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Theres still a racist problem from contributors either practicing erasure or using unsubstantiated sources & claims to support racist agendas. Wikipedia has no function to mediate this problem. I’m either at the mercy of getting into an edit war or just letting it go. It ruins the credibility of wikipedia as an educational & informational platform. Lantye (talk) 22:02, 11 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Tell Equivamp to stop supporting racist narratives concerning black people Lantye (talk) 20:14, 13 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

What da hell are you talkin about bro --Equivamp - talk 00:50, 14 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Theres no verifiable proof that black slaves invented the term “white trash”. Its speculated. The original edit of that article did not originally have a source. Then months later you added that lil BS. Regardless, even the source & language used in your edit was wrong. Lantye (talk) 02:19, 14 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Okay, so now I can see that you're talking about the article White trash, but I'm still confused as to what you're talking about. What did I add, months after what? My last edit to the article was July 1, 12 minutes after yours, to which I only added a quote from the source cited that you claim did not exist and reverted your removal. Perhaps it took you a month and a half to notice that your edit was reverted, but that has nothing to do with me. --Equivamp - talk 02:54, 14 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Theres no definitive source its speculation. Theres no FACT in it coming from African slaves. Thats not FACTUAL. The source you gave says “PROBABLY” but that is not a FACT. Thus I omitted it because that is the definition of “intellectual dishonesty” Lantye (talk) 19:13, 15 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia reports what the reliable sources say, and if the sources say that it probably originated from African American slaves, so too must we. --Equivamp - talk 02:47, 16 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Then don’t include an uncertain source AT ALL because its factually incorrect. Or you need to quote as it is, a speculation not an opinionated worded fact Lantye (talk) 22:41, 17 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

The source here clearly states; "Poor white trash" (often condensed to "po' white trash" or just "white trash") began to appear semiregularly in the 1830S, used first by African Americans to refer to nonslave-holding whites. It is stated as a fact. Please don't add further expressions making this questionable without any source. Thanks. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 11:33, 2 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Additionally, this edit here is not acceptable, and I see that you have already been warned about this type of behaviour. Please consider this a second warning. Personal attacks against other editors are not tolerated and will get you blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 11:38, 2 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

That is not a stated fact. But racist will support racism. If the source is based on speculation, so too you must omit it. This is why wikipedia isn’t a reliable web source. You spread misinformation. Lantye (talk) 19:13, 3 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

The dude made personal attacks towards me weeks ago & I’m the one thats wrong? Lantye (talk) 19:15, 3 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

The source is not an undeniable fact. Also has logistical errors. “African-American slave” is an oxymoron. THINK.

African-Americans are the politically correct term for black residents who are citizens of the United States. You cannot be a “slave” & be “African-American”. They weren’t even deemed human. Its disingenuous. If a source is sketchy. Omit entirely or explain the language of the source so that it can be unbiased. Overall you need to reevaluate this article. Lantye (talk) 19:19, 3 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

There's nothing sketchy about the sources. I don't recall making any personal attacks toward you. And you're still wrong about African American vs African slaves. Equivamp - talk 02:31, 4 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

I am not wrong. You’re just a stubborn bigot. African slaves were not American citizens. Therefore they cannot be “African-American slaves”. Makes 0 sense. This is simple logic. My ancestors weren’t even considered humans, we weren’t citizens, we were considered property. The term African-American didn’t exist in colloquial sense until the 20th century. Keywords: “colloquial sense”. Hence my correction. Its disingenuous & incentive. State the facts not your opinion.

But you can’t explain something thats simple & intelligible to racist white supremacist bigots. So I give up. Lantye (talk) 05:40, 4 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

If I get banned for calling out racism. I’ll be sure to contact Wikipedia corporate for you two condoning racist rhetoric. Equivamp & Escape Orbit. Lantye (talk) 05:42, 4 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

In fact, direct me to your superiors. This discussion is going nowhere.

If the article says “probably” but portrays it as a fact, thats means its not an undeniable fact. Thats logical sense.

Logical sense: African slaves were not citizens therefore they cannot be called “African-American slaves”. They were slaves that just so happened to be located in the United States. They were not American citizens. They had no rights, they weren’t even considered human, they were denied the right to be human because of entitled racist.

Theres discrepancies in the source, if you were doing any research paper you wouldn’t utilize bias rhetoric especially if its non-conclusive & clearly opinionated. Lantye (talk) 05:49, 4 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Did you just ask to speak to the manager of Wikipedia? --Equivamp - talk 16:43, 4 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Furthermore, as I stated before, if the term appeared in print in 1820 https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/origin-white-trash-class-still-issue-u-s

How can the source saying it arose because of African slaves in the 1830s even be applicable as the first use?????

Use some form of intellectual thought here. Lantye (talk) 05:52, 4 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

This is why I question the validity of the edits. This is why I question the use of certain sources. Especially if they are not conclusive or concrete. They are worded as speculation not as definite. Lantye (talk) 05:53, 4 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Are you two incapable of acknowledging the inaccuracies & questionable nature of the article or is it because of your racial bias you don’t wanna admit that your defending it because of your personal inclination? Lantye (talk) 05:55, 4 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

September 2021 edit

  Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on User talk:Lantye. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Equivamp - talk 16:39, 4 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

How do I contact your supervisor to report intimidation? Lantye (talk) 16:35, 5 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

This isn't a McDonald's, I don't have a manager you can speak to. WP:ANI would be the place to report if intimidation were going on, but I will be honest with you and say that you may not like what I suspect the outcome would be, based on your incivil behavior of personalizing a content dispute and repeatedly and without evidence characterizing those who disagree with you as bigots, racists, white supremacists, etc. But, ANI is there if you think I'm wrong. --Equivamp - talk 17:25, 5 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

I’m not the one not fully analyzing sources & context. You have a huge ego & you support racist revisionism. Again the claim contradicts other parts of the wiki page. Regardless this is wikipedia. No real academic or scholar uses this platform as a source but random racist have been using wikipedia as a source. Again theres context you’re removing by just copy & pasting. Yes you are wrong. I proved you were wrong. You’re so dumbfounded that you don’t realize “African-American slave” doesn’t even make logical sense. This is who wikipedia gives authority to. I really hope you’re not getting paid. If you are, you need to be fired. Lantye (talk) 08:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

And yes I am on record calling out you supporting racist & white supremacist rhetoric. I stand by it. I typed it. You can reread it, your family & friends can reread it. The President can read it. I’m calling out pseudo-intellectual dribble because it needs to be addressed. Lantye (talk) 08:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

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See Talk:Oppenheimer (film) edit

I've replied to your post at Talk:Oppenheimer (film). I did review the Web page. It does not even mention the film. Please review WP:NOR, WP:V, WP:NOT. And WP:RS too. Coolcaesar (talk) 21:38, 10 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

I see now. So you just went ahead and removed the historical accuracy section entirely despite this being a historical biopic where theres a section like this for almost every single biopic. Because the other historical inaccuracies also were using the same categorization & reasoning as mine.
Its very convenient that you didn’t remove the others, but you removed the one concerning a black man. I get it. And because Wikipedia doesn’t have a review board to truly challenge the decision my only choices are to engage an “edit war” with you where we constantly add & remove edits until the other gives up or I just let it go.
Racist bias still exist even on platforms that are meant to objective. Lantye (talk) 21:58, 11 November 2023 (UTC)Reply