Joshua Larmon

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The Fog

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you are working on an article about the Mad Men episode "The Fog". At this time that article is not quite ready for the main article "space". Don't worry, the stuff you have written so far is not deleted... it's just been moved to the Draft space. You can find it at Draft:The Fog (Mad Men) (I also had to alter the title so it matched the formatting used in other Mad Men episode articles).

Since this is a class assignment, the work you and your partner have done so far will remain visible. For further help improving the article I would recommend reaching out to the friendly and experienced editors at Wikipedia Teahouse. You can also look at other articles about Mad Men episodes like Ladies Room (Mad Men) to get a better idea of the structure and tone. Happy editing! RA0808 ^talk_contribs 02:58, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi, i would like to move the article back to "mainspace" (i.e. probably at The Fog (Mad Men)) from its current location at Draft:The Fog (Mad Men). However I notice the article has no citations. Can you possibly please record any sources that you used? The simplest way would be to copy and adapt a simple reference <ref>Author, "Title", Date</ref>. --Doncram (talk) 18:58, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi again, got your message at my Talk page. I will "watchlist" here so will probably see replies here, but please do feel free to post at my Talk esp. if i seem not to notice something here. Sorry about the clunky messaging interface we have to work with here.

You posted: "Thank-you so much for your advice. My partner and I have basically finished with the page. We would love to publish, how do we do so? When we hit "publish" it just saves as a draft. Please advise. Our professor is giving us extra credit if we actually get our page published on the main space. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshua Larmon (talk • contribs) 18:50, 20 April 2018 (UTC)"

I see the draft article does have some references. I would strongly prefer for there to be a reference at the end of each paragraph, even if that is repeating, so it is clear that each paragraph is sourced and from where, rather than being made up stuff. It is much easier for everyone if you as the original writer indicate which is from what source.

OH i see, you were not using what are called "inline references", you just wrote them out at the end, e.g. one is "# Renata Aron, Nina. (January 17, 2018). "Restraints, hallucinations, and forgotten pain were the norm on midcentury maternity wards" Medium. Retrieved April 4, 2018.

To make an inline reference out of that, put <ref></ref> around it, and to allow it to be called again and again, name it:

<ref name="Renata Aron">Renata Aron, Nina. (January 17, 2018). [https://timeline.com/restraints-hallucinations-and-forgotten-pain-were-the-norm-on-midcentury-maternity-wards-46909123c4f7 "Restraints, hallucinations, and forgotten pain were the norm on midcentury maternity wards"] Medium. Retrieved April 4, 2018.</ref>

That will display at bottom of article as:

References

Please put that into the article at end of first sentence or paragraph where it was the source. Then, at end of other paragraphs, invoke that full reference without writing it out again by use of <ref name="Renata Aron"/> (note the use of "/" within that). Do similar for other two references.

About moving Draft:The Fog (Mad Men) to The Fog (Mad Men), i could move it for you, but would sort of want it to be better first. But you can technically move it yourself already: select dropdown menu under "more", select "move", then select "(Article)" rather than "Draft" from dropdown. Or maybe there is a restriction which prevents you from making the move, as a new editor, maybe you need more than 100 edits or something. --Doncram (talk) 19:14, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Citing sources gives detailed instructions about references, including about repeated citations, if what I suggest is not enuf.

The article seems pretty good to me, by the way. I like how you have included links to things like the equal pay law stuff.--Doncram (talk) 19:25, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

April 2018

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give The Fog (Mad Men) a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. I've taken care of it for you this time. Thanks! ansh666 18:38, 25 April 2018 (UTC)