User talk:Dank/Archive 73

Coronariae

Thankyou for your help on Coronariae, nothing like a fresh pair of eyes. --Michael Goodyear ✐  ✉ 20:04, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

My pleasure entirely. I'm going to start writing some plant species lists and disambiguation pages soon, and I hope I can stop by your talk page with questions if I get stuck. - Dank (push to talk) 21:19, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Backlinks

When you have things like

importScript('User:Ucucha/HarvErrors.js');
importScript('User:Headbomb/unreliable.js');
...
importScript('User:Shubinator/DYKcheck.js'); //DYKcheck tool

in User:Dank/monobook.js, it's best practice to add backlinks like

importScript('User:Ucucha/HarvErrors.js'); // Backlink: [[User:Ucucha/HarvErrors.js]]
importScript('User:Headbomb/unreliable.js'); // Backlink: [[User:Headbomb/unreliable.js]]
...
importScript('User:Shubinator/DYKcheck.js'); //DYKcheck tool, backlink: [[User:Shubinator/DYKcheck.js]]

Having those [[...]] it helps with Special:WhatLinksHere stats. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:00, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Makes sense. I fixed those links. - Dank (push to talk) 23:22, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:33, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Stearn's botanical names (T–Z)/archive1

Hi Dank! I left some initial comments. Hope there is a relatively recent FL of this topic (or similar) that I can compare this one to. Also, for my FLC nom, could I trouble you to place your comments in a "Resolved comments" template, with only the support vote outside? (like ChrisTheDude above, so that it'll be easier to navigate) Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 19:31, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks much! Replying there. - Dank (push to talk) 19:46, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Happy Easter or whatever you celebrate, or: the resurrection of loving-kindness --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

A lot of what usually happens was cancelled today ... maybe next year. Be safe! - Dank (push to talk) 22:25, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

For loving-kindnesses, we shouldn't wait ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:23, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

For the list of botanical name, we could wait. DYK has nothing to with featured of not, - this is not GA. Why should a new article not appear on DYK? - Sorry that I can't help, I had just one attempt at a featured list, unsuccessful, and I never looked again. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:10, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

If you'd rather put it on hold for now, I have no objection. I'm just saying that any solution I come up with won't be quick. - Dank (push to talk) 19:12, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

not a solution methinks --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Not in general, but it's the solution to this problem. I had a bunch of goals, but the top goal is, and was, to create lists like List of Latin and Greek words commonly used in systematic names that could be useful resources for botany editors (because they're longer, with no animals, and more transparently tied to reliable sources). I think the lists will be easier to write and not as burdensome for me if I keep them in my userspace. - Dank (push to talk) 21:48, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

I have it watchlisted there, but who of those for whom it would be useful will find it? - I remember the FAC for Stearn. - Today I expanded an article of a composer to be mentioned on DYK tomorrow (16 Apr, past midnight), found that he was director of Dr. Hoch's (as a friend mine, and Clara Schumann), and succeeded in a five-times expansion ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm not saying they'll never be in article-space, I'm saying they're safer in user-space for now. - Dank (push to talk) 00:55, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Dank, I noticed you deleted the Stearn's botanical names (T–Z) page. I hope you'll reconsider having one of the Stearn's botanical names pages on DYK. The standard for inclusion on DYK is much lower than for FLC, and your pages looked really good. epicgenius (talk) 02:29, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Very kind, thanks. I don't think the format was working; I need to repackage it. - Dank (push to talk) 03:24, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

• (watching) it had gone by the time I woke up. Dank, why, as an ordinary list, did it have to be deleted from articlespace though just because the flc wasn't going well? ——SN54129 09:08, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Okay, here's the deal. There's a possibility that I'll be able to give the WP:FLC people what they want some day, but John and I are focused on the top-level goal here. I'm sure these lists aren't particularly useful for professional botanists, but they provide information for people just starting out (on and off Wikipedia) that isn't available on the web that I know of, and can take a long time to synthesize even for people who have the books. Given what I've seen so far, I'm not willing to put these back into article-space today ... I need more time to survey Wikipedian botany editors about their preferences, and to adjust the pages accordingly, and to line up support for the changes. (And John and I need more time to complete the pages.) FLC (or GAN, if I repackage the information) could conceivably play a role in the future, but for now, my preference would be that these lists stay in my user-space. As Walter White might say, this is not an anyone-can-edit-type-deal, not yet. - Dank (push to talk) 16:08, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Dank. I had a looksee but was unable to find the original FLC discussion, so am unsure how I can further contribute. The list looks fine to me -the format of the table contains the right columns IMO, the referencing is comprehensive, the sources are what I consider authoritative, prose/grammar is good, reason for making the list seems coherent, info seems notable to me, I use a different style of referencing but this is not an issue.... certainly good enough list for mainspace if not FL, but we talked about that already and the last comment above is also about the same, as far as this is concerned it is your show. I might personally not immediately have a reason for linking to it, but that might change, and others might. For context, perfection according to one set of editors is not really an important issue IMO: yesterday I saw a huge article in which Wikipedia is seriously advocating on behalf of the manifesto of a group of white kids who claim they are plotting the immediate commencement of global genocide of most people on earth using a clandestine network of independent cells, as well as give animals, fungi, bacteria and plants the franchise to vote, everything cited to their blog, with a high rating. Aside from the glossed-over logistic challenges of getting the plants to the polls and making sure the amoebas have enough tiny red pencils to grasp in their cute pseudopodia, it seems not exactly egalitarian around here when if a bunch of brown kids want to use Wikipedia to promote a clandestine network set up to kill only a fraction of humankind, suddenly a whole other set of rules and categories apply, insh'allah. In other words, compared to this I am now snowblind as to any imperfections in your otherwise fine work. Regards, Leo Breman (talk) 13:57, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Perfect, I'll ping you the next time there's a review process for one of these lists. Hell, I'll ping you the next time I need a character witness :) - Dank (push to talk) 14:04, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Epicgenius, things have turned around faster than I expected, and Stearn's botanical names (S) will be ready for mainspace and hopefully DYK in a few days. Thanks kindly for dropping by to ask about Stearn's botanical names (T–Z), and if you want to include that as a twofer with (S), that will be fine, your call. - Dank (push to talk) 11:27, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Dank, thanks for letting me know. I'll be glad to review Stearn's botanical names (S) when you nominate it. epicgenius (talk) 13:11, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

... and today Le Concert Spirituel --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Gratz. - Dank (push to talk) 20:19, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

... and today Credo, or this is the day from Psalm 118. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:57, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Grade II* listed buildings in Monmouthshire

Dank, the list made it without me having to call in the favour, but the offer was very much appreciated. Thanks and regards. KJP1 (talk) 21:18, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Fantastic. Btw, my list is having trouble getting off the ground ... suggestions and complaints are welcome. - Dank (push to talk) 22:24, 12 April 2020 (UTC)