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Sock

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Please look at WP:SOCK and stick to one account. Tyrenius (talk) 02:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Defastenism

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You made this edit that change referenced material and insert original research. Please desist and see WP:V and WP:NOR. Content needs to be referenced. Tyrenius (talk) 02:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Yet again, kindly stop deleting referenced material, altering referenced quotes, and inserting your own unreferenced material. If you carry on like this you are likely to be blocked from editing as a disruptive user. This will apply whatever user name or IP address you edit from. Please discuss things on the article talk page. Tyrenius (talk) 14:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

January 2008

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  This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Defastenism, you will be blocked from editing. freshacconcispeaktome 17:38, 20 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

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Defastenism

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Dear Sir/Madam, Thanks for your information regarding my "vandalism". I'm genuinely sorry that I seem to altering the information currently displayed but much of it is either wrong or biased. Once again,I must remind you that Padraic E.Moore does not wish to be labelled as Christy Moore's son in this context. The Defastenists did not show at the Irish Museum of Modern Art. That was a misprint in Irish Times in which an architectural critic was asked about the cutural highlights of 2006. Several comments were mistakenly combined in the editing process. Furthermore,the information regarding the Celebration on the Guinness estate is reductive and misleading as is much of the description of the groups continued practice. This group of practitioners have effectively been misrepresented by this entry. If I make some changes in the coming weeks and subsantiate them according to sources etc,will they be retained? regards, Franz B

Wikipedia has three core policies: WP:V, WP:NPOV and WP:NOR. This means that all material has to be derived from published secondary sources deemed to be reliable sources, such as published books, mainstream press, authorised web sites (for non-contentious information), and official documents. Blogs, Myspace, Youtube, fan sites and extreme minority texts are not usually acceptable, nor is original research, e.g. your own unpublished, or self-published, essay or research, or your own personal knowledge of a subject. Furthermore, wikipedia does not write what people want to say about themselves: it writes what these sources say.
You imply you are part of the Defastenist group. If so, you should read WP:COI. The fact is that Padraic E. Moore has been labelled as such in the Irish Times and elsewhere I have seen on the net, which makes it problematic, but is something that can be discussed. You should make it clear if you are Padraic E. Moore, which may need to be validated.
We go by sources. Otherwise anyone would be able put anything they felt like in an article. Assuming you are part of the group, I suggest you put a statement on the Defastenism web site correcting the Irish Museum of Modern Art statement. This can then be clarified with a suitable footnote.
The Guinness estate material was from the source. That is mandatory in wikipedia. Again a correction can be referenced from the Defastenist site or other suitable source. Likewise for continuing practice. That does not mean anything sourced will be removed; it means there will be a contrasting view.
Please be specific about comments mistakenly combined. Which ones exactly and what should they have been? Using sources again, that is.
I suggest you put proposed changes and the relevant sources on the article talk page in the first instance, so other editors can assess them and discuss problems. This is the safest method.
Tyrenius (talk) 21:36, 4 February 2008 (UTC)Reply