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Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours to the page HMS Sheffield (D80) has an edit summary that appears to be inaccurate or inappropriate. The summaries are helpful to people browsing an article's history, so it is important that you use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did. Feel free to use the sandbox to make test edits. Thank you. Lyndaship (talk) 11:20, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Lyndaship. My first edit was reverted because of allegedly inappropriate sourcing (German "tabloid" Stern (magazine). This, interestingly, you did not find inappropriate, why?. In my revert I inserted a new source: an article from The Guardian, into the edit summary. It is obvious that this is clear enough to be easily understood as saying: If you do not like Stern, perhaps you accept the Guardian. The fellow Wikipedian reverted again (complete revert) without any reason. If you look at the context, you will understand what happened. Interestingly again, now, after the second revert, you are coming along, claiming lack of appropriate edit summary. This smells of something like a concerted action, I am sorry to say. The whole article is a mix of technical jargon, conceit and leaving out of unpleasant facts: In the article you will find hints at deficiencies on the ship, but their detailed descritption, which si int the official report, are left out (on purpose?). Instead of that you get pseudo-precise descriptions of technicalities. This is not in line with WP's policy, and not in the interest of our readers. Kind regards, --Gabel1960 (talk) 12:53, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your engagement. May I first remind you of WP:AGF and I look forward to your retraction of your unwarranted claim of concerted action between myself and Wee Curry Monster. I reverted you as you reinserted claims sourced to the German tabloid while giving a different source in your edit summary which is misleading. If you put the claims back into the article but correctly sourced to the Guardian and gave an appropriate edit summary I would not have reverted you. You can still do that. You are also welcome to challenge anything in the article and to add missing information you think is correct or appropriate using reliable sources. Fair enough? Lyndaship (talk) 13:11, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

That's very fair, Lyndaship. I formally retract my hint at the possibility of a concerted action, it has never be a factual claim ("smell" can be rather subjective). Apart from that it has never been my intention to behave in an impolite manner towards you as a person. My impression was you were instrumentalized, but also this is not a claim. I really do not know for sure. It is only very strange to me that you came along after the second revert. In the German WP this happens mostly when somebody is "called in for help". Perhaps in enWP this has become a regular procedure in some sections of WP. I no not know. If this is wrong, I apologize. On the other hand, it is not forbidden to call for help, either. Sometimes it can be done for the wrong reason, that's the point. I will use the Guardian article as you have proposed. Thanks for being so positive. Kind regards, --

Thank you. I don't know the German wiki but here there is such a thing as a watchlist which can be used to notify you of any changes to any article you have placed on it. I tend to add every article I have ever edited to it so your edit appeared then WCM's revert and then your revision hence my interest. There is also a tool which enables an editor to see any articles on which two editors have overlapped on, if you put myself and WCM in I think you will find that we have disagreed on some articles content so no, I'm not his cavalry and there is no collusion. Happy editing Lyndaship (talk) 13:50, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

As Lynda has pointed out, we have often disagreed but have always resolved matters amicably through discussion. The Stern article is utter crap, claiming the ship was lost to a chip pan fire. I have no problem with using the Guardian up to a point but academic sources would be preferable. I don’t think your claim of facts being suppressed is sustainable. Finally I would suggest you should not be editing if you, as you appear to be, are here to right great wrongs.WCM_email 13:47, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

I think the best would be to use the second report. The Stern and the Guardian refer to it, so it must be open to public, but I could not find it on the internet. I am not here to right great wrongs, I was reading something historical, went to the article to get deeper information, and found that, contrary to my expectation, an important part of information was missing. The Stern, by the way, is no tabloid, in the German wikipedia it is a reputable source, not the best one, of course, but acceptable. The Guardian is a reputable source beyond any doubt. If you disagree and think there is different information in academic sources, you can always quote from them. Even better, as I said before, would be the report itself. Kind regards,--Gabel1960 (talk) 23:26, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

[1] It's already linked in the main article. Given the primary source is available, I'd see no need to refer to a German tabloid whose author appears to have plucked the chip pan theory out of thin air (no other source I'm aware of has made such a claim). I'm not sure what you think was missing, since most of what you've referred to was already mentioned. The only detail you've added is the missile penetrated to the galley. Best. WCM_email 12:00, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

I can live without the Stern, if you are happy with the text as it is now, I find nothing to complain, either.Gabel1960 (talk) 12:10, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks, I will look into it. At the moment I see no violation. Was the quote too long? Gabel1960 (talk) 14:32, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

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Hello, thanks for this notification. Can this allegation be more specific? If my contributions are seen like that, why isn|t is discussed on the discussion page of the respective articles? I do have an alternative view on lots of matters, but, as far as I know, inside the limits set by the basic rights of opinion and expression. I am certainly not an unbiased person; I do not know anybody without a perspective, interests and a bias. My political perspective is on the liberal left, not far from Democracy Now. As for Russia and Ukraine I heavily rely on Mearsheimer and Cohen. Wikipedia is a project of mass intelligence to balance out individual deficiencies by the participation of different persons, and the guiding principles is provable facts from reliable sources. Plurality/pluralism are the catchwords here. I don't find the spirit of Wikipedia in such a comment as in the above. Can you be more specific about "noticed repeatedly", by whom, when and in which articles? Gabel1960 (talk) 02:10, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

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