Hip Hop Therapist
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April 2019
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Hip Hop Therapist (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I have not created this page for the purposes of spam or advertising. There is nothing for me to promote—-I do not represent any business or organization. I am simply trying to create a page to provide information for the public regarding this novel mental health intervention. I used information directly from my website, hiphoptherapy.com, which I created to do the same—to expound upon this approach. Initially I made the mistake of not first giving Wikipedia permission to use the information from my website, so I was flagged for copyright infringement. I followed the steps laid out afterwards to give Wikipedia the right to use this information as the sole copyright holder. There is nothing for me to gain by making my intellectual property available for free, so I do not understand why I have been blocked for trying to write an article as a reliable source in the field. If you look at all of the citations I have used, they are all credible, and none are in my name. If you read what I wrote, I am only giving credit to my late mentor and the founder of the approach, Dr. Edgar Tyson. If the problem is that my username is the same as what I created an account to write about, I can change the username. I’m not sure why that would be an issue though. I am not claiming to represent anybody but myself. Maybe on the surface it can raise a flag, but if you look into it, Hip-Hop Therapy nor my website are representative of any business or organization with a vested interest that would be paying me for some reason to do this. I am not trying to make the page so that only I can contribute or that I can have a monopoly on the definition. I am not trying to create a soapbox. The whole point of creating the page is for the information to be open-sourced and for others to be able to contribute. There is no monetary gain for me in that whatsoever. If there is something else I am doing wrong, I would really appreciate clarification. I’m wondering if this happened because my granting Wikipedia the rights to this information has not gone through yet. I received an email back saying it would take some time. I am hoping that is the issue, because being blocked for trying to get this information out there seems extreme.
Decline reason:
See below. I'm closing this unblock request because you've already got another open. You only need one request open at a time. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:41, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
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Username change request/ request for clarification
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Hip Hop Therapist (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I was unaware I could not create a username that has to do with the topic I am trying to create a page about. Is changing my username to my real name going to help distinguish that I am merely acting as a reliable source as opposed to trying to self-promote something? I was flagged for copyright violations as well because I had not sent in a declaration of consent regarding the information used that I am the copyright holder of. I have done so since, and I apologize, this process is new to me. I am just trying to create a page on a contemporary mental health approach that is being used across the country to help youth. If there are other concerns or something else I am doing wrong, I would really appreciate clarification, because I have nothing to promote nor advertise. Is it possible this will be reversed once my declaration of consent is processed?
Accept reason:
Username has been changed, discussion on policy has been had, unblocking ST47 (talk) 00:12, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Hip-Hop Therapy (talk) 21:43, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- There are two main reasons why you're blocked. The first is because your username is the same as a website, which is against our username policy. It looks like you've requested a new username, so that should be cleared up very soon. The second issue is the promotional article that you created. Anything can be promoted – a for-profit corporation, a non-commercial website, a documentary film about a social issue, a new form of therapy, or a charity. The article that you wrote uses an inappropriate tone. Words like "innovative", "profound", "inspired", "pioneering", etc do not belong on Wikipedia. They are inherently non-neutral and are used to promote the subject of the article. It looks like you may be close to the topic and have a conflict of interest. The last issue, copyright issues, looks like it's being cleared up. So, basically, what we need from you is an indication that you understand our rules and won't try to promote Hip Hop Therapy, much like we'd ask someone from a charity not to describe their charity as the most worthy one in the world. If you'd like, you can simply reply below without opening a new unblock request. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:41, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you for responding, I think I understand what you mean now in terms of taking an inappropriate tone with words such as those, and I can definitely use more neutral wording. I apologize for that, my intention is not to do anything other than provide information to the public regarding what Hip Hop Therapy is. It is a relatively new therapeutic approach, so I figured I would try to use my expertise in the field to create a page about it. I am definitely close to the topic as a mental health professional who uses it, but I believe that makes me a reliable source as opposed to someone clouded by a conflict of interest. I have researched the topic extensively, and have a wide array of scholarly, peer-reviewed sources that I have absolutely no attachment to. Hiphoptherapy.com is my website, though that was created to serve as a resource for practitioners looking for information on how to implement the approach. My intention is not to claim that Hip Hop Therapy is better than any other modality, it is just to provide information on it, but I can understand that the wording I used could be perceived as non-neutral. I would be happy to try to rephrase and resubmit if that would be allowed. I have never done this before, so I apologize for the beginner mistakes and if this has come across as ill-intentioned. I would prefer to keep my username, but if that is not allowed because I have a website with that same name, I understand. I just want to clarify though that there are other websites with that same name, and I by no means have exclusive rights to that term. It is not a brand or a trademark, it is simply a mode of therapy, much like music therapy or poetry therapy. If you can't create a username called music therapy and then post about music therapy, then it makes sense that I cannot use Hip Hop Therapy as a username. Is that how it works? Would making it less generic be more fitting, like Hip Hop Therapy Collective or something of that sort? I've proposed to change it to my real name, but in case that is taken already, I just would like to fully understand how the username impacts what a user can post about. Thank you for your time. Hip-Hop Therapy (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- If you can't the username you want, what about "Hip-Hop Therapy practitioner"? That makes it unambiguously about you, rather than a website or a group of people (such as a collective). It seems to me like it'd fit our policies, and you could mostly keep the same username. Your username won't affect what you can write about, but if you want to write about a friend, mentor, or colleague, it might be harder for you to stay neutral than for a disinterested person like me. It's something to keep in mind when you write about this topic. Of course, I wouldn't know what I'm talking about if I were to write an article about this topic, so that's the trade-off. So, I guess my advice would be to pay attention to WP:COI and its advice, even if you think it doesn't apply to you. The advice can still be helpful, even if it's assuming that you're a marketing guy for Sony. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:23, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- That sounds great, thank you so much for the advice, I am going to try Hip-Hop Therapist so it shows I am merely one practitioner and not an authority. That also makes sense about my mentor, I will definitely be particularly mindful not to let my personal opinion of him skew my commentary on his academic work. I will make sure to just state the facts (without flowery wording like innovative), including when he created the approach, how he envisioned it in his scholarly writings, and how it has been built upon by several practitioners over the years (all with citations of course). I will definitely review that COI page closely before trying to repost on the subject in order to ensure objectivity. Thank you again, I really appreciate all of your clarification on this.Hip-Hop Therapy (talk) 22:03, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- I have changed your username, and I will let someone else review your request. 331dot (talk) 22:33, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Ok great, thank you very much. Hip-Hop Therapist (talk) 23:30, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- I have changed your username, and I will let someone else review your request. 331dot (talk) 22:33, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- That sounds great, thank you so much for the advice, I am going to try Hip-Hop Therapist so it shows I am merely one practitioner and not an authority. That also makes sense about my mentor, I will definitely be particularly mindful not to let my personal opinion of him skew my commentary on his academic work. I will make sure to just state the facts (without flowery wording like innovative), including when he created the approach, how he envisioned it in his scholarly writings, and how it has been built upon by several practitioners over the years (all with citations of course). I will definitely review that COI page closely before trying to repost on the subject in order to ensure objectivity. Thank you again, I really appreciate all of your clarification on this.Hip-Hop Therapy (talk) 22:03, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- If you can't the username you want, what about "Hip-Hop Therapy practitioner"? That makes it unambiguously about you, rather than a website or a group of people (such as a collective). It seems to me like it'd fit our policies, and you could mostly keep the same username. Your username won't affect what you can write about, but if you want to write about a friend, mentor, or colleague, it might be harder for you to stay neutral than for a disinterested person like me. It's something to keep in mind when you write about this topic. Of course, I wouldn't know what I'm talking about if I were to write an article about this topic, so that's the trade-off. So, I guess my advice would be to pay attention to WP:COI and its advice, even if you think it doesn't apply to you. The advice can still be helpful, even if it's assuming that you're a marketing guy for Sony. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:23, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you for responding, I think I understand what you mean now in terms of taking an inappropriate tone with words such as those, and I can definitely use more neutral wording. I apologize for that, my intention is not to do anything other than provide information to the public regarding what Hip Hop Therapy is. It is a relatively new therapeutic approach, so I figured I would try to use my expertise in the field to create a page about it. I am definitely close to the topic as a mental health professional who uses it, but I believe that makes me a reliable source as opposed to someone clouded by a conflict of interest. I have researched the topic extensively, and have a wide array of scholarly, peer-reviewed sources that I have absolutely no attachment to. Hiphoptherapy.com is my website, though that was created to serve as a resource for practitioners looking for information on how to implement the approach. My intention is not to claim that Hip Hop Therapy is better than any other modality, it is just to provide information on it, but I can understand that the wording I used could be perceived as non-neutral. I would be happy to try to rephrase and resubmit if that would be allowed. I have never done this before, so I apologize for the beginner mistakes and if this has come across as ill-intentioned. I would prefer to keep my username, but if that is not allowed because I have a website with that same name, I understand. I just want to clarify though that there are other websites with that same name, and I by no means have exclusive rights to that term. It is not a brand or a trademark, it is simply a mode of therapy, much like music therapy or poetry therapy. If you can't create a username called music therapy and then post about music therapy, then it makes sense that I cannot use Hip Hop Therapy as a username. Is that how it works? Would making it less generic be more fitting, like Hip Hop Therapy Collective or something of that sort? I've proposed to change it to my real name, but in case that is taken already, I just would like to fully understand how the username impacts what a user can post about. Thank you for your time. Hip-Hop Therapy (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- @ST47: what do you think? I don't see a problem with unblocking. The article was created as a draft, and if it's recreated there, it'll go through a review process. Hip-Hop Therapist better understands our policies now and has agreed to follow them. The username issues and copyright problems seem to have been addressed, too. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:35, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- This all looks good to me! ST47 (talk) 00:12, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your consideration, I really appreciate it. Just to be sure on how to proceed, I should wait for a response regarding my declaration of consent before attempting to recreate the draft, right?Hip-Hop Therapist (talk) 03:42, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- If you want to use copyrighted text, yeah. If you start from scratch and don't use any of the original text, you can create a new article any time you want. Just be careful that you don't copy text from other sources (or even make the new sentences look too similar to copyrighted text). The way Wikipedia is licensed, it means that you suddenly have to care more than most people on the internet do about copyright. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:28, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Ok great, thank you very much for all your help throughout this process. I will definitely wait until I get confirmation that my declaration of consent is approved, just to be safe. Hip-Hop Therapist (talk) 15:41, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Looks like JJMC98 has done that https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk%3AHip-Hop_Therapy&type=revision&diff=908172223&oldid=908171610
- I have removed words that could be perceived as promotional and I've improved the references. Rong Qiqi (talk) PRO-WIKIPEDIA = ANTI-WMF 01:36, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
- Ok great, thank you very much for all your help throughout this process. I will definitely wait until I get confirmation that my declaration of consent is approved, just to be safe. Hip-Hop Therapist (talk) 15:41, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- If you want to use copyrighted text, yeah. If you start from scratch and don't use any of the original text, you can create a new article any time you want. Just be careful that you don't copy text from other sources (or even make the new sentences look too similar to copyrighted text). The way Wikipedia is licensed, it means that you suddenly have to care more than most people on the internet do about copyright. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:28, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your consideration, I really appreciate it. Just to be sure on how to proceed, I should wait for a response regarding my declaration of consent before attempting to recreate the draft, right?Hip-Hop Therapist (talk) 03:42, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- This all looks good to me! ST47 (talk) 00:12, 17 April 2019 (UTC)