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Single quote in CS1 |title

Can you give me an example so that I better understand why these edits are necessary?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 11:18, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk: Yeah - I ran into the issue with this edit, and fixed it with the subsequent one by using the html encoding I added to the table. Note that on the linked version of the page, reflist entry 4 shows an undesired space between the " and the initial ' of the title.

In my edit summary at Template:CSDoc I mistakenly identified the issue as producing a closing smartquote, but that was actually the result of me mis-seeing the character in a small font. It's just the extra spacing/broken up link that's the problem. Personman (talk) 12:55, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

That 'space' between the double quote and the single quote is supposed to be there. Module:Citation/CS1, the engine that underlies nearly all CS1 and CS2 citation templates, adds some CSS markup to the rendered title so that there is a gap between the two quote characters. In this aspect it is mimicking {{" '}} and associated templates.

I'm going to revert your changes to Template:Citation Style documentation/web. You should probably consider reverting yourself at Justin Hayward-Young.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:18, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk: Oh. I can agree that the spacing is desirable, but the fact that it breaks up the link underline seems really bad. I'll revert as you suggest, and I'm looking at the module's kern_quotes function to see if there might be a simple fix to propose. Personman (talk) 13:23, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Herman Wouk

I would have presumed that it remains factually and politically correct to write that Herman Wouk's wife gave birth to three sons, since that's what they were when she gave birth to them. Wouldn't it be most correct to state it that way and note afterwards that one of them (Nathaniel) transgendered into a woman now known as Iolanthe Woulff? Zozoulia (talk) 14:10, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

There are a number of issues with this. First and most importantly, don't deadname trans people. Second, while in this case Iolanthe is publicly out, her trans status is still completely irrelevant to the article about her father, at least as it currently stands. If an issue regarding her transition or status had a major impact on his life, or his reaction to it was a public event, then perhaps there would be some reason to mention it in the article, but for now there is simply no reason whatsoever to mention it. She is a woman; she is his daughter. Therefore, the list of his children should refer to her thusly. Third, and most trivially, "transgender" isn't a verb, and you most certainly can't "transgender into" anything. Personman (talk) 23:46, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

For the better part of Iolanthe's life she was his son. References to his two surviving sons are included in all of the biographical sources cited as references, as well as in the LA Times obituary for his wife (who died after the son became a woman). In addition, his bio on www.hermanwouk.com states that he has two sons, without mentioning that one of them has now become a woman. For these reasons it makes perfect sense to acknowledge the transition from male to female within the article. Readers would otherwise be confused. Regarding the evolving use of "transgender" into a verb, see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transgender 80.74.100.131 Zozoulia (talk) 08:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC) Zozoulia (talk) 15:01, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

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Please don’t edit war, but use the talk page instead. Your comma use was American, rather than British, you removed descriptions of quoted individuals (leaving readers confused as to who was being quoted), and the limerick stays (Wikipedia is not censored). - SchroCat (talk) 08:03, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

You need to trim that post down - I’m not going to waste time reading through that properly, particularly as you’re accusing me of ownership, having already accused me of bad faith. And you’re asking me to be have “a more collaborative spirit” at the same time as insulting me? I’m not going to bother replying to that. SchroCat (talk) 03:25, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

It's long because you reverted a large number of my edits. If there are any particular edits you'd like to offer justification for reverting, it should be quite easy to find the relevant paragraph and respond only to that one, without reading the rest. If you don't have the time to justify your reversions, perhaps don't make so many all at once in the future. Personman (talk) 03:32, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Take out the rubbish and leave the parts about the text. You’re trying to passively aggressively bait with some of your comments, insulting me while telling me to be collaborative. You’re not being collaborative with that approach at all, neither are you being collaborative by posting a Wikipedia:Wall of text and expecting other people to waste time going through parts that are not germane to the article. (You can leave in the threat to continue edit warring at the end - that looks great in dispute resolution and ANI, should it ever come to that.) - SchroCat (talk) 03:38, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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