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Tracklists

The tracklist boxes look nice. Many thanks for adding them. — Deckiller 22:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Much appreciated. Now I'd need to see with wikiproject-albums what they think of a wide spread use of this kind of tracklist box. Get a general format going or something.

I'd like to second Deckiller's compliment, those are much more elegant than the previous, floating versions. - Cyrus XIII 18:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Whoops, I didn't notice that his message was that much older, my bad. But yeah, I do like the non-floating versions better, as they integrate really seamlessly into the page, as opposed to the previous boxes, that also changed their horizontal alignment depending on their position to the respective infobox (kinda irritating). I've experimented with track listing layout a bit myself (this article being a more recent example), since the regular numbered list approach does not quite cut it in terms of readability, after a certain critical mass of per-track-information is reached (see here what I mean). And standard wiki tables, well, they are ugly grey boxes. Hope this resolves any missunderstanding. So, um, why aren't you satisfied with the current (non-floating) variant? - Cyrus XIII 20:08, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

That's what I thought you were referring to. I like that white edgeless wikitable of yours, but there is no way in HELL, you are going to standardize something like that. I agree using tables is good once more than just "N° - title" is present. Anything more and I believe it should even be compulsory.

As for waht I don't like about the new one: It's more of an article-wide thing than just the listings. I don't see why we should do a sub-section called "track listing" when it is the only one present, and even more sub-sub sections called "disk X". Further more, the old boxes were neatly tagged "Track listing" (which I now adhere to). Finally, you complain about "changed their horizontal alignment depending on their position to the respective infobox", but doing a simple "allign="left" and standardizing "width="60%" and you are all set!

I think I'll try it out... tell me what you think.Happypal 20:20, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

That looks certainly a lot better. I gave the seamless lists another try though, with the "Track listing" and "Disc xxx" strings receiving a would-be-section-header formatting, resulting in no additional section/contents list clutter. What do you think? Regarding the borderless/white table variants, well somebody with the respective skills would have to create a class, so that it can be as easily used as Wikitable and then time will tell whether it finds acceptance and use. It's true that a top-down approach to make it a standard would never work, but slowly establishing an alternative for more layout-conscious Wikipedians seems entirely possible to me. - Cyrus XIII 23:31, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty much Okay with the article, your modifications are good, but there are two things that still bother me:

1- those floating [show] buttons. When they are not in a table, they really look out of place.

2-Because we are keeping Music_of_Final_Fantasy_VII#Final_Fantasy_VII_Original_Soundtrack in table format, then I find in this case it looks better if we keep the titles in boxes.

I tried a modification to address issue 2, and I am quite satisfied with the result (it also solves issue one for tables). I don't know what to do for issue 1. What do you think?Happypal 05:27, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I tried another thing with the FF7 OST tables, giving them a borderless layout, similar to the one I showed you earlier - since we are already using a lot of custom table code, there is no harm in having some more, right? It provides a more consistent look for the article as a whole and maybe that's also the only thing we can do to better "integrate" the floating [show] buttons, by using them consistently throughout the article. They teach us a lot about usability these days, at the polytechnic I attend, and a sense of continuity can really be a factor, to make interfaces more accessible.

By the way, since we've been doing a lot of reverting on that article (though the friendly and productive kind, which is great) since yesterday, I should probably point out the three-revert rule, just in case you don't know about it yet. I really don't want you to unwittingly run afoul of it. - Cyrus XIII 10:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I just had another idea that might solve the [show] issue, but I don't have time right now to implement it. I'll try to do it tonight. - Cyrus XIII 10:52, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

NP for the three revert, I bypass that by not actually reverting, which is okay, since it is a friendly revert (except for that last one...). Can't wait to see your idea. Going to try to tweak your table a bit.

I changed your tables, so that there is only 1 table per album. This brings much simpler syntax, and the table is aligned with the [show], kinda fixing the float issue.

After looking at it a bit more, I'm not sure I like border less tables. I think there is a wikitable format, and it's there to be used. I actually like the way it looks. The ONLY advantage I can see to it not being used, is that the "Disc x" cell is colorless and border less, creating a seamless link between the title and the below table.

Finally, I find that manipulating borders is a bit too difficult for me. and some of these function (border-collapse:collapse) still remain a bit obscure to me. For example, I'm still not even sue WHY the borders have disappeared in this article. I mean, adding "border:#AAAAAA;" (or any other color), changes the inside border's color, and removes the outside one. WTF?Happypal 14:53, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia should be accessible to all editors, so I say let's stick to wikitables (my opinion)Happypal 15:03, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey Happypal thanks to replying to my thing on FFX Music and you are most welcome for my contribution. It was a bit of work but hey i enjoyed doing it lol.

Anyways since what you just told me that the edits you are making are part of the ALBUMS conventions, is there any way to therefore change that; to change "Track listing" to "[Album name] listing"? Because "[Album name] listing" looks more nicer, neater and more formal to look at. Also, and I know using another page is not really a good for an argument, but on the Music of Kingdom Hearts the track listings are under a sub-heading entitled Track Listing. By default there must be "Track lisitng" for the tables whether or not the sub-heading Track listing is included. But if Track listing is included you can placed "[Album name] listing" along with it. I think that would be good for a change in the conventions for Games, Manga and Anime. It just looks more neater and more formal for an encyclopedia. Well thats all i gotta say. Talk to you later. Xangel 16:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I just saw your recent contributions in putting Track listing and Disc one, two... etc. I don't like it lol well thats my opinion =D. But still there must be a better way to do this. I'd agree to the Disc No. inclusion for easier access but still it should be a little more attractive. Anyways see you. Xangel 16:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

FFVII music

I think I have found the solution.
My last edit solves all of the problems we previously had.
- All the "[show]" are correctly aligned in the article.
- The tables are perfectly aligned with the above "[show]"
- It is written in very simple wikitable format
- I left in a comment to pass quickly from classic wikitable to borderless table format (although I do think we should use the wikitable, for uniformity, consistency, because it looks better, IMO, and it's what people expect to see.
With that, I am going to bed.Happypal 16:42, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Those other FF music articles

Hi there, I've been browsing the other articles about FF music and without meaning any disrespect to previous contributers, some of those pages are just godawful. Since the one for FF7 turned out so nicely, how about we team up and give the others a similar makeover? You know, adding infoboxes, rewriting texts for continuity, working some table magic and so on. I believe we could reach decent results in a very short amount of time. If you're interested, how about starting with FF6 (since you already did some work on that one) and then working our way down the numbering?

Regarding the latest developments at the FF7 music page: I know that it's bad form to look for precedents on a user-edited project, but given that simple

[number]. [title] – [length]

scenarios are handled as lists virtually everywhere on Wikipedia's music related articles, it seems quite appropriate to stick with that formatting, even if the article in question uses a few tables for more complex data structures. The current alignment of the show buttons looks great by the way. - Cyrus XIII 08:24, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello there! I was planning to update the rest of those pages, but truth be told, I am currently on vacations, so editing has been rather slow... But yeah, why not! (that, and I was waiting a bit to see if anybody had complaints about the collapsible tables).

As for the whole "n. title - length" scenario, I agree with you (kind of, not completely). It was actually User:PresN who put them in table format, I merely changed his tables to be more like the new collapsible. I don't like reverting other people's work, and I DO find that putting even those in table format makes the whole article more consistent. There are no precedents on pages of the type "Music of" with multiple soundtracks, but I have to admit when I press the "show" link to see the tracklisting, and I only get a textual list rather than the previous tables, I am dissapointed.

But for me, any will do. I'll stick to the "n. title - length" scenario, because it is guideline, but I don't like it.

I only like contributing with tracklists, tables, infoboxes etc. If you want, I can work on those, and you can be more on the textual pages. Will that do? happypal (Talk | contribs) 20:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm continuing work on FFVI's pages. Then I'll move on to V's. After that, I don't know. I only played 5678 and 10, so doing the others isn't really exciting for me :) happypal (Talk | contribs) 21:04, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Crisis Core

Yeah, I'm just changing it to single quotes because that's what you do when you quote a quote, right?—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 00:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I tried to check it out, and found this: Nested quote#Convention and Nested quote#Example in literature. It's not a Wikipedia Guideline, nor does it seem like a professional article (Requires attention from a professionals). Also, Quotation mark#Quotations and speech, but this one has a "citation needed".

Anyways, I had no idea about this rule. I probably could not find any rock solid info about this because it's wide spread and generally accepted, but nobody cares enough to make a guideline out of it.

I will now change the way I quote things around here!

happypal (Talk | contribs) 04:28, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex O.S.T.

Just pointing out, the cover you uploaded for GITS SAC OST is actually for the album "Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex O.S.T.+". Might want to fix that :P Yaluen 08:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Fixed, but it's kinda all the same happypal (Talk | contribs) 08:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Forgive a noob but I just noticed that it was somebody else who upped the pic. I guess if you're going to fix it, it's fine. Yaluen 08:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

It's all good :). There is no "article property" on wikipedia, so it doesn't matter either.happypal (Talk | contribs) 08:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Music of Cosmic Era

Thanks for your message! I always hope that I can finish this article, Gundam SEED has very good music but they released a lot of albums. Anyway, have a nice day, I really hope to see more of your contributions (Thanhtu87 (talk) 15:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)).

Foreing albums and songs

Konnichiwa, Siento molestarte cuando pude haber elegido a cualquiera de los miembros del projecto de albums, pero me senti mas en confianza con un hermano Otaku; podrias decirme si hay algun concenso acerca de si se debe de poner la traduccion al ingles del titulo de un album y las canciones que lo componen, estoy trabajando en los articulos de un grupo argentino llamado Los Fabulosos Cadillacs y tengo esa duda, apreciaria tu consejo. Doumo arigatou gozaimasu. Zidane tribal (talk) 21:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Arigatou, you are very welcome Zidane tribal (talk) 03:56, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again but something has been bothering me. Following the project standars i use the full name of the author the first time and then only the surname, now, the vocalist of the band is intenationally known as Vicentico, while his name is Gabriel Fernandez, how should i put him down?

Again sorry to bother you a second time. Gomen nasai.

I`m really sorry to bother you yet again.

After having a little of a hard time finding info for the las two album of the band which are twin concerts called Hola & Chau, my doubt is: Given the fact that both were in the same plce with only a few days of difference and they represent the (until a month ago) final concerts of the band, should i give them separate articles or unified them in a single one?.

Sorry to bug you so much, I`m starting to act as if you have adopt me. Zidane tribal (talk) 07:04, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

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About the covers

Thanks fot the desambiguation stuff, now about the covers, i uploaded the covers for some of the albums with the fair use rationale of the cover for Vasos Vacios and Rey Azucar but STBotI bug me about the fair use rationale on La Marcha so i don`t quite know how should i procced with marcha, Hola, Chau and Sopa de Caracol. If either could you tell me what to do or do it yourself, it`ll be great. Thanks. Zidane tribal (talk) 23:18, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Done, but not without setbacks, please take a look at the covers files and at the hola/chau article. Zidane tribal (talk) 08:25, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Asessment

 Done

Hi again, pal

Listen, i was about to do some assesment on the albums articles (give stub status to the apropiate ones, more than anything) but when reading the quality guidelines a realize that the articles i`ve been working on with your help meet the start criteria, and that i can`t change their status myself because of my strong participation, so, could you? Zidane tribal (talk) 09:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I didn't give Sopa de Caracol start though. When assessing pages, I think it's ok if you assess as stub or start by yourself. Nobody will care. Once you start reaching C or B, then you might start asking for a second oppinion. After that, it is not possible to do it yourself. happypal (Talk | contribs) 09:47, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Gotcha. Thanks Zidane tribal (talk) 17:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey buddy

How are you doing?. We have spoken in supcom wikia. --SkyWalker (talk) 15:56, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, s'up? I've seen you around, like at the Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Original Soundtrack. I haven't seen you much at supcom, but that place is kind of lonely, and editing it sometimes seems pointless... I'm doing my best to make it better and not give up, but it's not an easy task... I'm trying to finish getting all the page architecture up, so that new users can just visit pages easilly and edit. happypal (Talk | contribs) 05:55, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Well iam not sure to do in supcom wikia. I don't have the game. Iam searching for "Supreme Commander Gold Edition". I could not find in shops but i found it in EBay. Not sure if Ebay can be trusted. Can Ebay be trusted?. Also my current system which is very old config many games such has supcom won't run on it. So iam saving money to buy a new system. I don't if waiting for DX 10.1 card is worth it. DX 10.1 card is coming on Feb 2009. There is so many good games coming out on 2009. I was wondering when will Supreme Commander 2 would come. --SkyWalker (talk) 06:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

As far as I know, there is no supcom 2. Chris taylor and his team is currently working on a game called Demigod. They did say they were going to release a second expansion for SupCom, but that was more than a year ago, with no news. IMO, they aren't going to do it, and hope we forget about it :/

With ebay, there are massive chances that your CD key will not be available for use online, as it was already used by the owner (they are a 1 account use only). You can contact the seller to ask him about. If it is an Ebay store, you should be fine, if it's second hand, I wouldn't buy it. That CD key is the only reason you'd actually pay money for the game, rather than download it off of internet. Also, keep in mind that if you are buying second hand, GPG doesn't see a single cent of your money anyways. IMO, if you don't buy the game new (Ebay store is alright), than you might as well bit torrent it.

About DX10.1, there will always be better things comming out soon :) Febuary is like 9 months away! If you want my opinion, you can go for one of those new ATI 4870. It's one of the best cards out there. It'll last you quite a while, and play most of today's games on MAX. That, or spend like 80$ on a mid-range card, and change it come febuary. In either cases, graphic cards are just changeable components, don't let it keep you from buying a new rig ;)

I play supcom on a 2 year old laptop, with a 128 mb graphic chipset. And it runs. You'd be surprised the performance you can get out of a game on absolute minimal. It ain't pretty, but it works for me. Buying an out of price rig is absolutly un necessary >:( happypal (Talk | contribs) 07:46, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Well according to this guy. He tells me this game is original and unopened. It is Ebay India. The price is same has original game that cost in India. Well i wish they will be a supcom 2. I was dreaming about it yesterday. It would be cool if there is underground building and battles, undersea buildings and space building and space wars would be cool. :P. How is Geforce 200 Series?. --SkyWalker (talk) 08:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

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