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Arsenal Reserves & Academy

Sure, I keep both on my watchlist as a matter of course. Your contributions have been really good, by the way - if you could cite the sources you have got your information from they would be even better. If you need a hand doing this don't hesitate to ask. Qwghlm 14:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

6th place in 1914-15

Thanks for the heads-up - I'd heard of it but had never found a definitive reference for it. Do you have one at hand - a book or something which mentions the mistake? More than happy to include it as a note if I can find a reliable source for it. Qwghlm (talk) 12:27, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Added it in now - thanks for your prompt response! Qwghlm (talk) 14:39, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

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Image licences etc.

Hi Goonerak - thanks for adding the images of some of Arsenal's players past. Just a note - on Wikipedia all images must be tagged to conform with the copyright rules here (hence why you've been getting the warnings). The images you've uploaded are legitimate, just make sure there is a proper notice stating the source and copyright - I've done this for all the images you've added, e.g. for David Greenaway - it states the source, publication date and the copyright status (in this case, they are public domain as they were published before 1923). If you add similar tags to any further images from before 1923 that you upload to Wikipedia, then you won't get any more warnings and they won't risk being deleted. Hope this helps! Qwghlm (talk) 12:41, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

References

Hi again - right, references. Your best bet is to look at Wikipedia:Footnotes for a detailed manual, but in short, there are two parts to it. The first is to put the number in square brackets in the text that needs to be cited - that can be done by writing <ref>....</ref> - with whatever reference in place of the dots. The second step is to put the footnotes in the right place at the bottom of the page, this can be most usually done by just adding a section with the code as below:

{{reflist}}

Example

This is a citation on Wikipedia.

References

It's well worth checking out an existing example, such as the code for Arsenal F.C., which is referenced using a diverse range of resources. Also, there are templates such as {{cite book}} which make life easier in formatting citations - for an example of book references I commonly use, check out User:Qwghlm/references. Hope this helps.

PS Apologies - I might have beaten you to it with Chapman - I got a book about him for Christmas and have been expanding the article since! But anything you can add is very welcome. Qwghlm (talk) 19:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Captains

As for the list of captains - it's meant to be just permanent captains not matchday captains. Like everything else in the sandbox, it's not very well cited and cobbled together bit by bit, as I go - a lot of it will never make it to the main Wikipedia namespace. Qwghlm (talk) 19:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Arsenal minor players

Thanks for dropping a note - I count any player that was on the club's books, either as apprentice, youth or professional, that did not play a first-team competitive game, as a "minor player" for that section. I would not include unsuccessful trialists, though. To be honest, I do not worry too much about that section - it is only for players who have Wikipedia pages about them, not every former youth player, and I maintain it just to make sure that every player in Category:Arsenal F.C. players is included on the page as well, basically.

If Hotte was on the club's books as a youth then feel free to correct my mistake and undo my edit. Ditto for any other players who may have been in a similar circumstance - please add the mention of their time at Arsenal in their article and add them to the category for Arsenal players as well, thanks. Qwghlm (talk) 22:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Player middle names

The only one I've reverted to my knowledge Kerrea Gilbert - I can't find any source for his middle name being "Kuche" apart from Wikipedia and various copies - if you can find a non-subscription source then add it in. Else don't bother - it's better that Wikipedia omits something than risk being incorrect. Qwghlm (talk) 18:04, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Blackpool v. Arsenal

Thanks for that. I've kept the tie name as the "Challenge Cup" until it can be verified otherwise. - Dudesleeper / Talk 13:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

And what's the book doing in the loft?! - Dudesleeper / Talk 13:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Bob Wall

Hi Andy, I've just put together an article on Bob Wall, the former Arsenal secretary and director, I'd appreciate you looking it over and adding anything you can to it. Most importantly, I'm presuming he's no longer alive (else he'd be 96 or so) but can't find a date of death anywhere. Anything you can add anything to it that would be great, cheers. Qwghlm (talk) 21:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Managers page

Hi - I was going to drop you a line mentioning I moved the managers table but you clocked it already. Just to explain the move - I want to add detailed references to the managers table but if I did so I would massively increase the size of the main Arsenal page and its references section, hence the splitting off. Thanks for adding all these new references in and if you have any more than the ones I've put in then please do so. Qwghlm (talk) 12:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Morrell - My copy of Forward Arsenal! states (p. 26): By April 1915, with a £5,000 lostt on the season's working, the club had to dispense with Manager George Morrell, and Coach "Punch" McEwan [sic] got the teams together for the newly-formed London Football Combination. Does this mean James McEwen? I believe he was also called "Jock" McEwen? Maybe he was caretaker for that last match but that is probably speculation without any harder line of evidence; it might be a useful line of enquiry though.

As for first manager, he is mentioned as Arsenal's trainer (not manager) on page 11 of Forward Arsenal!: Arsenal's trainer, Hollis, however, was true to the nineteeth century pattern. He wore a bowler hat cocked on one side, a gold watch adorned his waistcoat; and coatless, he displayed a vividly striped shirt for all to see. In Alan Roper's "The Real Arsenal Story" there is no mention of him at all. Curiously, there is however the case of William (Bill) Parr - he is mentioned in the minutes of the club in 1893 mention him as "team manager" and a January 1895 report in the Kentish Mercury: The Woolwich Arsenal team under the management of Mr W Parr would leave Euston at 6.30pm and stay the night at Stoke.... Curious. I can't find any definitive source though that makes the distinction between Hollis and Parr's roles at the club, however. Qwghlm (talk) 22:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I've edited the articles concerned now and removed Hollis from the list. As for it being on the official website, I know that the Arsenal website editors frequently use Wikipedia as a reference as certain phrases in articles I've written appear later in articles they write, so it may well be a case of the same myth being perpetuated. With so many sources which predate Wikipedia saying Mitchell was first, it's probably best to go with them rather than the official site. Qwghlm (talk) 10:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Dealing with your points in order:

1. Caretaker manager in 1915 - good idea, I think this is the right way of doing it until there is a definite confirmation.
2. Elcoat - let's not worry for now, but if & when you get an indication of who was caretaker is we can update
3. Crayston & Howe - both now have a note on them saying they were initially caretaker. Qwghlm (talk) 13:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
4. A fourth point - according to Tom Whittaker's autobiography which you have scanned on your site - [1] and [2] imply Jack Crayston took over at the start of the 1956-57 season as acting manager while Whittaker was recovering from his illness that summer, that ultimately led to his death. Does that mean Crayston should be credited with the results from the start of that season rather than just the matches after Whittaker's death in October? Qwghlm (talk) 13:43, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Ownership of Arsenal F.C.

Hi andy - a new article called Ownership of Arsenal F.C. got split off from the main article - I've pulled in some extra history and references but if you have any more of your own from your extensive archives to add that would be great as well. Thanks! Qwghlm (talk) 10:41, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Arsenal F.C. 2005-06 article

Wat up, we don't seem to have a page on the 2005-06 article. All ESPN Soccernet seems to have is the Schedule and Roster Statistics are there any references that explains everything from 05-06? – Michael (talk) 04:35, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

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The quote you helpfuly furnished here, what book or publication did you reproduce it from? I wish to provide two refernces, if possible. Thanks. — ThePowerofX 23:21, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

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