. To what are you referring, is it a specific guideline? There may be a more specific way to explain so others understand (doubly important since you're an admin.) --GargoyleMT 01:25, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

The size of thumbnail images is defined in the user's preferences. By specifying a size, you make it absolutely certain that the image will be too large for users with small screen resolution, and too small for those with large resolution. Image size should be constraint only in rare cases. Rama 07:43, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't aware that thumbnail size was a preference. With that in mind, your edit makes much more sense; I may have caught on quicker if the summary had mentioned thumbnails or the thumb parameter on the image. :) --GargoyleMT 13:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm trying to improve the edit summary with your comment in mind. Be certain that your input was much appreciated. Cheers ! Rama 14:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Please comment

This is a message for all regulars at the “apartheid” AfD series. I believe there may have been a breakthrough. Please share your thoughts here. Thanks. --Targeman 03:04, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I seize the opportunity to congratulate you on your behaviour in this affair. Whether or not the mess of the Israel-related articles can possibly be solved, I won't venture to say, but it is heartening to see people like you. Somehow there's still hope. Rama 08:35, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi Rama, I thought I was in agreement with your previous comments - did I misunderstand you? I'm only concerned because I thought that the breakthrough was in that development, though I admit I've been a bit behind in reading the discussion. Let me know, Tewfik^Talk 04:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Excuse me, I am not certain of what your exact concern is. Could you point to the precise point that confuses you ? In any case, should I have been unclear, I support Targeman's solution as expressed in here. Rama 06:30, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

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École Polytechnique massacre

Not a big deal, but what's your reasoning behind this edit? bobanny 02:39, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Forget that. I get it now. cheers, bobanny 06:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

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Did you know? was updated. On August 20, 2007, a fact from the article Heinz Barth, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Hi Rama. This article is really interesting, especially with the unbelievable hook. This was kindly nominated by Carbinieri. Do feel free to self nominate in future. Happy editing, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi !

Hello! I hope we will get the story clearer about Heinz Barth. As a sidenote, I just noticed your edit here and, coming from you, will not reverse it. However, you might want to consider closely what "right of asylum" is (without even speaking about the context of the period and general dirty actions made during this time). I am not sure it takes into account the moral, or even judicial "level" of a person, but only his right to be protected by another state. Right of asylum is readily offered to various dictators, and the fact that they were dictators doesn't stop them from being refugees once they are protected by living in another country, under the defense of another state. It is probably not only POV that dictated the president's choice of the term. I'll be interested in hearing your thoughts on the matter, cheers ! (PS: I don't know if you were aware of that, quite interesting although it doesn't changes, at the end of the day, much to the story...) Tazmaniacs 21:46, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, yes, I assume that you could say that Eichman was a refugee, for instance ; using words which are technically topical but give a clear slant to the story is what POV is all about :p That's why I ironically labeled the people in question "convicted, violent criminal", which is another example of correct but one-sided view. A correct description would be "convicted, violent criminals tried in abstencia and not given the right to a new trial" (I should temper my habit of using this sort of irony, it irritates people more than it helps make them understand my point).

A politician's choice of terms stems from lots of things ; not only POV as we'd concieve it, but purposeful bias intended to disarm possible criticism. The joys of politics... Rama 09:31, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure you could say Eichman was a refugee, insofar that, AFAIK, he was not officially protected by right of asylum legislation of Argentina. FPMR member P. Ortiz is for instance a refugee — that you consider him a "terrorist" or a "freedom fighter" doesn't change anything to his judicial qualification. The legislation on rights of asylum has itself evolved a lot ([4]). This Franco-Italian story is probably a specific case as it concerns a political decision to grant asylum, which was not necessarily accompanied by judicial decisions. This is not new: see The propaganda of the deed period and exile to Britain. The topic at hand is of course controversial, the question being: where these people "persecuted" because of political activity (as they claim) or where they simply legitimely pursued and condemned by state authorities because of "common law" crimes. This brings the issue of "political prisoners": if you consider them as "political prisoners", you will surely admit them to be refugees. If you claim they were only "criminals", you will surely refuse them this status. This issue is close to terrorism issues: can you qualify such crimes as simply "common law" crimes without any relation to a political context. The very way that the state has to treat terrorism (through anti-terrorist legislation, extraordinary renditions, etc.) shows that the state is unwilling to treat them as simple common law prisoners. Henceforth, I would argue that the exceptional response of the state demonstrate the very political nature of such acts, and therefore their status as "political prisoners" and/or "refugees". The motives behind their acts may be right or left-wing, it wouldn't change much. Forgive me for debating here, I hope this doesn't disturbs you too much... Cheers! Tazmaniacs 15:45, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

No no, not disturbed.

In my view, anti-terror bla bla bla is not because of something fundamentally special with terrorism, but of the particularly violent acts that political ideology can induce people to do, even people who would normally be relatively harmless (like Chaïm Nissim procuring a rocket launcher from the KGB to shoot on nuclear reactors. This idiot is still proud of the deed, apparently, though his ideology is more into smoking pot than into playing little soldier).

In some countries, anti-terrorism is not separated from violent banditism : the same special police units are involved, the same special cases of the law apply. That you procure a gun and team up with murderers is the criteria ; that you'd do it for the "greater good" or that you're plain enough to recognise that it's just for your precious self is irrelevant.

In the case of the Italian terrorists, there are prerogatives that the president can choose to apply or not. That he'd do it to protest of the non-compliance of the Italian government or by some sympathy for the ideals of the terrorists is a matter of speculation, but the fact is that these people were convicted of violent crimes, in trials which have not been demonstrated to be unfair. There ought to be another trial in the presence of the accused, as a safeguard and to respect European standards, but this is not comparable to a fake trial in a dictatorship. Rama 16:00, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Date formats

Hi Rama, me again! Just to let you know that even though people say "the 27th of August" or "August the 27th", the article "the" is never written down in English, of any sort, unless you are recording something spoken verbatim. Dabbler 14:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

French Navy

Hi. I didn't notice History of the French Navy - it seems, that sizing down the historical part of French Navy will be reasonable, but I don't know, what exactly should be left (a section on aircraft carriers should be moved IMO, anyway). By operational modern battleships I meant Dunkerque class ;-) I know, that this list is not perfect, but I only wanted to give a quick view, what was about to be completed in short time (BTW, wasn't Richelieu officially completed in July?). Of course, the list might be changed. Pibwl ←« 23:41, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, then it makes much more sense indeed; we could mention the names of the ships to avoid confusion. Thanks and cheers ! Rama 07:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Rama, appreciate your advise on the Légion d'Honneur and the Ordre des Arts et des Lettres wiki page thank you very much. As for the modifying other users talk page is totally un-encourageble. Im seeing you are intrested on reverting back whatever sentence that i have put in my talk page. Im warning you to not do that again. Its a persons own freedom on what to put and what to delete and what to comment on his/her own talk page, you have no rights to modifying it. Again im advising you to not to re-revert again what ever i have edited. As an advise kindly stop watching my talk page. (You can do so by clicking the "Stop Watching" button. Thank you for your co-operation--killerserv 00:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no rights whatsoever on Wikipedia, only privileges. And a privilege that one does not have is call others "vandals" for no reason. Rama 07:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Perrot

Thanks, Rama. I get the impression that it was an automatic translation of some sort - along with many other Breton related articles. Paul B 15:44, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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Could you use Image:Replace this image.svg instead please as No free image (camera).svg isn't really meant to be part of any upload system. If you think there are a large number of camera related images needed a seperate channel could be set up for them.Genisock2 12:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I think that I just misunderstood the correct usage of the image. Thank you for the tip ! Rama 13:01, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Fromowner documentation although the camera image is currently rather poorly documented.Genisock2 13:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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re Anti-Sarko

Je pense que vous êtes d'accord avec moi sur le fait que la photo précédente donnait une image assez peu sérieuse des mouvements anti-sarko :
- canettes de bière faisant penser à des manifestants alcoolisés et peu crédibles
- mosaïques sur les visages qui ajoutent un sentiment de culpabilité/honte (c'est pour la bière, soit, mais ça décrédibilise quand même les manifestants)
- j'ajoute enfin qu'un manifestant au fond, qui pourtant ne boit pas, a lui aussi la mosaïque sur le visage

Concernant mon allusion à la "Wikipedia policy of neutrality", je me suis sûrement mal exprimé, étant donné mon niveau d'anglais très moyen... je voulais simplement dire que la photo précédente manquait d'objectivité, rien de plus !

Pour conclure, je pense que, si problème il y avait, celui-ci est maintenant résolu par le remplacement de la photo.

Od1n 14:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Je suis d'accord ur le fait que la photo précédente donnait une image assez peu sérieuse des "mouvements anti-sarko". Je ne suis pas d'accord, en revanche, avec le présupposé selon lequel il faut que Wikipédia donne une image "sérieuse" des "mouvements anti-sarko". D'où sortez-vous que ce sont des mouvements sérieux ? Ça, c'est du POV. Rama 15:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ne me faites pas dire ce que je n'ai pas dit ! Je n'ai jamais affirmé cela ! Relisez attentivement mon message précédent ! Au contraire, chacun pense ce qu'il veut, et nous sommes bien d'accord là-dessus !
Od1n 17:52, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

S'il n'y a pas de problème à ce que Wikipédia présente une image non sérieuse des "mouvements anti-sarko", puis-je, à titre de curiosité, savoir quel est le motif réel du remplacement de l'image ? Question subsidiaire : pourquoi n'avoir pas indiqué le motif réel d'entrée de jeu ? Rama 17:59, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Je précise que je ne soutiens pas particulièrement ces mouvements, contrairement à ce que vous deviez penser ! De plus, je suis bien conscient que l'ancienne photo ne visait pas à décrédibiliser les manifestants (les mosaïques n'ayant été ajoutées que pour des raisons de droit à l'image ; et les canettes de bières n'étant là que par le plus pur des fruits du hasard, il devait faire chaud ce jour-là). Cependant, en parcourant l'article comme je l'ai fait, l'ancienne photo attirait particulièrement l'attention, et renvoyait, malgré elle, de par sa simple composition, une image de désordre, de mouvement injustifié, infondé. Je répète que je ne prends pas position par rapport à ces mouvements. C'est pourquoi je considère judicieux de remplacer cette photo par une autre, que nous définirons "plus neutre". Notre objectif est commun : se contenter d'informer le lecteur, et faire en sorte que ses avis soient le moins possible influencés. Cela est particulièrement important dans un article sensible tel que celui-ci.

Od1n 18:29, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Là encore vous portez un jugement de valeur implicite sur ce qu'est la « vraie image » qui n'influencera pas le lecteur. Qu'est-ce qui nous prouve qu'une large majorité des membres des « mouvements anti-sarko » ne sont pas effectivement buveurs de bière ?

En revanche, sur un critère purement esthétique, il n'y a aucun doute que le remplacement de l'image, tel que vous l'avez opéré, constitue un progrès majeur. Rama 18:33, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio

Vous semblez avoir copié du texte depuis http://www.olympus-europa.com/consumer/dslr_16742.htm dans l'article Olympus E-510. Merci de ne pas faire ça. Stevage 23:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Je suppose que tu as un diff précis pour affirmer ça ? Rama 07:17, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Excuse moi, j'ai mal lu l'historique. C'etait en fait un utilisateur anon qui a fait le changement [5]. Desolé de t'avoir accusé. Stevage 04:52, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Pas de problème ; merci pour ta vigilance, c'est ça le plus important. Rama 07:34, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

War on Terrorism

"Do not override user's preferences for thumbnails unless really necessary"

? =_= Certes, mais certaines images cela rend vraiment mal. Puis-je en remettre quelque-unes au format 300 ou 250px ? Toutefois j'avoue que la nouvelle présentation est agréable pour certaines notamment celle de Guantanamo ;) Mrpouetpouet 20:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Les tailles des images sont déterminées par les préférences des utilisateurs. En forçant la taille à 300 pixels, tu es certain que les images apparaitront énormes sur les petits écrans, et trop petites sur les écrans haute définition.

À part des cas très spécifiques (infoboxes, cartes ou schémas), on ne devrait jamais forcer la taille des images. Rama 20:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

""Mouarf, mais alors pourquoi chez moi c'est tout petit 0_0. Enfin bref, merci de l'explication camarade wikipedian. Mrpouetpouet 20:21, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Probablement parce que tu as laissé tes préférences pour la taille des images à la valeur par défaut (200px, je crois). Tu peux cliquer sur Special:Preferences (en haut de ton interface), onglet "Files", pour changer ça. Rama 20:30, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

French Navy

In going through articles on French ships to tag them for WP:SHIPS and WP:MILHIST, I noticed that you have written many of them. I also noticed that many, many other articles are only the briefest of stubs—really nothing more than a name and a date. I'd like to improve these, or help improve them; are you aware of any sources in English? My French is deplorable, the French Navy website's 'view in English' function is not working, and it appears that someone has already plumbed the depths of fr.wikipedia for data. Any advice? Maralia 18:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Very brave of you !

Most of my sources are in French, unfortunately, but you can gather lots of hints from English sources about British ships which were involved in some way with the French ones.

In which period are you interested, by the way? This changes the deal quite a lot. Rama 20:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not so much interested in a specific era as I am disturbed that French ships aren't better represented here (although I guess I shouldn't be shocked, since fr.wikipedia seems not much better off). If you are still working actively on French ship articles, I'd be glad to 'polish' them for you as you create them, if that would enable you to spend less time on cleanup and more time translating/creating. Maralia 20:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

As a matter of fact, I noticed that the Italian Wikipedia has a long and rather good article on the La Fayette type (it's a Featured Article on it:); it doesn't blend so well in en: since some things have their own article (Stealth, the 100mm French naval gun, etc), but I've started translating parts of some interest, which could clearly use some polishing. If you're interested in having a try, it's at La Fayette class frigate.

If you're interested in articles from the French WP, you might want to start from their Projet Maritime and the Bistro du Port (the local and topical Village Pump). Don't be shy, at worse they can interact in English. The French Wikipedia is a bit uneven, so you might find good article on some ship (even though they still don't have an article on La Couronne, which is an outrage :p) Rama 20:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Cassiopea class

This article needs a rename to include the type of ship - however, the article says 'patrol boat' but the cat you added it to is 'corvette'. Should it be Cassiopea class patrol boat, or Cassiopea class corvette? Maralia 17:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I think that the Italians classify them as patrol boats, but that's not very clear. They're quite large for patrol boats, but the River class is even larger, so... Rama 22:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to go with patrol vessel, then. Maralia 01:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

sm565 -Vanished user behavior - Editing other's comments in the talk page

Update: after contacting several times the board they restored my comments in the homeopathy website but the original conmplain was edited by someone leaving only other's comments. Do you have any idea what I could do? It is totally inappropriate. I think. --Sm565 20:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

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I posted this complain in the board of incidents - it was really not resolved - (my comments have not restored in the talk page on homeopathy).

One administrator removed all my complains from the board and left only the replies to my comment. Is this allowed? IS it fair? Even If they regarded as solved why the remove my original complain?

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this is my original report. Dear Administrator This complain concerns Vanished user ‘s behavior in the talk page of Homeopathy. Vanished user has been rude to me and other users and recently hided my new suggestion for a change in encyclopedia sentence clearly because he has a different point of view.

If you read the short discussion we had here you don’t need my comments. [6] [7]

However, I will highlight some facts. I was arguing politely to change a sentence trying to modify the old one in an acceptable way from all the editors, to be more precise and to reflect a NPOV according to the wikipidia ’s policy.

I came up with a new suggestion and summarizing my old arguments and adding new data, I posted it.

Vanished user told me that I could not understand what a scientific consensus is. I replied that we could use exactly the words of one of his cited references and if he thinks that his cited references are inaccurate or POV. It was a rhetorical question of course and he immediately hided my comments arguing that I have repeated the same arguments a dozen times. After I informed him that I would report his unacceptable behavior I asked where exactly I have repeated them. He did not reply so far 10/7/2007 2:15:54 AM (New York time).

Some other users also complained about him.

Some days ago he blocked my account for trying to add a POV tag. Typically he was right since I did not follow the 3-edit rule. Other users who agree with him reverted the edits, which we had agreed upon in the talk page with the main editor of the article. Their behavior was totally uncivil and I tried to protest about it, maybe not so elegantly. No action was taken to prevent this behavior of the other users. I reported the evidence to Tim Vivkers describing all these. It is worth reading it to realize the situation. [8] Tim Vickers wrote him this message. [9]

Vanished user has a poor record moderating discussions with other users; as well here are some examples.

Our science of the very small gets into the subject of quantum chromodynamics, molecular theory is inadequate. Whig 09:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but that's complete bollocks and original research. Quantum mechanics, funnily enough, is defined by a series of mathematical equations that calculate probabilities. It doesn't just automatically justify whatever stupidity you want it to. Vanished user talk 16:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you asserting that the references given do not reject the efficacy of homeopathy, or that the authors (NIH, NHS, AMA) are not representative of the scientific community? --Art Carlson 09:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC) He's asserting that all criticism should be removed. Vanished user talk 16:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC) Adam you realize -of course- you might discredit yourself with this kind of statements.How will you argue that you views are objective and you are qualified to moderate a discussion misrepresenting the others people opinion? I wrote many times that mainstream critisim should be included and even extented………. Best wishes.--Sm565 18:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Another one: Please take this as my suggestion that you read the Organon of Medicine by Samuel Hahnemann in order to comment properly upon what it says. Let us make this a serious article, shall we? I'm still reading it myself. Whig 20:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC) I read big pieces of it. It is crap. So what?--Filll 22:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC) Thank you for your most insightful and encyclopedic commentary. Whig 22:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC) Adam_Cuerden deleted the above comment. I have restored it -- now twice. It is not a personal attack. Whig 19:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC

After he hided my comments he wrote:

There's no point continuing discussion until you can actually bring something new to the table, instead of shoving productive discussions off the talk page by repeating the same points over and over. Has someone put a message on a homeopathy forum canvassing people again? Vanished user talk 04:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC) You don't have to continue discussion if you don't want to. Whig 04:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

He also has a poor record in other controversial articles. G.Vithoulkas [10] collegues (a world wide respected homeopath ) accused him for having forged his views. [11] [12] I cannot assert that whatever they accume for it is true but to be blamed by a serious scientists is not the best sign and it does not warranty that Adam can moderate a discussion in a controversial subject effectivelly.

I don’t intend to attack personally anyone I m just stating the facts :

After tha last incident it is clear that this kind of behavior seriously contributes to a pathological and unproductive atmosphere and discredit wikipedia. Please restore my comments in the talk page.

Finally I would ask you to consider that a protected (under dispute) sign to be added in the article. There is a long dispute with serious arguments from both sides on the article which many editors refuse to accept. Whatever attempt to put undr dispute sign is reverted by some editors including Vanished user talk. It is fair to be there until a consesus is reached. I think it is the only fair option for a such controversial topic and it represents the reality. Lets be honnest and not hide it. Best whishes Thanks for your time.

Sm565

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FREMM ships for Greek Navy

Greece has not take any decision yet for the next frigate for the Greek Navy. so write down that Greece is an operator of FREMM class or has ordered the Ship is false. John ,Athens 10/10/2007.

why did you delete the information about the crisis in the french military ?

why did you delete this information? truth hurts maybe?