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So I've radically trimmed down the stuff you added to ROKS Cheonan sinking for two reasons:
I wasn't real happy with most of the sources; a bunch was ultimately from Wayne Madsen, who I don't trust as a reliable source. I chose what I thought was the most reliable and NPOV of the sources, and left it in as a reference for what I left in
The amount of stuff added, in my opinion, weighted the article too far towards the Chinese claims, which led to the entire thing ending up in violation of NPOV.
I trimmed it down to what I thought were the most important points, and moved the resulting paragraph into the "speculation on cause" section, as I thought it fit best there. Please don't hesitate to ask at either my talk page or the article's if you have any questions. Cheers, C628 (talk) 17:30, 5 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Given that you've trimmed it down to a very small paragraph, I'm not sure it qualifies as a NPOV. I would think for an article to qualify as a NPOV, both sides should be able to express the full content of their "evidence". In the end, no matter how many sources there are, they all will end up with the root source that is the intelligence leak from the Chinese Navy. I had provided 3 sources pointing to this leak. Have a look at the article, the vast majority says the N.Koreans did it, with a tiny paragraph saying otherwise. How neutral does it look to you? There are a lot of people in South Korea who don't believe the official story. There is a reason for this, one of them is possibly the Chinese version. I would urge that you expand it further if not the whole lot! -- LogicDictates (talk) 09:56, 6 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Thing is, though, at least two of those sources you provided ultimately came from a distinctly NPOV and unreliable source, Wayne Madsen. Both the Online Journal and Children of Cyprus articles credit him for the writing, and I personally don't trust him to be either reliable or NPOV, and when there's articles that don't have him as the source, I'd much rather use them, and that's what I did. I'd disagree with your assessment that "the vast majority says the N. Koreans did it;" there's not a ton on the results of the investigation there, and I think since it's the generally accepted cause of the sinking, it makes sense that there'd be more on that; so far, the Chinese claims are more of a fringe theory. I'll try to get another paragraph into it, but not more then that, and I'll also make a note about it at the talk page; there'll be more eyes there, I think. Cheers, C628 (talk) 12:20, 6 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Actually, I have to leave soon, so I won't have time to write the stuff in the article, but I will make a quick note at the talk page so more people can see it. Cheers, C628 (talk) 12:30, 6 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
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