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Campus Antiwar Network

Would it be possible for you to update the CAN article, it is over a year old and many of my friends have been curious about recent activities

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You may be interested: David MacMichael one of the Veterans for sanity is up for deletion. 68.91.252.148 18:34, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

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Can you please assist with American Empire it is terrible now--a bloated relic of a once really good article. 68.91.253.194 05:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

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International Socialist Organization financial information

DKalkin,

Thank you for your patience with the recent edits I made to the International Socialist Organization entry. I have now provided links to the CERSC website as well as the 2006 IRS 990 tax form for the organization.

I believe this information to be highly relevant as the ISO tries to obscure this publicly available information from its critics (opponents on both the left and the right of the political spectrum) as well as its own members. As a former member for over two years I can attest to this. The Center repeatedly denied my requests for financial information as a dues paying member of the ISO and it only recently came to my attention that this is publicly available information.

People have a right to know where an organization that claims to represent the working class attains its funding. Mercifully, I have not highlighted the hypocrisy inherent in its source of funding, but the organization has published articles in the past that have been critical of Philip Morris among other corporations, yet they continue to invest in this firm.

This is also information that should be made available to party members who are continually called upon to sell literature on behalf of the organization, which generates a great deal of revenue for the Center, but are not paid for their efforts. Instead, a select few party organizers profit, as I have outlined in my proposed edits. Members of the ISO are also pressured (on pain of ostracism or even expulsion from branch meetings) into paying 10% of their total income to the Center in the form of membership dues.

I feel that we would be doing both opponents and members of the ISO a tremendous service by allowing a section on financial information to exist in the Wikipedia entry. I have put forth no criticism or propaganda in my edits, only a few basic facts. The way to a clear view of any political organization's true nature is often found by following the money trail. Imagine, for instance, an entry on Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign that made no mention of campaign finance matters or funding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sysoctopus (talk • contribs) 01:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I've responded regarding the Wikipedia article on the International Socialist Organization talk page. Here I just want to add a few comments regarding the off-line issues you raise.

• The ISO has a policy of need-to-know with regard to detailed financial and membership information for security reasons. It is, after all, a self-described revolutionary organization, so I'm not sure why this is surprising.
• Philip Morris is an ugly corporation, even uglier than the average, but I'm not sure what a better option for the ISO was once offered a donation in its stock. Refuse the desperately-needed funding to maintain its moral purity?
• A substantial portion of ISO revenue goes to pay a "select few" organizers because those organizers work full-time for the ISO and require some source of income. I know some of these people; they're not living large. They're working a lot more than 40 hours a week for a cause they believe in.
• I have never experienced anything like the threat of ostracism or expulsion from meetings regarding dues - and I do not pay 10% of my income. Nor have I seen this pressure applied to anyone else.
• The ISO is not so foolishly arrogant as to claim to 'represent' the working class. It is not a vanguard party; it merely attempts to play a part in building the foundation for a party which can genuinely claim to represent the vanguard of the class.

Kalkin (talk) 04:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Dkalkin:

I appreciate your attempts at objectivity as well as your willingness to admit a vested interest due to the fact that you are actually a party member. It sounds as if your experiences with party leadership have either been nonexistent or directly opposite to my own.

While your apparent honesty strikes me as noble, and I feel certain you are a decent enough fellow, I must express skepticism over the prospect of any ISO member, regardless of her/his amount of ethical fiber, being allowed to supervise this entry. That's like hiring Winona Rider as head of store security, giving Dracula keys to the blood bank, or appointing Henry Kissinger chair of the 9/11 Commission. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sysoctopus (talk • contribs) 05:23, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Recent edits to Rashid Khalidi wiki

Thank you making those edits to the Rashid Khalidi wiki. I've tried to make some edits earlier about those "criticisms", but other members started to send me warning messages about NPOV. Being new to the wiki system I got a little nervous about any possible ramifications so I tried to "tiptoe" around the subject. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.230.150 (talk) 23:50, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Runtshit

Thank you for your message of solidarity. The attacks have been going on for 18 months now, in which time Runtshit and his various avatars have made well over 2500 malicious edits to more than 400 Wikipedia articles, using (so far) 461 different IDs. The background is actually hostility not towards Marxism, but towards anti-Zionism. I am a relatively high-profile anti-Zionist Jew, and the person identifired as "Runtshit" (though his first non-IP edit was apparently in the name of "Fumigate") has taken strong exception to this. Most of his vandalism is directed at articles on the Middle East, rather than on Trotskyism. As well as the Runtshit vandalism, he seems to operate as Truthprofessor to defend Steven Plaut, a far-right business studies lecturer in Israel with a history of libels against anti-Zionists; as Borisyy to attack Neve Gordon, an Israeli left-wing academic who has won a libel action against Plaut, and as Zuminous to arrack Barry Chamish, an even further-right Israeli writer and conspiracy theorist who has a long-standing feud with Plaut. Since the edits appear to be made using an anonynmiser to access proxy services, Wikipedia seems to be powerless to prevent these attacks.

The references to "Tony" would appear to be a reference to my friend and comrade Tony Greenstein, with the implication that I operate under his control and need him to dictate my every move and thought. Nothing could be further from the truth, as he and countless others would confirm. RolandR (talk) 21:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Oy. 18 months - this is a person with some real problems. It sounds like only real-world exposure would avail to stop this - I'd say this behavior for this period of time justifies violation of anonymity, but for better or worse we don't have that ability.

I spend a fair amount of time myself defending articles like Joseph Massad, Nadia Abu El Haj, and Rashid Khalidi from WP:BLP violations by particularly unscrupulous Zionists. I'm glad none of them appears to have attracted this character's attention!

Kalkin (talk) 22:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

He's clearly stalking me, and most articles I edit attract his attention very soon. I haven't so far edited any of these, so it's unlikely that he will attack them; but look at the history of, for instance, Uri Davis, Norman Finkelstein or Uri Avnery to see this character at work. RolandR (talk) 23:19, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Neutrality and sourcing

You selectively removed the critical reviews from the Facts onthe Ground page, so I looked at your contributions to see who you are and there you were, taking the word "liberal" off Leon Wieseltier's page with the snide remark. "remove unsourced and doubtful description". A fair-minded editor would have put ou one of those {citation needed} tags. a truly generous one would go and find the citation. Fan613 (talk) 20:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)Fan613

Forgive my assumption. However, you took down Jacob Lassner's review, Lassner is a major scholar of Islam, at Northwestern University, writing in an academic journal the Middle East Quarterly, which is political, but well-regarded. The thing is you did not take down the review from the MIT Electronic Journal of Middle East Studies. You do know that Abu el Haj is on the board of directors of this journal, yes? And that it is probably more partisan and, certainly, less respected than the Middle East Quarterly. Quite objectively so in terms of the calibre of scholars who write for it. That is, while everyone writing for the Middle East Quarterly believes in the right of Israel to exist and, as far as I can tell in a brief perusal, everyone writing for the MIT Electronic Journal of Middle East Studies denies that Israel has that right, the MEQ regularly published well-established scholars like Lassner, while MIT Electronic Journal of Middle East Studies self-describes as a venue for young scholars. Moreover, you did not take down the H-net review. H-net is an idea that, a few discussion groups excepted, has not worke out. Even at its peak, however, the reviewers were (and largely still are) graduate students. Not scholars of Lassner's stature, although they may be so someday. 160.39.35.14 (talk) 21:06, 30 April 2008 (UTC)Fan613

I know basically nothing about either H-Net or the MIT Electronic Journal of Middle East Studies, though I believe the latter's apparent association with MIT gives it some default credibility. MEQ is published by the Middle East Forum, the openly partisan think tank run by Daniel Pipes (a rather hysterical and credulous figure), and I do not believe it is well regarded among scholars who do not share Pipes' politics. I would rather remove all three reviews than keep all three, though I would like more reason to believe the MIT publication is not a genuine academic journal before barring it, perhaps an off-Wikipedia source on the subject. Kalkin (talk) 21:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio

Please see diff, unless I am missing something it looks like a short quote of a person is the potential copyvio, these are generally allowed. If I am missing something, please point me to the specific text you believe is copyvio. Jeepday (talk) 02:00, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification - reviewed at Talk:Ica stones, let me know if missed anything else. Jeepday (talk) 11:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Blog on Khalidi

Hi. In general, I would agree with you that Martin Kramer's blog is included in the exception in WP:RS, and should be allowed, and I actually restored the material. However, while double-checking the appropriate policies and guidelines, as they are currently formulated, there is a rider in both WP:RS and WP:V that prohibits self-published, third-party sources from being used in any biographical article, so I was forced to revert myself and I believe the Kramer reference is not allowed under current guidelines. I've made a note of this on Talk:Rashid Khalidi with wikilinks to the pertinent guidelines. Thank you. -- Avi (talk) 23:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

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Daniel Pipes

I see your point, although I do believe his work to suggest Obama was a Muslim and had an association with Khalidi (whom he argues was employed by a terrorist organization) merits a separate paragraph or section. I'll see if I can find reliable sources that suggest that the notability of this perspective warrants that. Ghalibshah (talk) 16:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

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Hi - I was hoping to ask for your guidance. I'm a member of the ISO, and our page has recently been vandalized with the posting of erroneous financial information (similar to information you've deleted/had discussions about in the past.) We've since deleted the information and are hoping to make sure this doesn't become a constant back-and-forth.

We'd like to keep the page accurate, free of distortions (without turning it into some kind of ad--that's not our intention). I was wondering if you have any tips for dealing with this kind of vandalism, if there's anything we should know about the process, etc.

Any tips you can offer would be appreciated, thanks! Nicole.colson (talk) 06:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

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Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are opening in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 1 September). A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:51, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting opening soon!

Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election opens in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 15 September) and will last through 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Correction to previous election announcement

Just a quick correction to the prior message about the 2022 MILHIST coordinator election! I (Hog Farm) didn't proofread the message well enough and left out a link to the election page itself in this message. The voting will occur here; sorry about the need for a second message and the inadvertent omission from the prior one. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting closing soon

Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election closes soon, at 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. The voting itself is occurring here If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:13, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

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Please remove the template at the top of the page if you return to editing. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 03:33, 24 October 2023 (UTC)