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The Winter of Our Discontent

I was [the?] one who went through and "citation needed"-ed the article. You've done a great job finding respectable sources for those. Nice work, keep it up, and thanks. Vincent Moon (talk) 03:54, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, Vincent. I don't really blame the original author(s) for not including citations, it is hard work! Easier in my case, because I had just completed an article on the Faustian Bargain in fiction, and already had the references to hand. However, I might not have edited the wiki article if you hadn't tagged it, so thanks to you for doing that - it certainly needed it! Brymor (talk) 14:15, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for that. I have contacted the photographer's agent asking for permission. I will reload the file if I get it, otherwise I will forget it, as I have completely failed to find a free equivalent pic of Sarah Lucas.Brymor (talk) 16:38, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Medea James Morwood 1996b.jpg

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Non-free use rationale clarified. Brymor (talk) 18:05, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

I have restored the deletion tag. It specifically states "do not remove this notice from files you have uploaded". Although you have changed the rationale, the image is still not the subject of significant sourced commentary and so the primary reason for deletion still applies (WP:NFCC#8). To dispute the deletion, you can make your case on the file's talk page, but please do not remove the deletion tag again. -- Whpq (talk) 18:34, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes,interesting. The deletion tag says "Please remove this template if you have successfully addressed the concern",and I thought I had! Now you have clarified things, I see I had covered the first objection, but not the second. I have now argued for the file's inclusion on the talk page, which answers the second objection, I hope. Brymor (talk) 20:27, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Wadham College Gazette

Hi, I had a look at User:Brymor/sandbox#Wadham College Gazette and I am not sure that the Wadham College article needs to mention the Wadham College Gazette. I checked a couple of neighbouring colleges, Trinity and Balliol and also Trinity, Cambridge and their articles do not mention their alumni magazines.The problem with the paragraph is that information about the gazette is sourced to the gazette itself, while Wikipedia aims to summarise what independent sources say about a subject, not what it says about itself. I think a sentence like "The college publishes an annual magazine for alumni, the Wadham College Gazette" would be reasonable. TSventon (talk) 06:23, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

You make a valid point about Trinity and Balliol not mentioning such magazines. A counter argument would be to point to the article on The Harrovian, a similar publication, which scarcely rates article status, but there it is. I personally think that Wikipedia would be enhanced by a section on the Wadham Gazette because it is alluded to in several articles, but as I said earlier, i am not happy with my draft, so another editor will have to do it. I had hoped that your skills as a Private Investigator might have unearthed something useful, but having searched myself, I agree that adequate references are thin on the ground.

In the meantime, I have added the short sentence you suggest. Brymor (talk) 20:47, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

I didn't expect college magazines to be of much interest to independent sources, but I did an internet search to check. I don't have access to any relevant offline sources. I couldn't remember any Oxford college articles mentioning alumni magazines, so I looked at a couple to double check. (I later remembered St Anne's College, Oxford#The Ship.) Arguments based on WP:OTHERSTUFF can be flawed as the material in the other article may well be nonnotable. As you say The Harrovian doesn't seem to be notable, but I haven't done any research to check.

By the way, do you have access to the Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library? If not, I can recommend it. TSventon (talk) 08:30, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Interesting about St Anne's College, Oxford#The Ship - well remembered! I am aware of a couple of independent sources that refer to The Wadham Gazette (Spectator, Patrick Leigh Fermor, see Henry Hardy), but would agree that does not in itself make the Gazette notable.

Thanks for alerting me to the Wikipedia Library. I do indeed have access, and it looks fascinating. I currently have my own link to JSTOR, but to have Wiley, SAGE and all the rest as well makes this a very powerful resource. Brymor (talk) 13:34, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

I have only scratched the surface of the Wikipedia Library, but Oxford Scholarship has several volumes of The History of the University of Oxford, which is a useful source for Oxford University articles. TSventon (talk) 09:15, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

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