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Administrators' newsletter – May 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).

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This Month in GLAM: April 2022

 




Headlines
  • Australia report: Growing the record of Australian Music
  • Belgium report: About African Pagnes and Belgian music
  • Brazil report: Brazil wins the first place in WLM 2021
  • France report: French GLAM meeting
  • Italy report: Work with GLAMs on Wikisourse and Wikimedia Commons
  • Mexico report: GLAM professionals add an image and become Wikipedians; Edificio Carolino Edit-a-thon
  • New Zealand report: People in Paleontology, Digikult, and copyright term extension for New Zealand
  • Nigeria report: Wikidata for Nigerian Novelist and Novel
  • Poland report: Wikiresidence in progress and workshop Evolution in GLAM in Poland
  • Serbia report: Important activities within the GLAM
  • Sweden report: Training at the National Archives of Sweden; Training at the Stockholm City Museum; Training at the Swedish National Museum of Science and Technology; Improved images from Swedish Performing Arts Agency
  • Switzerland report: Wikidata Coffee Breaks
  • UK report: Khalili Collections
  • Uruguay report: Wikimedistas de Uruguay report
  • USA report: WVU Libraries; Earth Day-2022-SWC; Wiki-Gap
  • AvoinGLAM report: Open Access vs NFT, GLAM School, Saami language, family trees
  • Content Partnerships Hub report: Enter our logo competition; IGO/INGO; Needs assessments research results; Wrapping up some ISA-things
  • WMF GLAM report: 1Lib1Ref, Image Description Week, Commons calls, and the Add an image events
  • Calendar: May's GLAM events
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Tech News: 2022-20

18:57, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2022-21

00:19, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Commons categories

(I was redirected here from User talk:Pi bot.) I have again reverted an edit by Pi bot (talk · contribs) at Violet Keene. Firstly, does the automated account not recognize the undo flag, and its implication that edits shouldn't be automatically repeated multiple times? Secondly, the bot repeatedly says, Changing locally defined but nonexistent Commons category (Category:1=photographs by Violet Keene) to the one from Wikidata (Category:Violet Keene), even though c:Category:photographs by Violet Keene is most-certainly an existant category at the Commons? Thirdly, if these two errors cannot be accounted for, can the bot be manually programmed to not keep making this one edit? Thanks, — Fourthords | =Λ= | 14:00, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

@Fourthords: The problem is that [8] does not exist. The simplest way to avoid this is to correct the link, which I've already done [9] (use the lcfirst=yes parameter if you really want to keep the lower-case p). In general, though, it's better to use the main link to commons:Category:Violet Keene, since that's where any media related to Violet that aren't her photographs will end up - and even though it's empty except for the subcategory at the moment, it provides a bit of encouragement to upload more materials, and it provides context via the infobox that the subcategory does not. This is also the Commons link that will appear in the sidebar, and it's good to be consistent. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:06, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
At Template:Commons category-inline/doc, it says that the |1= parameter is used for "the name of the Commons category this template will link to." In the previous version of the article, that usage was working correctly and linking to c:Category:photographs by Violet Keene (not c:Category:1=photographs by Violet Keene). Is the bot's error mistaking the template parameter for part of the category name? Can that be repaired? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 14:26, 23 May 2022 (UTC) P.S. You don't need to link to or name my userpage upon replying; indenting under my text is the default way to know you're replying to me.
A further thought: is the bot not 'aware' that the software is first-letter agnostic, and seeing the leading "photographs" as different from "Photographs"? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 14:29, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
@Fourthords: Look at the examples given, the template is rarely used with the '1=' parameter. The bot's been running since 2019, and this is the first time this issue has come up. I can modify the bot to cope with "1=" if needed, but it really seems like an edge case. The template itself doesn't work well with lower case first, without the lcfirst parameter, particularly with the comparison with Wikidata. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:30, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
the template is rarely used with the '1=' parameter. Yet if the template is supposed to work like that regardlessly, shouldn't the bot have been programmed based on the template, not rarity? I also didn't realize the letter case malfunction was the template's error; I'm sorry for assuming the bot was at fault there. I'll let those editors know, thanks! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 14:35, 23 May 2022 (UTC) P.S. You don't need to link to or name my userpage upon replying; indenting under my text is the default way to know you're replying to me.
It's something I have to add in to the code manually, since I'm working with the wikitext. I can do that. The template code was also from me, it would probably need a Lua editor to avoid that issue, and setting up the lcfirst parameter seemed the easiest way to go (it also works then if you don't manually define the link, in which case it uses the value from Wikidata directly). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:38, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
@Fourthords: bot code updated. With WP:THREAD, I know that's the default way, but I don't know if you're watching this page - hence the courtesy ping. If you reply to me on another page, please do the same, otherwise I might miss your message. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:05, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
That's good to know, thanks!
I don't know what "courtesy ping" means in this context. The only way I know if you reply is by watching your talk page, or if you left a note at mine. I think we're by-and-large done, now, but I tend to watch longer than strictly necessary just in case. (I also tend to accidentally watch pages more often that I think, probably by mishandling the keyboard while editing.) Thanks! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 13:11, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
@Fourthords: See Help:Notifications - you should get an alert in the top-right when you're pinged, it saves watching pages. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:35, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
No!! That became a real site feature‽ Somebody was testing something like that eons ago, and it was hellish: trying to make the English Wikipedia a damnable social network or some nonsense. I asked an administrator to disable it for me, since I couldn't get it to go away. I never ever would have guessed it would become an actual feature! What dreck! Seriously, thank you for that info, 100%.
Actually, as you are somebody who edits or makes enwp templates, maybe you can help? According to that page, even mentioning another user's page will bombard them with this crap, much less using the {{user}} template like I have for ages. Is it possible to not annoy the everloving piss out of my fellow editors, when I just want to link to their page? I can't fathom how many editors I've pissed off (for who knows how long) by putting a stick in their eyes all the damned time. Thanks, — Fourthords | =Λ= | 14:46, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
It works really well - I use it a lot. We need more tools like this, it's hardly making Wikipedia a social network (although TBH I think we could do with a bit more of that to help with community cohesiveness!). I really wouldn't worry about accidental notifications - every editor can turn off the notifications if they want (Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 15:31, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2022-22

20:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2022).

  Guideline and policy news

  Technical news

  • Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages. (T307341)
  • The IP Info feature has been deployed to all wikis as a Beta Feature. Any autoconfirmed user may enable the feature using the "IP info" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. Autoconfirmed users will be able to access basic information about an IP address that includes the country and connection method. Those with advanced privileges (admin, bureaucrat, checkuser) will have access to extra information that includes the Internet Service Provider and more specific location.

  Arbitration


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Tech News: 2022-23

02:45, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

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A doubt

Hello Mike Peel! I am recently unblocked. I want to remove the contents in my user page. Is it allowed? Is it to be done by me or by an admin? In fact, i also want to delete my user page and my user talk page for a fresh start. Is it allowed? If so, how shall I request it procedurally? --Haoreima (talk) 17:58, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

@Haoreima: See Wikipedia:User_pages#Ownership_and_editing_of_user_pages and, if needed, Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#G7._Author_requests_deletion. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:02, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
So, is {{Db-g7}} applicable for both user page and user talk page? --Haoreima (talk) 18:07, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Probably better to blank those, if you really need to, rather than deleting them. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:21, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: May 2022

 




Headlines
  • Albania report: Summer of Wikivoyage 2022
  • Argentina report: Face-to-face and virtual events on May
  • Australia report: Over 1000 references added in Australia and Aotearoa New Zealand for #1Lib1Ref
  • Belgium report: New Wikidata Property
  • Brazil report: Wiki Loves Espírito Santo is a sucess
  • Estonia report: From university to library
  • Finland report: Photowalks in Southern Finland, spring 2022
  • France report: International Museum Day 2022
  • India report: Digitization of Tibetan Buddhist canons, The International Museum Day 2022 Wikidata Competition
  • Italy report: May in and for museums
  • Kosovo report: Cooperation with the National Gallery of Kosova and Summer of Wikivoyage 2022
  • Malaysia report: WikiGap Malaysia 2022 @ Kuala Lumpur Library
  • New Zealand report: Pacific Arts Aotearoa Wikiproject, Auckland Museum's Exploratory Study and Report back on #1Lib1Ref
  • Poland report: Wikipedian in residence in the National Museum in Cracow; Training at the Wawel Royal Castle National Art Collection; How can we make GLAM’s digital resources more reusable in education?; The International Museum Day 2022 Wikidata Competition
  • Serbia report: New GLAM brochure and Wikilive 2022
  • Sweden report: Rembrandt and others – drawings from the Nationalmuseum in Stockholm; Stockholm Museum of Women’s History; The map book of Heinrich Thome; Sörmland Museum; Wikidata competition – International Museum Day 2022
  • Switzerland report: Diversity in GLAM Program
  • UK report: Khalili Collections
  • Uruguay report: Wikimedistas de Uruguay report: 1bib1ref, Museum of Natural History, and more!
  • USA report: Hackathons and Edit-a-thons
  • Content Partnerships Hub report: International Energy Agency share their knowledge and graphics on Wikipedia
  • Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons report: Uploading files to Wikimedia Commons with OpenRefine: looking for test uploads!
  • WMF GLAM report: Results from 1Lib1Ref May 2022
  • Calendar: June's GLAM events
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