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Wikidata weekly summary #438

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Tool of the week
    • Prepbio tool uses Wikidata to create the beginnings of a Wikipedia stub biography article. (2020-10-19)
  • Development
    • Blocked users trying to create new Items no longer make us skip QIDs (phab:T232620)
    • So far we don't have JSON dumps for Lexemes. We're working on regularly generating them as well now (phab:T264883)
    • Continuing work on getting the Query Builder to generate the first query. Almost there.
    • Started the feedback round for the REST API. Please provide your input if you are currently using the action API or plan to develop against Wikidata's API in the future.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Tech News: 2020-43

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 October. It will be on all wikis from 22 October (calendar).

Future changes

  • You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on 27 October around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [1]
  •   In the AbuseFilter extension, the rmspecials() function will be updated soon so that it does not remove the "space" character. Wikis are advised to wrap all the uses of rmspecials() with rmwhitespace() wherever necessary to keep filters' behavior unchanged. You can use the search function on Special:AbuseFilter to locate its usage. [2]
  • Some gadgets and user-scripts use the HTML div with the ID #jump-to-nav. This div will be removed soon. Maintainers should replace these uses with either #siteSub or #mw-content-text. A list of affected scripts is at the top of phab:T265373.

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16:30, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Siege of Jerusalem under Titus

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For Sack of Magdeburg, ‎the siege of Jerusalem under Titus led to Jerusalem being ruined and utterly sacked by the Romans. I think thats what he means when he says "It is certain that no more terrible work and divine punishment has been seen since the Destruction of Jerusalem." --2001:8003:59DB:4100:D4A6:C6A0:FF0:2892 (talk) 05:56, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

thankyou for your reply on my talkpage. I had thought it referenced the sack under Titus, but unless I see anything concrete on it, I'll take your word on it for 1099 AD. 2001:8003:59DB:4100:D4A6:C6A0:FF0:2892 (talk) 06:38, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #439

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Events
    • Past: Providing sustainable data services through Wikibase and Wikidata, SEMIC Conference 2020 - (replay)
    • Past: Introduction to Wikidata by Frimelle, Software Freedom Kosova 2020 - (replay)
    • Past: What's new in Wikidata? by Lea Lacroix, Lydia Pintscher and Mattia Capozzi, ItWikiCon 2020 - (replay)
    • Ongoing: plenty of Wikidata birthday events, online and onsite! Here's an overview of the upcoming events, you can find the links and details in the main calendar.
      • WikiCite virtual conference on October 26-28, live-streamed on Youtube and Twitter, with sessions across many timezones and languages – English, French, German, Indonesian, and Portuguese.
      • Wikidata Education Week, online, on October 26-30
      • 24-hours online meetup, on October 28-29: an open discussion with plenty of community members facilitating exchange around the topic "what makes you enthusiastic about Wikidata"
      • Gene Wiki: how to synchronize and curate primary sources with and in Wikidata, online, on October 29th
      • Birthday celebration in Rennes, France, on October 29th
      • Birthday Celebration in Accra, Ghana, and online, on October 29th
    • Upcoming: Wikidata & Wikibase office hour, October 27th at 17:00 CET (16:00 GMT)
    • Upcoming: live SPARQL queries on Twitch and in French by Vigneron, October 27 at 18:00 CET
  • Tool of the week
    • WikibaseJS-cli allows to edit Wikidata from command line, including creating items from samples ("templates") and do complex transformations of statements
  • Development
    • Got the Query Builder to create the first simple queries. You can follow along the development from now on on the test system.
    • Preparing regular JSON dumps for Lexemes (phab:T264883)
    • Analyzed a number of queries to the query service together with the WMF search team to better understand what the queries are doing and what further optimizations we can make to the query service and which queries need different systems to answer them.
    • Working on creating and tracking implicit usages of Wikidata descriptions so description changes show up in the watchlist on Wikipedia and co (phab:T265897)
    • Created Extension:WikibaseManifest documentation on MediaWiki.
    • Looking into what would be considered a mismatch when comparing WIkidata's data against another database. This is groundwork for potentially automating this in the future to find potential issues in the data to flag to editors.
    • Working on deploying the new Item quality scoring model for ORES to production so we have improved quality scores
    • Finished investigating how to handle a restricted list of external Wikibase services. (phab:T265118)
    • Removed noratelimit on bots for wikidata.org (phab:T258354)
    • Published Easier Access for Programmers to Wikidata research report

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Tech News: 2020-44

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on October 27 around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [3]
  • Last week, links to "diffs" from mobile watchlists and recentchanges were linking to page-revisions instead of diffs. This has now been fixed. [4]

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • Since the introduction of the interface administrators user group in 2018, administrators couldn’t view the deleted history of CSS/JS pages. Now they can. [5]
  • There was a problem with the Change Tags. The software would apply the "Reverted" tag to any page actions such as page-protection changes if they came directly after a reverted edit. This has now been fixed for new edits. [6]
  • The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias in November. Another announcement will be made once the date is finalized. [7]

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17:37, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

The Signpost: 1 November 2020

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Tech News: 2020-45

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can no longer read Wikimedia wikis if your browser uses very old TLS. This is because it is a security problem for everyone. It could lead to downgrade attacks. Since October 29, 2020, users who use old TLS versions will not be able to connect to Wikimedia projects. A list of browser recommendations is available. All modern operating systems and browsers are always able to reach Wikimedia projects. [8]
  •   There is a new automatic tracking category available: Pages with non-numeric formatnum arguments. It collects pages which use the {{formatnum}} parser function with invalid (non-numeric) input, e.g. {{formatnum:TECHNEWS}}. Note that {{formatnum:123,456}} is also invalid input: as described in the documentation, the argument should be unformatted so that it can be reliably and correctly localised. The tracking category will help identify problematic usage and double-formatting. The new tracking category's name can be translated at translatewiki. [9]

Changes later this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 3. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 4. It will be on all wikis from November 5 (calendar).
  • Administrators and stewards will be able to use a special page (Special:CreateLocalAccount) to force local account creation for a global account. This is useful when account creation is blocked for that user (by a block or a filter). [10]
  • The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias on November 4. This change excludes the English, Russian, and German-language Wikipedias, plus a few smaller Wikipedias with special circumstances. You can read the help page and the troubleshooting guide for more information. [11]

Future changes

  • A discussion has been restarted about using a Unicode minus sign (− U+2212) in the output of {{formatnum}} when it is given a negative argument. [12]
  • In the future IP addresses of unregistered users will not be shown for everyone. They will get an alias instead. There will be a new user right or an opt-in function for more vandal fighters to see the IPs of unregistered users. There would be some criteria for who gets the user right or opt-in. There will also be other new tools to help handle vandalism. This is early in the process and the developers are still collecting information from the communities before they suggest solutions.

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16:07, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #440

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
    • Open request for adminship: Hasley (RfP scheduled to end after 2 November 2020 17:23 UTC)
  • Events
    • Past: Wikidata & Wikibase office hour, October 27 (notes)
    • Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Arthur Smith and Daniel Mietchen discussing author items in Wikidata and the Author Disambiguator Tool, 3 November. Agenda
    • Upcoming: Online Wikidata editathon in Swedish #37, November 8
    • Upcoming: live SPARQL queries on Twitch and in French by Vigneron, November 3 at 18:00 CET
This is 32 hours of video covering 85 individual presentations in 7 languages.
1266 "unique viewers" have watched some portion on YouTubeSince the conference began last Monday.
  • Tool of the week
    • reCH is a Wikidata anti-vandalism tool that is used to review edits and patrol new changes.
  • Development
    • Fixing the issue of `content was: ""` (empty string) when deleting Lexemes (phab:T263435)
    • Final steps for deployment of JSON dumps for Lexeme (phab:T264883)
    • Working on fixing an issue with adding statements with datatype mathematical formula (phab:T266673)
    • The Query Builder can now generate its first very simple query and show the result. You can follow along as we develop it at the demo system.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Wikidata weekly summary #441

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Tool of the week
    • Template:Cite Q on Wikipedia makes it easier to use Wikidata items as Wikipedia references.
  • Development
    • Continuing work with the WMF search team to automatically categorize WDQS queries to see how they can better be served
    • Query Builder work is continuing. Next step is making it possible to create a query with an arbitrary Property instead of the currently hard-coded post code.
    • Feedback round for the REST API is finishing this week and then we will review all the feedback and make changes to the spec accordingly.
    • Preparing to release 1.35 version of Wikibase docker image (phab:T264538)
    • Fixed Math extension to not require JS parser which caused issues creating new Statements for mathematical formulae (phab:T266673)
    • Made sure there is a meaningful edit summary when deleting a Lexeme (phab:T263435)

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Tech News: 2020-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • You can see reference previews. This shows a preview of the footnote when you hover over it. This has been a beta feature. It will move out of beta and be enabled by default. There will be an option not to use it. The developers are looking for small or medium-sized wikis to be the first ones. You can let them know if your wiki is interested. [13]
  • From November 16 the categories will not be sorted in order for a short time. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the internationalisation library. They will use a script to fix the existing categories. This can take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [14][15]

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15:49, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-47

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Listings on category pages are sorted on each wiki for that language using a library. For a brief period on 16 November, changes to categories will not be sorted correctly for most languages. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the library. They will then use a script to fix the existing categories. This will take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [16][17]

Changes later this week

  • If you merged two pages in a namespace where pages can't redirect this used to break the merge history. This will now be fixed. [18]
  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 November. It will be on all wikis from 19 November (calendar).

Future changes

  • The Community Wishlist Survey is now open for proposals. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 16 to 30 November. You can vote on proposals from 8 December to 21 December.

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15:36, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #442

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Tool of the week
    • ALEC (A List of Everything Cool) is a tool to explore biodiversity content in Wikidata.
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • Join the upcoming #1Lib1Ref Wikipedia campaign from January 15th to February 5th 2021 and improve Wikidata items by adding references to statements.
  • Development
    • Added "Random lexeme" link under dedicated section for lexicographical data in the Wikidata sidebar (phab:T205525). Thanks to Matěj Suchánek!
    • Working on language/spelling variant selector bug on Special:NewItem and Special:NewLexeme that makes it difficult to continue creating Items or Lexemes (phab:T266638)
    • Work on the Query Builder continues. We're focusing on making it possible to query for all Items with a specific Property but any value next.
    • Went over all the feedback we have received for the REST API specification draft. Overall the feedback is positive and really useful. So we will move ahead after thinking more about the remaining points that were raised.
    • Working on making changes to descriptions show up in the RecentChanges feed and watchlists on Wikipedia and co as well even if they are not explicitly used (phab:T191831)
    • Fixed a problem adding statements with Properties of datatype mathematical formula (phab:T266496)
    • Kicked off our new effort to implement a predictable release cycle and release infrastructure for Wikibase suite by creating a prototype build workflow (phab:T267553) and prototype test workflow (phab:T267554)

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Books & Bytes – Issue 41

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Issue 41, September – October 2020

  • New partnership: Taxmann
  • WikiCite
  • 1Lib1Ref 2021

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December 2020 Guild of Copy Editors Newsletter

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2020 Newsletter
 
 

Hello and welcome to the December GOCE newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since September 2020.

                 Current and upcoming events

Election time: our end-of-year Election of Coordinators opened for nominations on 1 December and will close on 15 December at 23:59 (UTC). Voting opens at 00:01 the following day and will continue until 31 December at 23:59, just before Auld Lang Syne. Coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought of helping out at the Guild, or know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here.

December Blitz: This will run from 13 to 19 December, and will target all Requests. Sign up now.

Drive and Blitz reports

September Drive: 67 fewer articles had copy-edit templates by this month's close. Of the 27 editors who signed up, 15 copy-edited at least one article, and 124 articles were claimed for the drive.

October Blitz: this ran from 18 to 24 October, and focused on articles tagged for copy-edit in July and August 2020, and all Requests. Of the 13 who signed up, 11 editors copy-edited at least one article. 21 articles were claimed for the blitz.

November Drive: Of the 18 editors who signed up, 15 copy-edited at least one article, and together claimed 134 articles. At the close of the drive, 67 fewer articles were in the backlog and we had dealt with 39 requests.

Other news

Progress report: As of 09:05, 3 December 2020 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors had processed 663 requests (18 from 2019) since 1 January and there were 52 requests awaiting completion on the Requests page. The backlog of articles tagged for copy-editing stood at 494 (see monthly progress graph above).

Annual Report for 2020: this roundup of the year's activity at the Guild is planned for publication in late January or early February.

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Seasonal tidings and cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978, Puddleglum2.0, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist.

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Editing news 2021 #1

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Reply tool

 
Completion rates for comments made with the Reply tool and full-page wikitext editing. Details and limitations are in this report.

The Reply tool is available at most other Wikipedias.

  • The Reply tool has been deployed as an opt-out preference to all editors at the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedias.
  • It is also available as a Beta Feature at almost all Wikipedias except for the English, Russian, and German-language Wikipedias. If it is not available at your wiki, you can request it by following these simple instructions.

Research notes:

  • As of January 2021, more than 3,500 editors have used the Reply tool to post about 70,000 comments.
  • There is preliminary data from the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedia on the Reply tool. Junior Contributors who use the Reply tool are more likely to publish the comments that they start writing than those who use full-page wikitext editing.[19]
  • The Editing and Parsing teams have significantly reduced the number of edits that affect other parts of the page. About 0.3% of edits did this during the last month.[20] Some of the remaining changes are automatic corrections for Special:LintErrors.
  •   A large A/B test will start soon.[21] This is part of the process to offer the Reply tool to everyone. During this test, half of all editors at 24 Wikipedias (not including the English Wikipedia) will have the Reply tool automatically enabled, and half will not. Editors at those Wikipeedias can still turn it on or off for their own accounts in Special:Preferences.

New discussion tool

 
Screenshot of version 1.0 of the New Discussion Tool prototype.

The new tool for starting new discussions (new sections) will join the Discussion tools in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures at the end of January. You can try the tool for yourself.[22] You can leave feedback in this thread or on the talk page.

Next: Notifications

 

During Talk pages consultation 2019, editors said that it should be easier to know about new activity in conversations they are interested in. The Notifications project is just beginning. What would help you become aware of new comments? What's working with the current system? Which pages at your wiki should the team look at? Please post your advice at mw:Talk:Talk pages project/Notifications.

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Books & Bytes - Issue 42

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Books & Bytes
Issue 42, November – December 2020

  • New EBSCO collections now available
  • 1Lib1Ref 2021 underway
  • Library Card input requested
  • Libraries love Wikimedia, too!

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Pope shortdescs

Latest comment: 3 years ago6 comments2 people in discussion

If you're going to import and replace all the popes' shortdescs, perhaps you should establish some consensus to standardize them and make them standard instead of doing 260+ articles ad hoc?? Elizium23 (talk) 01:54, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Elizium23 Don't worry. I saw your earlier message. I will leave well alone other than to add papal tenure if it is missing. (Hopefully that is OK.) I will keep the existing format. I have no desire to start a major change exercise. My main desire is to ensure each Wikipedia article I look at has a short description and that the short description is consistent with the short description on Wikidata. Chewings72 (talk) 02:04, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
I would hope that the short descriptions be consistent with one another, and I don't really care about what's on Wikidata. That's the whole point of moving away from it. Elizium23 (talk) 02:09, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Elizium23 Excuse my confusion, but I thought the whole idea behind the introduction of short descriptions was to create some consistency of brief descriptions between Wikipedia and Wikidata. Be that as it may, to avoid any future issues regarding consistency, can you tell me what you see as the preferred format for Wikipedia short descriptions for the popes. Thanks Chewings72 (talk) 02:20, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Chewings72, I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Catholicism#Short description proposal Elizium23 (talk) 02:22, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Excellent. Thank you. Chewings72 (talk) 02:24, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

your edits with Provelt

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On 27 January you edited King Khalid page with Provelt, but this tool uses only "last" parameter for the authors in the refs. So please review your work after you use it, thanks. --Egeymi (talk) 09:20, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Egeymi I did not realise that. Thank you for the advice.Chewings72 (talk) 10:04, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

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Correct it

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Heyyy why did you removed my words? In buddha and arniko? Buddha was born in lumbini (present nepal) And arniko spread pagoda style architecture Ananta5421 (talk) 12:15, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Ananta5421 Please read the discussions on the Buddha article talk page regarding the possible birth place of Buddha. There is no consensus supporting your view. Chewings72 (talk) 00:42, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

No everyone knows Buddha's birthplace but they don't want to write nepal they write lumbini yes lumbini is in nepal buy it's written like this 'buddha was born in lumbini and he spend his life in ancient india' indirectly again people will think buddha was born in india Ananta5421 (talk) 01:10, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Same goes in pagoda style you have write stupa is the inspiration of pagoda what is the proof?it's a myth which is famous here too but maybe you can write myth 'pagoda style originated from stupa style of india' Ananta5421 (talk) 01:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

And yes why don't you search about ashoka piller ashoka was an indian king he knew later his indian people will try to fake Buddha's birth place so he made a piller tha says buddha was born here in lumbini (nepal) Ananta5421 (talk) 01:14, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Ananta5421 Please read: Wikipedia:Gautama Buddha Birthplace sources and quotes Chewings72 (talk) 11:06, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes he was born in lumbini According to wikipedia which is correct but lumbini is in nepal Ananta5421 (talk) 11:07, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

He traveled whole indian sub continent mostly to india so he stayed in India more but he was born in lumbini nepal Ananta5421 (talk) 11:08, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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Awkward short descriptions for Roman gentes

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Please stop adding "Families from Ancient Rome who shared Foo nomen" as a short description in articles about Roman gentes. This is awkward and confusing—it suggests that gentes were random collocations of unrelated families that just happened to share a name by some coincidence. Roman gentes were families, in the broad sense—not collections of unrelated families. I understand you're getting this from Wikidata—but whoever wrote that in Wikidata obviously didn't know what they were doing. The best short description to use here is "Ancient Roman family", without any circumlocution about multiple families sharing nomina. P Aculeius (talk) 06:44, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

P Aculeius OK. I will do as you suggest. Chewings72 (talk) 09:02, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. Sorry if I sounded hostile, was on edge a bit due to a couple of negative interactions with other editors. Your edits are very welcome—this one just needs to be adjusted. P Aculeius (talk) 16:15, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
P Aculeius That's fine. Thank you.  :) Chewings72 (talk) 00:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Life-span dates in short descriptions

Latest comment: 3 years ago6 comments3 people in discussion

Is there a reason you're adding these? I've never seen life-span dates in short descriptions before, is there is new advisory to do this? It doesn't seem to me to be necessary of there's nothing to disambiguate. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Beyond My Ken Thank you for your comments. I have been adding life span information (either actual dates or relevant century information) for some time. I started doing this after I noted there were existing short descriptions for biography articles where life span dates had been included. I believe that they are helpful to Wikipedia readers as, along with brief descriptions of occupation(s) and nationality, life-span dates concisely inform the reader as to when the individual lived - a useful piece of information. I am of the view that for the few extra characters required, it is a worthwhile addition to biography short descriptions. I have read the Wikipedia short description help and guidance pages and, unless I missed something, I don't see anything explicit there that precludes adding dates. I do my best to keep all short descriptions as brief as possible consistent with the guidance on this topic. I also ensure that I export the revised short description to Wikidata to maintian consistency between the Wikipedia and Wikidata. Chewings72 (talk) 05:58, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:10, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Dear Chewings72, I too have some concerns with your work on short descriptions. The guideline (WP:HOWTOSD) says "be brief: aim for no more than about 40 characters (but this can be exceeded when necessary)", but it seems that your descriptions are systematically longer, and very often much longer than about 40 characters. Do you actually check how it looks on a smart phone? Apaugasma (talk|contribs) 12:41, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Beyond My Ken Apaugasma It is an interesting challenge to get what I consider to be the basic relevant information into a short description without exceeding 40 characters. I notice that there was a major debate over including dates (which is what I have been primarily doing) on the talk page of Wikipedia:Short description back in late 2020 where a wide range of views were expressed on the subject (and no clear consensus reached). Further reading of the project page for short descriptions (and its talk page) suggest to me that there is a lack of any clear consensus from the Wikipedia community on balancing content with length. Given recent concerns raised about my efforts to improve short descriptions and fill in missing descriptions, I think I will cease for the time being making any more additions and amendments and see how the ongoing debates on the content and formatting of Wikipedia short descriptions pan out. There is plenty of other work and improvements I can still do on Wikipedia articles on which I can better use by time. Thanks Chewings72 (talk) 09:49, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Yes, it's difficult to get them under, or even at around, 40 characters. If that guideline is to stay, it would probably be better to leave the writing up of short descriptions to the editors who work on the articles themselves, since they ought to have a better feel for what is essential. Anyways, as you say, there's plenty more work to be done around here, so thank you for that. Apaugasma (talk|contribs) 13:58, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

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Hello brother, I noticed that you returned my article. I have modified some words such as (Bedouin) for the word Arabs. Also, I deleted the word Najd because it is incorrect, so we find a region in Saudi Arabia that has no relation to the history of the Arabs. The history of the Arabs is related to the Hijaz and Yemen only Samlaxcs (talk) 11:55, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

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You can see the right map of Qing, attention Guizhou and Guangxi, the map of yellow river also

103.157.251.2 You have not provided a valid or clear explanation for your change to the map. Chewings72 (talk) 12:57, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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Short descriptions

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The discussion at wikipedia talk:Short descriptions talks about the implications of exceeding the limit. In some contexts, the excess is simply discarded. Personally, I think that the limit is generally too small to be useful - see wikipedia talk:Short descriptions#Conclusion - but that's the current policy. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 14:37, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

John Maynard Friedman As a regular editor adding or correcting short descriptions to articles, I understand the alleged implications of not staying within 40 characters. I try to keep my suggestions within 40 characters, but sometimes it is hard to do so while sufficiently capturing the essence of the article's topic. So I strongly endorse your conclusions (as per your link) regarding short description limitations. Regards Chewings72 (talk) 08:18, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. As I assume you saw from the discussion thread, I was in a minority of one at the time. So please add your support there so that evidence can be built over time that there is a demand for change. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 08:40, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
John Maynard FriedmanHappy to support your efforts when next the opportunity arises. I had not included wikipedia talk:Short descriptions on my watchlist, so never saw the arguments until you pointed this out to me today. So when you are ready to have another go, please let me know and I will add my support to your very reasonable arguments. Chewings72 (talk) 11:18, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
I really would need to see a significant body of favourable comment on my remarks at the SD talk page before being willing to stick my head above the parapet again. Also, I think that the holdouts need to see growing evidence of a groundswell of contrary opinion before being open to change. It has to be a steady drip over time. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 11:25, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
John Maynard Friedman I agree. Chewings72 (talk) 11:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Seuna (Yadava) dynasty

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Hi. During your latest revert on this article you may have inadvertently supported an earlier vandalism by IP 103.134.110.68. I have restored the article back to a stable version by user:HinduKshatrana. Kannada and Sanskrit were the primary languages of the empire and there is sufficient content about that in this article which is well cited. Marathi made a late arrival but needs to be included anyway.Pied Hornbill (talk) 14:51, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Pied Hornbill Thank you for letting me know. Sorry about the unnecessary revert on my part. Chewings72 (talk) 04:43, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Correctable of Azo of Iberia

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The article reads (Modern interpretation): Moses speaks of "Mithridates, satrap of Darius" (identifiable with Mithridates I of Pontus) installed by Alexander to rule over the Georgians. Darius died in 330 BC, and Mithridates I of Pontus was not born at that time ... Mithridates II of Cius should be written here, because during his transfer (302 BC) the Kingdom of Iberia was formed. Correction is necessary here. Thanks in advance.--Lasha-george (talk) 17:38, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Lasha-george I have no specific expertise in this area. I was just amending the short description so that it is consistent with the article's text as it currently reads. If you believe the current text is incorrect, please seek consensus by describing your concerns on the article's talk page. Thanks. Chewings72 (talk) 06:42, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks Chewings72.--Lasha-george (talk) 08:49, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

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Drive and Blitz reports

June Blitz: From 20 to 26 June, 6 participating editors claimed 16 copy edits, focusing on requests and articles tagged in March and April. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

July Drive: Almost 575,000 words of articles were copy edited for this event. Of the 24 people who signed up, 18 copyedited at least one article. Final results and awards are listed here.

August Blitz: From 15 to 21 August, we copy edited articles tagged in April and May 2021 and requests. 9 participating editors completed 17 copy edits on the blitz. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

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