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Churches

Courtesy notices

Proposed deletion of

• St. Mary's Church, Secunderabad
• Wesley Church, Clock Tower
• Holy Trinity Church, Bollarum

These articles have been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No indication of notability

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the articles' talk pages.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Burpelson AFB (talk) 18:35, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for of deletion of

• Holy Trinity Church, Bollarum (AfD discussion)
• Wesley Church, Clock Tower (AfD discussion)
• St. Mary's Church, Secunderabad (AfD discussion)

A discussion has begun about whether these articles, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

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You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Burpelson AFB (talk) 19:08, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of:

• Centenary Baptist Church, Secunderabad

A tag has been placed on these articles requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for organizations and companies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 19:22, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Writing about churches

There are good ways to write about churches, and bad ways. I suggest that you go and talk to Senra (talk · contribs) or Peter I. Vardy (talk · contribs) for advice in this area. Uncle G (talk) 02:05, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Offer of assistance

I am so sorry that the wikipedia correct but often seemingly aggressive deletion policy has identified the following churches for deletion

• St. Mary's Church, Secunderabad
• Wesley Church, Clock Tower
• Holy Trinity Church, Bollarum

I am here to help. In order to continue I need to work with you ...

1. ... to establish notability of each of these churches using reliable sources that use inline references. Whilst I accept that you may feel the church websites are reliable sources, others within wikipedia disagree. Consider broadening your sources a little. Church websites are not good secondary sources. Consider other sources such as newspaper articles, government websites and history books
2. ... to help you to consider what other users are doing with similar articles.

See the work I have done on

• St James' Church, Stretham and
• St George's Church, Little Thetford.

See also the stirling work Peter_I._Vardy (talk · contribs) is doing on churches such as

• Holy Trinity Church, Coverham,
• St John's Church, Throapham,
• St Oswald's Church, Kirk Sandall, and
• St Andrew's Church, Bywell

Do contact me on my talk page if you are interested. In the meantime ...

1. ... I have posted a notice on each of the deletion discussions for your three churches above
2. ... I advise we leave Centenary Baptist Church, Secunderabad for now as it has been deleted. Later, when we have resolved the other three above, we will request that the deleted article Centenary Baptist Church, Secunderabad be copied into your user-space and we can work on it then - perhaps in a week or so's time

Rest assured I will do all I can to help you here; however, you must be prepared to ask me and also to do some research yourself too my friend. Please do leave me a message at the bottom of my talk page if you wish me to help you further

--Senra (Talk) 12:04, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks so much for the information. I will try and include more reliable sources such as newspapers. How long do I have before these articles are deleted. I need some time to get the necessary references--Jgittins (talk) 23:18, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

• Strictly seven days from the initial posting at AfD but I asked for an extension as I need more time too. The important thing is to post keep or comment (or even delete) plus a reason on each of the three article deletion discussion pages. I recommened something like An editor has offered me help to improve the referencing of these articles. I have accepted that help and will be working with that editor over then next five days or something similar

• The deletion discussions are here ...

• St. Mary's Church, Secunderabad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) this articles deletion discussion
• Wesley Church, Clock Tower (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) this articles deletion discussion
• Holy Trinity Church, Bollarum (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) this articles deletion discussion

--Senra (Talk) 23:32, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I would urge you to take Senra's excellent advice, rather than starting new articles at this point. -- Radagast3 (talk) 09:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Possible copyright violations

The article St. Mary's Church, Secunderabad appears to contain material copied directly from the cited source (see Wikipedia:Copyright violations). This should be addressed urgently, or the article will probably be deleted under Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. I have fixed a similar problem with Holy Trinity Church, Bollarum. -- Radagast3 (talk) 01:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

– never mind, I've removed the problem text. -- Radagast3 (talk) 03:29, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Continued copyright violations

You are continuing to violate copyright by copying and pasting text from web sites, for example at Holy Trinity Church, Bollarum and St. Mary's Church, Secunderabad. Please stop this immediately, as it is illegal (I have reworded those articles to fix the immediate problems). See Wikipedia:Copyright violations. -- Radagast3 (talk) 08:47, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Copy-paste for an explanation in rather less technical terms. JohnCD (talk) 09:57, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

It is not easy to write wikipedia articles I know. I recommend you have another look at each example church in the list of churches under Offer of Assistance above. See how each paragraph, sometimes each sentence has a reference. See how if people are mentioned, they are nationally famous people, not just local people. See how important historical information is included. My library service is still not fixed though I am hoping it will be today --Senra (Talk) 10:58, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Copyright problems with All Saints Church, Trimulgherry

Hello. Concerning your contribution, All Saints Church, Trimulgherry, please note that Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites or printed material, without the permission of the author(s). This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://intach.ap.nic.in/awards6.htm. As a copyright violation, All Saints Church, Trimulgherry appears to qualify for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. All Saints Church, Trimulgherry has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message.

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However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright concerns very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Thank you. Radagast3 (talk) 09:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

You must not copy material into Wikipedia

Your addition to All Saints Church, Trimulgherry has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. You have already been warned, above; this is a final warning. Read Wikipedia:Copy-paste. JohnCD (talk) 10:14, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Copying rather than summarising

Please leave a message on my talk page where we can talk about your churches. I strongly advise you do not create any more churches until we have finished at least one of the original churches you started. Failure to stop copying will lead to you being banned from wikipedia and neither of us wish that to happen. As I have said elsewhere, please look at the example churches I showed you before such as

• St James' Church, Stretham and
• St George's Church, Little Thetford.
• Holy Trinity Church, Coverham,
• St John's Church, Throapham,
• St Oswald's Church, Kirk Sandall, and
• St Andrew's Church, Bywell

None of the above are copies of any websites, books or newspapers yet they (I believe) adequately describe the churches concerned. Please stop editing articles (for the moment). Please do read these articles and then leave a message on my talk page and we can discuss this further --Senra (Talk) 10:50, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Blocked

Elockid ^(Talk) 21:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

File:Wesleychurch.JPG

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The intent of that file was to be a photo of the church in Melbourne; over-riding it damaged several articles using the file. -- Radagast3 (talk) 22:43, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

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St. Ann's High School, Secunderabad

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give Saint Ann's High School a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into St. Ann's High School, Secunderabad. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Thank you. Steven (Editor) (talk) 02:29, 1 July 2019 (UTC)