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Moldova-related articles

Hey Maxim,

The anon who I just reverted is the banned user Bonaparte. Please let me know if this happens again. BTW, instead of adding tags, you should probably add sources for your claims. Cheers. —Khoikhoi 19:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:Moldova

Maxim, I keep promising myself I'll get to the articles on Moldova anddo some work to improve content over there. hoowever, as it is,I only take a marginal interest in them. I agree to the spirit of your edits, but I could not agree with their initial form (it erased info instead of ballancing it, and in the process introduced a rather obscure reference to an unfamiliar process - it sounded like it had borrowed a passage without claryifing its basis). That said, I can agree to the use of the book as a source (do, however, indicate that you are referencing from it), I cannot agree with it taking the spotlight in the article (it would be rude toward other contribution - which, as it stands, have for most been checked and approved by Russian contributors as well -, and it would be POV - as balanced as the book is). I also think that the debate about Moldovans belongs mainly on the Moldovans page (the page on Moldova already goes into way too much detail for a succint article, and all pages connected to it are either redundant or unused). Lastly, my personal view is that Moldovan/Romanian prejudice against Russians/Ukrainians is a secondary topic at best: if arguably present, it was mostly ineffectual (it may be the stuff of essays on semiotics and national identity, but wikipedia is not an essay); having said that, I do agree that the Moldova article tends to obsees with some issues that are to be nuanced (if you have figures to verify claims, do use them - but rember, please, that not all detail is relevant to the Moldova page, and that all detail needs to go first on the pages dealing with specific topics). Thank you. Dahn 02:52, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

The Bat! page

There is a page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bat%21 which was written not by me, I did only add a sentence "Version 3.0 introduced..." and a few sentences to the paragraph about "Forged headers". However, 216.111.97.126 expressed an opition in the discusstion page "Sounds a little bit too much like marketing material from the makers of the software". Do you agree with 216.111.97.126? If yes, how can we edit this page to not look like a marketing?

A good way to combat advertising is to use references from reliable sources. Right now, the article says things like, "It is well respected within the computer industry, and has won a number of awards" but it doesn't say who respects it (or gives any evidence that this is true), nor does it say what awards those are. Using phrases like "some say" and "it is believed" are considered weasel words; that is, a phrase that gives the appearance of a neutral point of view without giving sources for these opinions (or avoiding facts altogether). You can read the article on weasel words to give you an idea on how to improve this, and you can include references from outside sources that address the benefits and disadvantages to this e-mail client. However, it is my opinion that the article does not really read like an advertisement--but it doesn't conform to NPOV, either. -- Merope ^Talk 13:14, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Moldova&King

Maxim, let me state again that, at the moment, I don't have much interest in Moldovan topics. I have done a lot to prevent Romanian nationalist POV from slipping into the Moldovans page, and am getting quite tired of visiting the matter every single time. That is to say that I will revert all edits I find to be wrong or questionable, from either side, and allow all edits which increase both text quality (which is lacking) and clarity, without (and I agree 1000% with you here) aiming to maintain the current redundancy and over-detailing. I have specified before that the history section on the Moldova page be made smaller and the "History of Moldova" one larger (the latter's early section still expects to have idiocy removed from it, and I promised I'll help with that in the future, according to the guidlines wherby it shoul contain the history of those parts that are now Moldova inside Moldavia and Romania, instead of repeating info and proferating crap; the last section seems good to me, and I understand it was reviwed by some good-faith Russian users as well).

Secondly, I want to caution you again that using inherently didactic concepts such as nation-building in the text should be avoided. Try and rephrase your points to make them self-evident, and please cite the source each time you use it (notes etc.).

A quick glance over what I find to be wrong in the points you make:

1. The use of Cyrillic in the Principality of Moldavia has no link to the use of Cyrillic in Bessarabia. The alphabet in use in the former was the Romanian Cyrillic alphabet, and I am getting quite jaded that I still hear this argument. Cyrillic in Bessarabia was Russian Cyrillic, and was associated with the primordial use of Russian (the constantly decreasing officially-sanctioned use of Romanian/Moldovan was based on a transliteration into Russian - in the same way the "ch" sound in Russian words is easily rendered as "ci" in Romanian; that is to say, it was not traditional at all). The "Moldovan alphabet" was a third version: Stalin bbasically took his version of what was, again, transliteration (especially since, by then, Romanian was generally written in Latin script), and called it "an alphabet"; in itself, it is not connected to what came before or after (let us not forget that, during the period, it was generally expected that the Soviet Union itself was to adopt the Latin alphabet...). The use of that alphabet in Transnistria followed Stalin's directives: in fact, Transnistria's history is connected to the rest of Moldova only because of Stalin's experiment (we can agree that it had not ever been part of the same region until Stalin proclaimed to be part of Moldavia). I do believe that mention of the Moldovan language and alphabet needs to be made inside the article as well, and I do not agree with your point here.

2. Given the special policies Stalin had in respect to Romania and Romanians, given the inventions in respect to Moldovanism advocated by Stalin, and given the inclusion in the repressions of thousands of commoners (mirrored in Bukovina), it is almost universal agreement of historians that social repression was doubled by national repression. At least mention of that needs to be made (and, as I am currently reading it, it seems to give only minimal detail). What we ought to add in the future is mention of the mass murder of Jews in Bessarabia and Transnistria.

3.That point is subjective, I wager. One would have to go into detail to match nationalist experiments other than the Moldovenism controversy and the killing of Jews. If you wer, however, referring to stuff such as building projects and institutional measures, I guess we shoul add more, but not too much, detail for each administration.

About my removal of your edits, Maxim: you forget that you could have edited sections without removing them as well. As I have said, I only give the minimum attention to the article; I agree that much of it is stylistic, careless, and redundant (note, for example, the sickening overlinking, especially of the words such as "Romanian" and "Moldovan", in blatant diregard for the Manula of Style). It needs a radical change, and I have other things to do (for which I have more expertise). Please edit with more care, without relying on one source over other, without introducing novel and obscure concepts, and without fitting here detail that belongs elsewhere, and you will have my full support. What I want to suggest is that you approach User:Illythr, another Russian-Moldovan user, and convene on what you dislike in the article (he has reviewed it once before, and I respect and trust his NPOV). He and I agreed a while back that Moldova and related articles need more work. Personally, I have a format in my head that I want to propose, but I'd rather not deal with it now. Dahn 19:45, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Maxim: 1. there is no connection between Romanian Cyrillic (used all over Romania, and a Serbo-Bulgarian borrowing, one obviously different from both old and new Russian spellings) and Moldovan Cyrillic. Stalin reformed something that was not in use, and the reform actually created an instrument that is ill-adjusted for writing Romanian (or, if you will, "Moldovan"). An oblique mention of "Cyrillic having been in use" would sanction a POV: truth is that, ever since Czarist times, Bessarabia was not allowed an internal development of Romanian-Moldovan script; by the time Stalin took over, Cyrillic was, obviously, not used in Bessarabia - his invention was used in Transnistria (even there, with the promise that the entire Soviet Union was to switch to Latin!) and imposed on Bessarabia (as were notion that Romanian and Moldovan were separate languages). 2. I rank those alleged persecutions as high as I rank the pesky allegation by Romanians that people in Moldova were opressed into declaring themselves Moldovan. Both are bogus, and rely on oversimplification. In any case, it would be the ultimate exaggeration to compare between such allegations and the Gulag mass-murder. Dahn 10:47, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. Allow me again stress that I think the page needs to be balanced, and that I do welcome your edits - as long as they do not hurt the content that is not redundant (oh, feel free to remove and rephrase redundant and problematic sentences). Your edit replaced text with a comment on information that readers did not necessarily have, I'd rather have the information, and I believe that the current text can and should be synthesised. In the process, you could make mention of the reverse in situation using while a more neutral voice than the one you had on my talk page (no unbiased source could actually vouch that people suffered significantly from this phenomenon - it was, at the same time, misinterpreted, ill-enforced, and short-lived; I am not sure how much of that is exaggeration - but some has to be, as the incidents you mention appear vague and interpretable). A while back, Illythr has made objections to the page as well, citing very similar reasons; he has not, however, implicated the same arguments necessarily, and his edits have not covered the incidents you mention. I don't think,however,that Illythr is completely satisfied with the article at hand (neither am I, and for the same reasons of lack in consistency, for reasons of variations in tone, and for reasons of Romanian POV surfacing at points). I suggest again that you discuss your planned changes with him as well. Cheers. Dahn 03:01, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply

Privet, Maxim! I read though the article, and I noticed that ther is at least one weasel word left. It's the part here, where it says:

Some say its user interface is not very intuitive, but this may be overcome by the high level of available customization

What I want to know is, who specifically says this. For example, if it's a man called Gleb Kravetsky, say something like this:

Some critics, namely Gleb Kravetsky, claim that its user interface is not very intuitive, , but this may be overcome by the high level of available customization

Also, this needs a source as well. Which internet service providers, sites and organisations claim this?

Ciao. —Khoikhoi 22:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

You changes look fine to me. In regards to the second part, I noticed the entire "Forged headers" was directly copied from this website. You can't do that, Maxim. :-) Please review Wikipedia:Copyrights for more information. What I suggest is that you either email the website for permission or re-write the paragraphs in your own words. Regards. —Khoikhoi 00:45, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see this edit, right? Well, if you have permission then there's no problem. I've re-added it + a note of permission. —Khoikhoi 10:09, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

You can remove the {{fact}} tag by replacing it with a source. Since I've already found which one it is (SilverStones.com), I've removed the tag. :-) —Khoikhoi 10:14, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Comparison of e-mail clients

"The Bat! and can import certificates (from PKCS#12/PFX format) which were created outside The Bat!" Maxim please try to create S/MIME certificate on token in browser (thawte, Globaltrust, certum) and tehen try to add this certificate to account in TB. Good Luck! Please after change description on Comparsion page ;) I wrote to RITs and want description why internal S/MIME not support using certificates created outside TB - without answer. When you want to create certificate for account on token and use this certificate you must use MS CryptoAPI - internal implementation its bugge here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sebastian Murawski (talk • contribs) 16:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

The Bat!

Perhaps. Why don't you try asking Mackley if he agrees to multi-license the text under the GNU Free Documentation License? Khoikhoi 11:03, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

NPOV

From your edits in FWD and RWD article, I see that you are not neutral. I welcome the help of other wikipedians in conflict resolution. Or see Wikipedia:Assume good faith. -- Liftarn 12:16, 1 February 2007‎ (UTC)

Individual handbrakes

The vehicle is a dune buggy built on a '69 VW chassis. The individual handbrakes are definitely aftermaket, but they look like they were part of a kit designed for that. This is a street-use buggy (at least it was by the time I got it), so I'm sure it's meant for handling. Although I imagine it would be an effective substitute for a locking differential. --Sable232 05:50, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

FWD and RWD

Hey Maxim. Unfortunately, I think I'm too busy right now to get involved in another dispute. If things aren't working out, you could always try starting a request for mediation. Could you please explain briefly what this dispute is about? Khoikhoi 10:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I definitely think that in order for this to be resolved, you might have to seek mediation. However, as I said, I cannot do it myself. Another thing you could do is add a question at Wikipedia talk:Reliable sources, asking if your sources are reliable or not. Khoikhoi 22:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Past Leaders

I've put down a list of heads of state on the president of transnistria page. Would you say its accurate? im not sure of the early constitution and im getting conflicting reports over who lead the supreme soviet.. how does this sound? i think there is an error:

1 Different sources list him as "Provisional" Chairman of Supreme Soviet and Igor Smirnov as Chairman at same time. 2 Was imprisioned from August 29, 1991 until October 1, 1991. Andrey Panteleyevich Manoylov was acting Chairman of Supreme Soviet.

-- Vital Component 00:18, 17 March 2007‎ (UTC)

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Rutin

On my talk page, you said: "The information is from articles published in respected peer-reviewed scientific journals, and there is a scientific consensus of at least two different groups of authors. Maybe we leave this information, providing that we have emphasized that these studies are in vitro? This in vitro information is better than nothing. What do you think?" - Maxim Masiutin (talk) 15:33, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

I feel this is too preliminary and too speculative to mention per WP:PRIMARY and WP:MEDANIMAL, i.e., it is likely non-replicable information and irrelevant to the in vivo or human condition. It is unencyclopedic to mention such content; see here. You can take it up for discussion on the article talk page to gain consensus, if you wish, WP:CON, or respond here. Zefr (talk) 15:40, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Zefr, thank you for the link to the “Primary scientific literature is exceptionally unreliable in biology”. It gives one of the following reasons: “Only egregiously bad papers are actually retracted; there are loads and loads of papers that draw conclusions that turned out not to be true, but that remain in the literature. People who are not experts in the field have no way of knowing which research papers have been left in the dust by the scientific community. These papers are not retracted, nor are they labelled in any way. They just sit there, ignored.” However, the articles I have given as a source are most recent, and the consensus is emerging in the other sources that Rutin is somehow involved in P450 (CYPs) enzyme metabolism. May I ask a third opinion? - Maxim Masiutin (talk) 15:49, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Can we talk at Talk:Rutin#Metabolism_section? -Maxim Masiutin (talk) 15:53, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Niacin

It's oral, and I will make that clear, with ref. Given that the normal administrative routes for both vitamin and prescription are oral, in my opinion mentioning injected not needed. As you know, this article is in the midst of a Good Article review, so I will continue to edit it, and when doing so, explain what I am doing by responding to the GA requests. But I have no problem with you also improving the article. David notMD (talk) 20:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

And thanks for touching up the references on the articles I brought to GA in the past. David notMD (talk) 20:36, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for information outside the U.S. I will look at the article again. I may need help finding a reference about intravenous. I did find one small clinical trial with iv infusion of 285 mg. PMID = 22923472. David notMD (talk) 00:28, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

CYP4F2

First impressions are that the Lead is too short, and there is over-referencing throughout. Factual statements can be supported by 1-3 good refs. I have doubts about the Inducers and inhibitors section, as appears to be in vitro, animal and perhaps case study referenced. David notMD (talk)

Perhaps the I and I section could be renamed "Research"? Also, there is a mysterious sentence earlier: "The enzyme pays an important role in vitamin metabolism by chain shortening." David notMD (talk) 09:46, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Even within "Research", try to avoid having predictions about how this could affect human health if the references are in vitro, animal, human case study or small human trials. There are a number of editors who live by WP:MEDRS, and for them, all other evidence is for naught. In a similar vein, when the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and Federal Trade Commission (FTC) consider health claims, only placebo-controlled human trials matter. If health claims are being made, the FDA says "Stop." If health claims are being made that cannot be supported by human trial research, the FTC says "Stop, and give us all your money." David notMD (talk) 16:15, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! I have edited some text to remove what seems to be a "health claim". -- Maxim Masiutin (talk) 16:23, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Intestinal bacteria and vitamins

There is some interesting science on this topic, briefly described at Vitamin B12. Foregut fermenters (ruminants) benefit from bacterial synthesis, as do hindgut fermenters that consume their own feces. This link http://gorillaprotein.com/2010/01/07/where-do-gorillas-get-their-vitamin-b12/ states that gorillas - thought of as vegans - consume termites, and at times, their own feces. You make a good point about understanding if bacterial synthesis of vitamins has a bioavailability problem. David notMD (talk) 11:50, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

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