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Converting this to a redirect without preserving either the information or sources, & without discussion was ill-advised. A bit more care in future? TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 08:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

"Copies of a book"? Really? It's called "sourcing". As for whether a single page is a better idea, I thought actual discussion, rather than your arbitrary action, was preferable. Moreover, IMO, separate pages may encourage expansion, where a single page might discourage it. Which is also worth discussing, IMO. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 08:27, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

SVG logos and the Graphics Lab

You asked if it was official Wikipedia policy in regards to "SVG recreations of Olympic logos." We don't have a specific policy that says "No." to these sorts of things, but there has been a lot of talk in the past about the topic. The most recent discussion concerning this was initiated by me, and supported by others at WT:NFCC, see this discussion. What we oppose is the recreation (either tracing, hand re-drawing, or autotracing) of official/corporate logos, because the nature of such a conversion does not allow for an exact duplicate. We don't necessarily oppose SVG logos, if not user created. Companies often spend thousands and thousands of dollars on branding, which involves choosing specific typefaces, tweeking the fonts and letter spacing, choosing spot colors, and drawing unique logos and marks. Whether the differences between our recreations are minor or major, we still do not have an exact copy, and thus are degrading those designers original work. That said, especially with contemporary corporate logos (but maybe not the older olympic logos), it is often not hard to find vector versions from official sources (whether in PDFs found on official websites, or in media packets or what have you). Additionally, since non-free content is limited to size output restrictions (WP:NFCC #3b), a good quality PNG serves just about the same purpose as an SVG, so the gain is minimal (or we really aren't loosing a whole lot if we keep raster versions of these logos). Furthermore, we allow our graphists to devote their skills to producing free content that can be used more liberally across many different projects, where the scope of non-free content is very minimal and restricted. I'd be glad to discuss this further with you, and would like to hear your side if you have any issues or concerns. Thanks!-Andrew c ^[talk] 15:50, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

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I thought he was just ESA as well, but according to his official NASA biography "Clervoy was seconded from the Délégation Générale pour L' Armement (DGA) to CNES (French Space Agency) when he was selected in the second group of French astronauts in 1985." Rillian (talk) 16:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

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• A) I edited while you were editing, so I didn't see the speedy. The second revert is not mine BUT
  B) This does not qualify for a Speedy, the head of a NOC is notable by my book. Go to AFD if you disagree, please. Hektor (talk) 09:47, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

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Companions in Doctor Who

Companions are people who sources say are companions. Jackie travelled in the TARDIS in Army of Ghosts, two of the Bowie Base crew other than Adelaide in Waters of Mars; they're not companions. There is no basis to list River as such. As for Rory, it's entirely possible he might fit the companion bill in Vampires in Venice, but usual practice is to wait until the episode airs unless there's an official source. To me, however, it looks like he is not going to be a companion in that episode to be quite honest. U-Mos (talk) 19:38, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

• That's an opinion. Not mine. Hektor (talk) 19:40, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes it is, but difference is I'm not forcing my opinions into a Wikipedia article. U-Mos (talk) 19:52, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

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The Vampires of Venice

Thanks for providing a source! (Your edit summary did have me worried, though - it made it look like you'd simply reverted...)

Cheers, TFOWR^propaganda 21:30, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

...and your more-recent edit summary here makes it look as if the matter wasn't, in fact, being discussed on the talk page. TFOWR^propaganda 22:24, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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File:2005–2008 Citroën C4 hatchback.jpg is a reasonable replacement. Moreover, the article says "The second generation Citroën C4 was presented in June 2010" — if it's been presented, it surely can be photographed. Nyttend (talk) 14:17, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

a) I guess it's the same in the US as in Europe, there are multiple generations of cars with the same name, you wouldn't illustrate the 2010 Camry with a picture of the 2005 Camry, or the Golf V with the Golf IV. File:2005–2008 Citroën C4 hatchback.jpg is not a reasonable replacement. b) I think I have quite clearly written that the car has been presented, this means that pictures have been distributed to the press, but it has not been shown publicly. The car will be publicly displayed in four months. So please revert your deletion, fair use applies till October 2010. Thanks. Hektor (talk) 16:35, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

You can take a picture of a previous edition and describe the changes in words. Moreover, you could create a composite image from nonfree images that have been distributed publicly; because you'd be using several such images, it wouldn't be a derivative work of any of them. Nyttend (talk) 16:40, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

I am the third party; Feydey was the first to dispute its use. Why can't you describe the changes in words? Nyttend (talk) 16:51, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Once again, this is a completely different car, no element is common, describing the differences amounts to describe the whole car. I stop here. Hektor (talk) 16:58, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

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Manned mission to Mars

Hi. I've reverted your move of this article to Human mission to Mars. The word "manned" is the one that's predominantly used in the literature and is nowadays taken as synonymous with "human", which is a but clumsy anyway. Also such a significant change should really be discussed on the talk page first - WP:BOLD has its limits!. andy (talk) 10:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

• I disagree. Your litterature must date back from the time of Mad Men. Human is nowadays predominantly used by space agencies and astronautics specialists as manned is considered male chauvinism. NASA and ESA no longer talk about manned space flight but human space flight. We need to remain gender neutral.
  • See ESA And NASA And JAXA - Hektor (talk) 10:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
    • Nevertheless, this is something that should be debated first. andy (talk) 12:16, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
    • The key point is that it is only very recently that manned spaceflight has been referred to as human spaceflight, and the vast majority of references in the literature are to a manned Mars mission - just take a look at the article's references, many of them quite recent and from decidely non-chauvinistic publications. E.g. #33: "Russia proposes manned Mars mission by 2015 - 08 July 2002 - New Scientist". Or #37, from the American Physical Society, which refers to both "manned space exploration" and "human exploration" as if everyone knows they're the same thing. Let's stick with established usage and not worry about "a foolish consistency" andy (talk) 12:46, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
      • Not a valid reason to be offensive towards half of humankind. I consider the wording taken by the world's leading space agencies as valid. I have as a student here in Paris worked in workshop led by engineers from ESA and CNES and never ever would they use the term "manned spaceflight". Hektor (talk) 20:45, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
        • Well Werner von Braun used the term (meaning males) and so did generations of other advocates (meaning women too). Nowadays "manned" is simply the counterpart of "unmanned", whatever it once meant, and Wikipedia should not be rewriting history. Would you say that Cassini is an "unhumanned" space probe? I think not. English is a clumsy language but it is also infinitely flexible. Anyway, if you really want to make political corrections to this article you should talk about it first, and I for one would resist on the grounds of historical accuracy and common usage. Nuff said. andy (talk) 22:16, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
          • Werner von Braun ? well, you really choose odd references. Cassini is a robotic space probe. Historical accuracy is not a justification. There were things which were commonplace to say regarding race, gender or sexual preference twenty or even ten years ago which are no longer palatable. Manned spaceflight is one of them. Hektor (talk) 22:23, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
            • Different schools of thought. IMHO if an encyclopaedia isn't accurate it's toilet paper, so historical accuracy to me is a justification and the alternative is revisionism which I find objectionable. As it happens I chose von Braun as an example because he's prominently cited in the article as "the first person to make a detailed technical study of a Mars mission", so it's not all that odd, and he was of course somewhat important in the development of the US manned space program. This article is based in large part on historical proposals and they were for white males to go to Mars. A good encyclopaedia article is about the world as it was and is, not as some of us would like it to be or have been. That's why wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and not a political tract. Maybe this is a difference between being British and American. Most of the time we Brits simply don't care - we assume good faith. But if you really feel so strongly about this one there are plenty more out there - Manned Orbital Laboratory, Manned Maneuvering Unit, Manned Venus Flyby (my favourite lunatic space idea), Man In Space Soonest and then all the references in all the articles. And that's just space stuff. Why waste your time? andy (talk) 23:03, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
              • I think that there are two cases. Manned Orbital Laboratory, Manned Maneuvering Unit or Man In Space Soonest are historical programs and it would make no sense to change their name. On the contrary Manned mission to Mars or Manned Venus Flyby are generic missions which hopefully will happen someday in the future and should be renamed. Hektor (talk) 06:15, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

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