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Translation

Hi there. I'm sorry, but unless you persuade me otherwise, my inclination is going to be to roll back both WP:Translation and WP:Translate us.

It's a given that guidelines on English Wikipedia project pages govern only activities on English Wikipedia. WP:N doesn't cover the notability guidelines for Russian Wikipedia; WP:RS doesn't cover Japanese Wikipedia's position on what constitutes a reliable source; etc. WP:N and WP:RS don't end in sections telling us explicitly to follow the interlanguage links to find out the corresponding guidelines on other Wikipedias because it's both trivial and off-topic. The same reasoning holds for WP:Translation, which, in addition, starts right off with a box that makes it plain that that page is about translating into English for English Wikipedia. The section you added is gratuitous.

Then, with or without that section, I question your reasoning on WP:Translate us. What your text at WP:Translation says, fundamentally, is "This page doesn't cover translation where neither the source nor destination language is English; for those cases, look elsewhere." So, the language you added to WP:Translate us indicating that WP:Translation carries information on translating between languages of which neither is English is false information, at several levels:

  • WP:Translation is not the source of that information.
  • It explicitly says (in your section) that it isn't the source of that information.
  • It can't be the source of that information because English Wikipedia project pages are not the source of guidance for editing on any other Wikipedia.

So your addition to WP:Translate us is false and not helpful. Largoplazo (talk) 02:50, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

You're "sorry"? Spare me the platitudes. Translation is inherently an activity that affects more than just this Wikipedia, so your entire second paragraph is a red herring. Your allegations of falsehood are themselves false. My addition is accurate, valid and useful; made after encountering editors who, having worked on translations involving the English-language Wikipedia, wanted to then translate articles between two other languages. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:22, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Wikidata property

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2018).

 

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  Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC about the deletion of drafts closed with a consensus to change the wording of WP:NMFD. Specifically, a draft that has been repeatedly resubmitted and declined at AfC without any substantial improvement may be deleted at MfD if consensus determines that it is unlikely to ever meet the requirements for mainspace and it otherwise meets one of the reasons for deletion outlined in the deletion policy.
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  Technical news

  • Starting on July 9, the WMF Security team, Trust & Safety, and the broader technical community will be seeking input on an upcoming change that will restrict editing of site-wide JavaScript and CSS to a new technical administrators user group. Bureaucrats and stewards will be able to grant this right per a community-defined process. The intention is to reduce the number of accounts who can edit frontend code to those who actually need to, which in turn lessens the risk of malicious code being added that compromises the security and privacy of everyone who accesses Wikipedia. For more information, please review the FAQ.
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