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Administrators' newsletter – February 2022 edit
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2022).
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Guideline and policy news
- The Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines have been published for consideration. Voting to ratify this guideline is planned to take place 7 March to 21 March. Comments can be made on the talk page.
Technical news
- The user group
oversightwill be renamedsuppressin around 3 weeks. This will not affect the name shown to users and is simply a change in the technical name of the user group. The change is being made for technical reasons. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections. - The Reply Tool feature, which is a part of Discussion Tools, will be opt-out for everyone logged in or logged out starting 7 February 2022. Editors wishing to comment on this can do so in the relevant Village Pump discussion.
- The user group
Arbitration
- Community input is requested on several motions aimed at addressing discretionary sanctions that are no longer needed or overly broad.
- The Arbitration Committee has published a generalised comment regarding successful appeals of sanctions that it can review (such as checkuser blocks).
- A motion related to the Antisemitism in Poland case was passed following a declined case request.
Miscellaneous
- Voting in the 2022 Steward elections will begin on 07 February 2022, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2022, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- Voting in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey is open until 11 February 2022.
Saturday Feb 5: ONLINE Met Afrofuturist edit-a-thon (and monthlong campaign) edit
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- English Wikipedia recently set up a gadget for dark mode. You can enable it there, or request help from an interface administrator to set it up on your wiki (instructions and screenshot).
- Category counts are sometimes wrong. They will now be completely recounted at the beginning of every month. [1]
Problems
- A code-change last week to fix a bug with Live Preview may have caused problems with some local gadgets and user-scripts. Any code with skin-specific behaviour for
vectorshould be updated to also check forvector-2022. A code-snippet, global search, and example are available.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 February. It will be on all wikis from 10 February (calendar).
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21:14, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Wikimedia NYC: Strategic Planning Survey for our community edit
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Hi Wiki-Yorkers, We are reaching out as part of our community-building efforts at Wikimedia NYC. Our regional group is engaged in a strategic planning process to sharpen our strategy for the next three years, and we would like your input. Given your connection to us and your experience with Wikimedia NYC, I would be grateful if you would be willing to share some of your perspectives and insights as we think about our next chapter. Attached is an anonymous survey, which will remain active until February 28. Responses will go directly to Barretto Consulting and the Wikimedia NYC board will receive responses in aggregate and to identify cross-cutting themes. Please take some time to answer it and share your thoughts with us.
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Purging a category page with fewer than 5,000 members will now recount it completely. This will allow editors to fix incorrect counts when it is wrong. [2]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 February. It will be on all wikis from 17 February (calendar).
In the AbuseFilter extension, the rmspecials()function has been updated so that it does not remove the "space" character. Wikis are advised to wrap all the uses ofrmspecials()withrmwhitespace()wherever necessary to keep filters' behavior unchanged. You can use the search function on Special:AbuseFilter to locate its usage. [3]
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19:17, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Bach cantata edit
You didn't read the article. It's not Cantatas (Bach), so the analogy to Chopin's Etudes doesn't work. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) [[Cantatas (Bach)]] would have to be changed from a redirect to List of Bach cantatas to the desired title. Matters like that, which sometimes require deletions, have previously been sorted out by user-friendly administrators. Mathsci (talk) 17:49, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- only that the article we talk about is NOT about Bach's cantatas, but that seems not to matter - (sorry for shouting) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:54, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Isn't the article a general introduction to the cantatas of JSB, incorporating a list of cantatas by BWV numbers? Since introductory surveys like that already exist in WP:RSs (Dürr, Whittaker, Cantagrel, ...), that article only has to summarise those sources. In the case of Grove online and the entry for JSB, Section 13 is about "Cantatas" (excluding Oratorios and Passions) and is written by Christoph Wolff: it's long, detailed and an excellent source, but not used for the article, which is a shame. Mathsci (talk) 19:07, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
No, it isn't.The list is at Cantatas (Bach), which is fine. Bach cantata - and I said so in the RM - was meant to be a better link for one of those cantatas than cantata, which is a detour. It was written back in 2010, and I barely remember. Better sources would be lovely. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:59, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: I don't see what the difference is? It's not like there's a type of composition called "Bach cantata", which anyone can write, e.g. like a Fourier transform could be applied by any mathematician/engineer, not just Joseph Fourier himself. "Bach cantata" seems to mean nothing more than a cantata written by Bach. The only difference, it seems to me, is that there is a special term in German called Bachkantate, but I don't see why that should change the way we name the English article. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:13, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Repeating: we have two articles in both German and English, de:Bachkantate = Bach cantata, about the term, and de:Liste der Bachkantaten = List of Bach cantatas, listing them all. (In English, we have many more by now.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:59, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Because of linguistic differences, it is not a requirement that articles in different Wikipedias necessarily correspond one-to-one. For example, French Wikipedia doesn't even have an article on Lunch. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:11, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- I apologize for my first statement above. I didn't read the article recently, which was massively changed, including addition of a list, by Francis Schonken. I don't know what to do with two parallel lists, - help wanted. And I understand that you, Mathsci, can't help because of the interaction ban with FS. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- @King of Hearts:: your comments about "Cantatas (Bach)" have been very helpful. Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 00:05, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Because of linguistic differences, it is not a requirement that articles in different Wikipedias necessarily correspond one-to-one. For example, French Wikipedia doesn't even have an article on Lunch. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:11, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Repeating: we have two articles in both German and English, de:Bachkantate = Bach cantata, about the term, and de:Liste der Bachkantaten = List of Bach cantatas, listing them all. (In English, we have many more by now.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:59, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Isn't the article a general introduction to the cantatas of JSB, incorporating a list of cantatas by BWV numbers? Since introductory surveys like that already exist in WP:RSs (Dürr, Whittaker, Cantagrel, ...), that article only has to summarise those sources. In the case of Grove online and the entry for JSB, Section 13 is about "Cantatas" (excluding Oratorios and Passions) and is written by Christoph Wolff: it's long, detailed and an excellent source, but not used for the article, which is a shame. Mathsci (talk) 19:07, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
Discussion at WP:MCQ § Possible Flickrwashing edit
You are invited to join the discussion at WP:MCQ § Possible Flickrwashing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:35, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi King of Hearts. Would you mind taking a look at this? -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:35, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:55, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- File:15th AB LH officers.jpg and File:WOs & Sgts Mess 19th AD.jpg are also licensed as non-free and are being used in South Alberta Light Horse. The former is claimed to have been taken in 1925, and the latter in 195u
8. Perhaps the 1925 one is also {{PD-Canada}}? -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:00, 21 February 2022 (UTC)- Yes, any Canadian photos taken before January 1, 1946 can be transferred to Commons, no questions asked. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:05, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarying things. Would you mind taking a look at File:15th AB LH officers.jpg to check whether I converted the license correctly? The also appears to be an older version that most likely was deleted per WP:F5. Perhaps this is a better quality version that can now be restored since the file is no longer licensed as non-free content? -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:07, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Looks good. Yeah, looks like in a lot of cases it'll have to be carried out by an admin to ensure the highest-resolution image possible. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:22, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you again for taking care of this. I going to assume that the 1953 photograph needs to continue to be treated as non-free for Wikipedia purposes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:49, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hmm, I'm actually not sure how to deal with expired Crown Copyright photos from Canada. If this photo is Crown Copyright, then it would be PD in Canada, but not before the URAA restoration date in order to be PD in the US. However, on c:Template:PD-UKGov it is indicated that "HMSO has declared that the expiry of Crown Copyrights applies worldwide", though it is unclear whether this applies just to UK works or works from the entire Commonwealth. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:05, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you again for taking care of this. I going to assume that the 1953 photograph needs to continue to be treated as non-free for Wikipedia purposes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:49, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Looks good. Yeah, looks like in a lot of cases it'll have to be carried out by an admin to ensure the highest-resolution image possible. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:22, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarying things. Would you mind taking a look at File:15th AB LH officers.jpg to check whether I converted the license correctly? The also appears to be an older version that most likely was deleted per WP:F5. Perhaps this is a better quality version that can now be restored since the file is no longer licensed as non-free content? -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:07, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, any Canadian photos taken before January 1, 1946 can be transferred to Commons, no questions asked. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:05, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Special:Nuke will now provide the standard deletion reasons (editable at MediaWiki:Deletereason-dropdown) to use when mass-deleting pages. This was a request in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. [4]
- At Wikipedias, all new accounts now get the Growth features by default when creating an account. Communities are encouraged to update their help resources. Previously, only 80% of new accounts would get the Growth features. A few Wikipedias remain unaffected by this change. [5]
- You can now prevent specific images that are used in a page from appearing in other locations, such as within PagePreviews or Search results. This is done with the markup
class=notpageimage. For example,[[File:Example.png|class=notpageimage]]. [6] - There has been a change to the HTML of Special:Contributions, Special:MergeHistory, and History pages, to support the grouping of changes by date in the mobile skin. While unlikely, this may affect gadgets and user scripts. A list of all the HTML changes is on Phabricator.
Events
- Community Wishlist Survey results have been published. The ranking of prioritized proposals is also available.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 February. It will be on all wikis from 24 February (calendar).
Future changes
- The software to play videos and audio files on pages will change soon on all wikis. The old player will be removed. Some audio players will become wider after this change. The new player has been a beta feature for over four years. [7][8]
- Toolforge's underlying operating system is being updated. If you maintain any tools there, there are two options for migrating your tools into the new system. There are details, deadlines, and instructions on Wikitech. [9]
- Administrators will soon have the option to delete/undelete the associated "talk" page when they are deleting a given page. An API endpoint with this option will also be available. This was a request from the 2021 Wishlist Survey.
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19:10, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Feb 23: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC edit
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The Signpost: 27 February 2022 edit
- From the team: Selection of a new Signpost Editor-in-Chief
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I see that this article is deleted, yet it would typically sit equally with the articles for the sister water authorities as shown at Category:Water_companies_of_Victoria_(Australia). What oversight has taken place to class one water authority less notable than another? $1.5 billion in assets you would think make it notable. What needs to happen here? 203.14.161.122 (talk) 03:13, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- See WP:OSE. Just because those other articles exist, doesn't mean that this article should. There are three possibilities here: 1) the other articles have received more coverage in reliable sources to meet the notability guideline; 2) the other articles are just as non-notable, it's just that nobody has bothered to nominate them for deletion yet; 3) coverage of Central Highlands Water has increased since 2019 enough that it now warrants an article. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:41, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Or 4) the decision to delete was ill-informed and short-sighted. Typically you will see that these the cities with the newspapers are those that have the water authorities written about them. They are not less notable, they are just less relevant to the big metropolitan newspapers so it is that typical big place bias, and reflected in the lack of available sources, not lacking in notability. Same function, same notability. 203.14.161.122 (talk) 20:32, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- And looking at Category:Water companies by country it all seems troublesome to target one article which is similar in scope and nature to many others. It seems a very narrow view by one person making a nomination is not seen in light of similar context, so may be the RfD process is not truly reflective of a consensus. 203.14.161.122 (talk) 20:52, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Or 4) the decision to delete was ill-informed and short-sighted. Typically you will see that these the cities with the newspapers are those that have the water authorities written about them. They are not less notable, they are just less relevant to the big metropolitan newspapers so it is that typical big place bias, and reflected in the lack of available sources, not lacking in notability. Same function, same notability. 203.14.161.122 (talk) 20:32, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- When searching for edits by change tags, e.g. in page history or user contributions, there is now a dropdown list of possible tags. This was a request in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. [10]
- Mentors using the Growth Mentor dashboard will now see newcomers assigned to them who have made at least one edit, up to 200 edits. Previously, all newcomers assigned to the mentor were visible on the dashboard, even ones without any edit or ones who made hundred of edits. Mentors can still change these values using the filters on their dashboard. Also, the last choice of filters will now be saved. [11][12]
- The user group
oversightwas renamedsuppress. This is for technical reasons. You may need to update any local references to the old name, e.g. gadgets, links to Special:Listusers, or uses of NUMBERINGROUP.
Problems
- The recent change to the HTML of tracking changes pages caused some problems for screenreaders. This is being fixed. [13]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 March. It will be on all wikis from 3 March (calendar).
Future changes
- Working with templates will become easier. Several improvements are planned for March 9 on most wikis and on March 16 on English Wikipedia. The improvements include: Bracket matching, syntax highlighting colors, finding and inserting templates, and related visual editor features.
- If you are a template developer or an interface administrator, and you are intentionally overriding or using the default CSS styles of user feedback boxes (the classes:
successbox, messagebox, errorbox, warningbox), please note that these classes and associated CSS will soon be removed from MediaWiki core. This is to prevent problems when the same class-names are also used on a wiki. Please let us know by commenting at phab:T300314 if you think you might be affected.
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22:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)