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Articles for deletion nomination of Cymatic Theology

I have nominated Cymatic Theology, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cymatic Theology. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

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Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages, as you did with Cymatic Theology. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Thank you. WWGB (talk) 10:23, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

December 2009

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Cymatic Theology

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Speedy deletion nomination of Cymatic Theology

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A tag has been placed on Cymatic Theology requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

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The page has been moved User:Cosmikos/Cymatic Theology. Since you say it's not ready yet, work on it there, in your userspace, and then get suggestions from other users before posting. — Timneu22 · talk 14:42, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Cymatic Theology for deletion, Conflict of interest

The article Cymatic Theology is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cymatic Theology (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:49, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

I have explained my concerns about this article at the AfD page, which is, of course, linked above. In the course of evaluating, I noticed that you assert that you are closely related to the originator of this term. There may be a conflict in your editing articles relates to Dr. Pretorius or his research. Please read through our conflict of interest guidelines to be sure that your work on Wikipedia complies. Thank you. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:10, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Dr Pretorius is a well established researcher in many areas of science and theology. I am not sure why you are concerned? It has also met the necessary criteria that was a concern with the previous evaluators. As to the relationship, I am also not sure why this would be a problem? We work in several fields of research, as do others. The idea is that this field is becoming extremely well received, and there is currently a website being built by a number of contributors on this.

I further encourage you to look at the links regarding his work. He is well established as a lecturer, and a prolific writer. I am not sure what more can be done?

Cosmikos (talk) 16:08, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

If you are unsure why your relationship may be a problem, please review Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest, and especially the section on "Close relationships". In terms of the article, I have explained my issues at the "articles for deletion" discussion. Wikipedia is not intended to publish original research. We exist to summarize what reliable sources have previously said about notable subjects. If these sources do not yet exist, then the article should not be on Wikipedia at this time. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:50, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice.

Your concern is that this may be original research, therefore not suitable for a wiki page. The page does not refer to any work being original. What the page does infer is that Pretorius has used the term Cymatic Theology to explain what is regarded as revised research, to include aspects of God using sound to create, just as the Hindus refer to OM (see wiki) as the creative sound God used. The following references definitely show that this is not original research, but slightly revised, to include subsequent information. The following articles are just a few examples of the research in this area (there are dozens). It includes two good pages on sound and creation from wiki pages. http://www.5thray.com/tunes.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Om http://convozine.com/conversations/6023 http://www.ratemyink.com/?action=ssp&pid=103589 Extensive work has been done on this by John Stuart Reid and the Cymascope http://cymascope.com/cyma_research/history.html Dr Pretorius is in constant contact with John on this, and he has recently reviewed one of Pretorius’s articles on this.

Thanks, Cosmikos (talk) 18:58, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Just for the record, original research in the Wikipedia refers to the method you employed to obtain the content for your article. If for example I stated that that 2,000 cars per hour drive across Westminster Bridge, and I know because I stood there and counted them, that would be original research. Perhaps you can also leave the personal asides out of your comments - they are not appropriate in a deletion debate, they are not appreciated by the regular Wikipedia community, and they will probably not advance your cause. Kudpung (talk) 17:02, 4 February 2011 (UTC)