User talk:Andypandy.UK/Archive 5

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Thanks for the words...

Thanks for the words about my uncivil archive. I only move over un-constructive comments related to AfD discussions. The rest of the discussions on my talk page stay there - I like connecting with people here - most are very friendly and positive. I assume your comments come from the mediation request put in about me.--Gay Cdn (talk) (email) (Contr.) 00:25, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Well feel free to stick your nose in anytime... ;-)--Gay Cdn (talk) (email) (Contr.) 00:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I wasnt done editing it :P

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Re:Good Image Tagging

I been trying to clean up that mess of RuneScape images.--Andeh 09:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me? Mess is not the word for that. They are all useful image, but there are a few too many. So we need to delete some for RuneScape's chances of being a featured article. J.J.Sagnella 09:10, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Well too many have been uploaded then not used, then forgotten about. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andypandy.UK (talk • contribs) .

I'm still upset with how you've described them. People have put a lot of work in them, and at the very least you can tag/delete them civilly. Resolving to calling them "a mess" is not acceptable from anyone, let alone someone trying to be an adminstrator. J.J.Sagnella 09:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

ARV

Hard refresh the page - the ARV script has been upgraded. --JD ^{don't talk} _{email me} 23:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. :) --Andeh 23:18, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

No worries. --JD ^{don't talk} _{email me} 23:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

It will now correctly use the IPVandal template for IP addresses. --lightdarkness ^(talk) 23:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Protection

Because there's no good reason for anyone to edit an archive, and as a response to this: [1]. Do you take issue? - CrazyRussian talk/email 23:47, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

And so I don't have to watch all 18. - CrazyRussian talk/email 23:48, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Am I not free to protect anything in my userspace except my primary talk page? - CrazyRussian talk/email 23:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Why would you even ask about something like that? Is there any reason on earth you would want them unprotected? - CrazyRussian talk/email 23:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, if you find it unnecessary, go ahead and unprotect it. - CrazyRussian talk/email 23:54, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

(Oops... Cliche.) Is this intentional or unintentional - are you trying to further the Crzrussian-does-not-know-policy impression given my current issues? - CrazyRussian talk/email 23:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

RfA

[2] You're a strict dude... then, so am I. :) - CrazyRussian talk/email 16:29, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

RfA/Andrew Levine

Re [3], how very inappropriate! May I suggest you revert yourself - you can revert me as well. - CrazyRussian talk/email 21:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, I appreciated the heads-up. That's why you shouldn't try to rush through an RfA in 5 minutes... BryanG^(talk) 07:12, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Well Crzr did encourage me to make my comment so it was actually useful. :) Thank you both.--Andeh 07:15, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Were you suggesting that I create a sock and use that one as the admin account? Or were you being sarcastic? I couldnt tell. :) SynergeticMaggot 00:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

RfA Question

I answered it. Let me know if you need more clarification. Best Regards, alphaChimp ^laudare 05:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Renata3 (3)

Quoting from another talk page..

Image:Alhawsawi.jpg

Passport photos are not copyrightable. I'm not around much, but I wrote a great deal of the Wikipedia:Copyrights information, and I'm familiar with international copyright. If you doubt that passport photos are ineligible for copyright, ask one of the experts like User:Lupo, or list in on WP:PUI. All the best, – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 19:49, 13 May 2006 (UTC) [edit]

Image:Casp6 T281 small.gif

I had permission to use any and all images from Rosetta's team, see comment from Head Scientist "Please use any and all images you want. thanks!" http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=1319#12928 [edit]

Speedy deletion

Regarding the article Image:HOUSE OF CARDS DISC2-30(2).jpg, which you tagged for speedy deletion with the reason "This image is a redundant (all pixels the same or scaled down) copy of Image:HOUSE OF CARDS DISC2-30(2).jpg, which is on Wikipedia (not Commons), and all inward links have been updated", I wanted you to know that I have removed the speedy deletion tag. This article does not qualify for speedy deletion because the image is not scaled down or duplicate, it is larger. If you still want the article to be deleted, please use the WP:IFD process. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 22:37, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

The above three clearly indicates a problem with her understanding policy. Given the recent nature of these problems. I feel she is unqualifed for adminship. --Masssiveego 05:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Alphachimp

"Calender is a valid spelling, sadly enough. It actually has it's own meaning. Regards, Typochimp 05:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)"

Possible, sockpuppet.

"Advertising is not a speedy criterion.

Hi there.

Advertising and spam is not a speedy deletion category. (I tried to make it so once, but it hasn't gotten enough support.) Please use prod if something you want deleted doesn't fall under one of the established WP:CSD categories. Thanks. Grandmasterka 03:40, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah, OK. I've used it a lot before and admins have deleted the pages. Thanks for telling me though. I have copied this on both my and your usertalk. Regards, --Alphachimp talk 03:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)"

why are you removing wikilinks and wikidates?

Why are you removing wikilinks and wikidates? If this is part of some new policy initiative why doesn't your edit summary point to the policy? -- Geo Swan 20:11, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Could you point me to an example? I've been removing links that are repeated on the page.--Alphachimp talk 20:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Here. I believe it would always be a mistake to unlike wikidates, because the wikipedia counts on dates being in the wikidate format in order to allow readers to choose their preferred format for date presentation.

Further explanation to follow. -- Geo Swan 20:26, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah, OK the date. Yeah that was the only article in which I changed the format of the date. What's the correct format (I couldn't find anything by searching.). --Alphachimp talk 21:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Correct format is February 15, 2000, but only when month, day and year are all present. Otherwise do not wikilink years on their own, unless there is a special reason to do so. Full details can be found here. You might find some useful pages also that I've linked from my user page. Best Tyrenius 01:49, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

OK. What is the appropriate policy for repeated date links? For instance, if I have February 15, 2000, should the next one be February 15, 2000 because of redudancy? Regards, --Alphachimp talk 06:54, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

You always use the wikilink as shown for month, day, year, no matter how many times it's present. This is because the purpose of doing so is not actually to link to something, but to enable people to set their preferences so that the date is displayed in the format they choose. (You can do this in your preferences settings - try it out.) There has been discussion somewhere that this is confusing (as you've found), and then incorrectly encourages people to wikilink partial dates—such as just the year—as a matter of course, which should not be done. Then someone, like User:Rich Farmbrough has to go round de-linking them as here [3]. I hope this is clear, but get back to me if you wish. Tyrenius 14:40, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

That's really interesting. I didn't realize that. Perhaps somebody should contact the developers of AWB, because all dates are flagging as repeated links. Regards, --Alphachimp talk 14:44, 23 June 2006 (UTC)"

Failure to understand policy. --Masssiveego 07:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll answer your questions after the AFD is over. --Masssiveego 18:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for reverting my user page. I think these last two, this morning, are the 8th and 9th this week. I can't decide if I'm doing something right or if I should stock up on canned goods. :-) Thanks again - Baseball,Baby! ^{balls•strikes} 08:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow - I appreciate the offer, but I'm way too new, plus I'm still learning. Maybe in a couple of months. I've thought about it a little; I want it to go through if/when I'm nominated, and I've seen and voted enough at RfA to know that it's too soon. I'm trying to toughen up my fragile skin by participating in CVU and as many debates/discussions as I can, but I'm not tough enough yet to submit to RfA - too brutal. I have figured out, though, that there are some who have admin standards that Superman couldn't meet, and that helps a bit. ;-) Baseball,Baby! ^{balls•strikes} 09:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Yep. It's not so much time wasting as it is a primal desire for self-preservation.

A minute ago I read something (while slogging through the Kelly Martin/College Football Fair Use Nuclear Meltdown of 2006) from one of the regular RfA voters, complaining about how RfA is like the Spanish Inquisition lately. (_{The Spanish Inquisition?} ^{The SPANISH INQUISITION?!?} :-D) I worry about this, not just here but in real life too. It's like you're not allowed to make any mistakes anymore, at any time. I made a couple of whoppers when I first started doing RC patrol because I hadn't yet grasped what vandalism is and isn't, and I know those are going to be spotlighted at my RfA - and that's fine, really, because the work of admin candidates should be examined. But good grief, nobody's perfect. The important thing is that the experience makes you better and you come away with more knowledge than you had before that episode. That's not the thinking at RfA right now - some people want perfection, and it's a pack mentality that I even bought into myself for a while. I've changed my RfA 'standards' to 'do I trust the user?' and not much more, because that's the heart of the matter. (Sigh.) Thanks, dear - I appreciate it. (Yep, I'm a girl. Just one who loves baseball.:-) - Baseball,Baby! ^{balls•strikes} 10:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Howd u find my page?

Howd u find my pages lol - im creatin it right now, got any pointers, i got no idea lol—Preceding unsigned comment added by DeltaSlaya (talk • contribs)

RfA thanks

Thanks so much for voting, Andypandy.UK! Thanks so much for your support vote on my request for adminship! With a final vote count of (82/5/0), it succeeded, and I'm now an administrator! I am thrilled with the overwhelming positive support from the community, and sincerely thank you once again for taking your time to voice your opinion. Feel free to contact me with any comments/suggestions in the future! —Mets501 (talk) 03:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Yah

Check out this page. I totally didn't realize it existed, but it's pretty awesome. You don't like the font? alphaChimp ^laudare 01:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The font on your talk page hurts my eyes, which is why I'm replying here. :) --Andeh 01:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

AP.Bot - userboxes

AP,

Given this edit, [4] and others like it, I'd like to know if you are ignoring links. I consider such a "repair" incomplete, since it will leave a red link as soon as Cyde deletes the original template. Rfrisbie^talk 14:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean. Do you intend to finish the job or not? Rfrisbie^talk 15:05, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

You wrote

No, the ignore box isn't ticked. I have {{User jedi}} under the Find column.--Andeh 15:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean either. :S --Andeh 15:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Do you intend to modify your bot so that it empties "What links here"? That means transclusions and links.

Please reply on this page. Rfrisbie^talk 15:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but AWB skips pages where it doesn't replace anything, for whatever reason.--Andeh 15:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

All you have to do is add more find and replace criteria something like these. I don't add brackets for more hits, but you might want to add them to a bot for fewer false positives.

Find	Replace
tl|User <n>	[[User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/<n>]]
Template:User <n>	User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/<n>
User <n>	User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/<n>
|<n>	|:Rfrisbie/Userbox/<n>
| <n>	| :Rfrisbie/Userbox/<n>

Rfrisbie^talk 15:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah, OK. That is the reason why I have the account on trial. I will keep that table for refences.--Andeh 15:33, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Cool. It took me a few hundred tries (and messages from others) to work those out. Keep up the good work!

Rfrisbie^talk 15:36, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure the table is correct? top looks wrong, shouldn't it be User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/<n> instead of [[User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/<n>]]?--Andeh 15:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

No, that actually works, but it really wouldn't change anything to include the curly brackets on both sides. You'll just replace something that's already there, e.g.,

tl|User <n> → [[User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/<n>]] works like

{{tl|User <n>}} → {{[[User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/<n>]]}}

Rfrisbie^talk 15:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

p.s. More to your point actually, the "[[" and "]]" make the original blue link keep working. Rfrisbie^talk 15:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not convinced all those replacement rules are 100% safe. If someone has very similar text then that'll probably get replaced too.--Andeh 16:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

That's why I suggested you include curly brackets for a bot. Your biggest problem probably will be to get the Babel box links that use pipes while ignoring regular link pipes. At the very least, please add the standard directory fix,

{{tl|User <n>}} → {{[[User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/<n>]]}} so that all the userspace directories are updated properly. Thanks. Rfrisbie^talk 16:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I see you still haven't made the adjustment. [5] Please fix {{tl|...}} Rfrisbie^talk 16:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Done, I can always go through them again anyway.--Andeh 16:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Rfrisbie^talk 16:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

You really should think about opening a bot account with all the userbox moving/replacing you do.--Andeh 16:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Either that or retire. ;-) Rfrisbie^talk 16:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you!

Thank you for adding the tags to two images I uploaded. I don't know how I missed that! Cheers Rossrs 14:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, too

sleepy to typewrite.

Hopiakuta 09:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Deville's RfA

See my comment: "Can Andeh please clarify whether s/he actually meant to write 'weak support' or actually meant to record a vote under the Oppose heading? It needs to be fixed up one way or the other."

Cheers! Metamagician3000 10:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Fair Use Images?

You took a screenshot of RuneScape out of my UserPage, when I was praising RuneScape. Please Explain. Footballrocks41237 19:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the WP:MFD relist. Somnabot 20:06, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Wangi/RFA

Thanks for your comments on my rfA, in the end I did manage to become an admin. Please let me know of anything I can do to help. Thanks/wangi 00:51, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Archive

Hey! Thanks a lot man. So do I just copy and paste the comments over there myself now? --DieHard2k5 00:53, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I cut and pasted that, so we'll see what happens after the 7 days. --DieHard2k5 00:56, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Kpjas' RFA

Hi Andeh!

On Kpjas' RFA, you have voted oppose based on his apparent lack of experience, ("You say you want to tackle vandalism yet I see no evidence of vandal fighting already. You have been here since 2001, have less than 100 user talk edits, and less than 200 WP edits"). In fact, Kpjas is already an admin on the Polish Wikipedia, and has 37,000 edits there, including 2,600 to WP space over there. You have opposed based on inexperience, and lack of vandal-fighting but these facts clearly indicate plenty of experience in the required areas. Andeh, you want an experienced editor for admin. Kpjas is clearly experienced. Without badgering you, I urge you to reconsider your vote in this particular RfA. Happy editing! :) --Firsfron of Ronchester 23:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Andeh,

Thanks for your note. Kpjas' English seems just fine to me, here, for example. You can dig thru his contribs, but I haven't found anything indicating his English is poor: quite the opposite, in fact. Anyway, I'm just responding to your English concern, and really not trying to badger you. I'll leave you be. :) --Firsfron of Ronchester 23:55, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, it must be, like, 1 AM there (I'm guessing). Go to bed! :) (Although I'm a bit of a night owl myself...)--Firsfron of Ronchester 00:18, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I have prodded a few people I thought would be reasonable and reconsider their positions. I didn't bother with a few names I felt wouldn't change their opinions, or those who opposed for other reasons. I just thought the truth about Kpjas' experience and background should come out. I seriously don't know why his background wasn't put into the original nomination, but he deserves for all the facts to be laid out: he's definitely got experience. BTW, I love that owl on your userpage. Really cool. :) --Firsfron of Ronchester 00:27, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

sorry

sorry about that .....have a great one—Preceding unsigned comment added by DISCOUNTFREIGHT (talk • contribs)

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Userpage space

I'll admit it, I stole the idea from the best. =) It's a really good idea. Yanksox 18:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

LOL! I acutally think it's something that Randy should have so he does have a chance to prove himself, and so I can have the excuse to be my random self. :P Yanksox 18:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Of course you can join the group, but now I have to bake brownies. :) Yanksox 19:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

lol, you can add your name to the page. =P Yanksox 19:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

If you want to. Yanksox 19:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

LOL! YESSS! YOU ROCK! =D Yanksox 19:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I thought you were joking. You win points..lots of them...OBEY THE MUNICIPALITY! Yanksox 19:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstahh

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		WOW! Seriously, good work, that made my Wiki-day! =) Yanksox 20:17, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks for your support. You may well be right that I sometimes show symptoms of editcountitis. I like to think of myself as more of a wikipediholic; I was proud of managing a week and a half recently on holiday with only a few dozen edits, although I admit I was shaking and sweating from time to time... Thanks too for flagging up your concerns about my use of AWB; it is a powerful tool and I have certainly been much more circumspect in its use recently, but I will take your criticism very seriously. Best wishes, --Guinnog 14:21, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words, your support, and your helpful and insightful questions. --Guinnog 10:08, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

No indeed. It very much depends what weight the closing bureaucrat gives to the various opposes. What will be, will be. --Guinnog 10:12, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Mithgol

I am checking it out. I LOVE this guy's userbox ru:Шаблон:Интерес:Секс!! "This user is interested in sex". Could we some on this pedia?? :) :) - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Deville's RfA

Hello, Andy, and thank you for the weak oppose support on my recent RfA. The final tally was 72/1/0, and I have now been entrusted with the mop. I'll be tentative with the new buttons for a while, and certainly welcome any and all feedback on how I might be able to use them to help the project. All the best, and thanks again! — Deville (Talk) 00:43, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

GIen's RfA: Thank you!

Andypandy.UK for your Support! I I feel truly humbled & honored by your support in my RfA, which closed at 90 / 5 / 0. Thank you! If you need me for anything, just say the word. For now however, just like Mr Potter here: My mop & I shall thwart all evil :) IThank you once again my friend. GIen

PS: YES YOU'RE RIGHT HARRY POTTER USES A BROOM! (BUT GOOD MOPS ARE HARD TO FIND!!)

PPS: Have applied for a username change too - Glen_S :) - GIen 05:41, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Added ya

Yeah, that's cool. I asked Petros471 to do one of his RfA reviews for me recently, but who knows how long that'll take. ;) I hope to see you as an admin soon as well! :) --Mr. Lefty _{Talk to me!} 23:21, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure about that, everyone told me to wait 1-3 months on my first RfA. Besides, there have been other admins that succeeded two months after their first. --Mr. Lefty _{Talk to me!} 23:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Creating articles on books

Hello Andy! I had a question: if I want to create an article on a book, does the book have to be well known or can it be rather unknown? WBS, thanks! loulou 03:30, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:GO!

Thanks :) Took a bit of persuading, but I managed it! Oh and thanks for not being someone complaining about their article I just speedied (that's what orange bars usually mean while I'm clearing CAT:CSD!) Petros471 19:54, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I can try

I can try! I will see what needs to be done. Æon ^{Insane Ward} 20:18, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

On the What links here list Is that located on the history or when you open the edit this page tab? Æon ^{Insane Ward} 20:28, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind just remembered where to find it (what not used it in a while sorry) Æon ^{Insane Ward} 20:31, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

User:AP.BOT request

Could you set it to where this bot's edits are set as minor edits so I can bypass them while doing RC patrol. It gets, no offense, annoying to see them while trying to spot vandalism. Thanks! — The Future 01:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, Thank you very much for fixing this. :) Cheers! — The Future 15:59, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

If you're going to mess up my userboxes...

Hi there - your lovely bot dropped by my page and has done something odd with a couple of my userboxes. Now...I am only an occasional wikipedian, but I chose those boxes to reflect my own personal twist here. Now they are, well...useless. Please either restore them or tell me (in detail, I have NO programming knowledge) how to do it myself. Thank you. Risker 04:37, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting things out! Risker 19:56, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

AP.BOT

Your bot did something strange to one of my userboxes. I was confused at first, but it's no biggie, might wanna sort it out though.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Poolkris (talk • contribs)

Pass That Dutch

thanks for the help.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Robinsimpson1992 (talk • contribs)

Re: How'd you find them?

I just searched for site:en.wikipedia.org inurl:User "we offer" on Google, I have about 20 more that I have not gotten around to list yet, I'm sure a lot more can be found by searching for varios common "adspeak" phrases. --Sherool (talk) 17:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Netsnipe/User Bureaucratic F**k

4. What are User:Netsnipe/User Bureaucratic F**k and User:Netsnipe/User Bureaucratic Fuck? Please explain what these are, their purpose, and why they are here. Thanks.

A: A satirical userbox as fully explained and linked to at User_talk:Netsnipe/User_Bureaucratic_F**k. If people believe that having this userbox around would be a bad reflection of me being an administrator I will be more than willing to delete it. Currently, I have 10 positive comments for it and 2 against. --  Netsnipe  ^(Talk)  17:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah

I've made a reply to your Bot justification comment on my Talk Page, just notifying you in case you chose to eradicate me from your Watchlist. I would if I were you actually, because I tend to speak shite. By the way, I forgot to mention, I love the strigiform in the top right of your User Page — top draw. Gave me a giggle. Kris 17:56, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for catching the newbie friendliness on my user page... —Wknight94 (talk) 18:18, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Your Bot

I'd like to give you lots of thanks for your bot helping out with WP:GUS. I'm on a Mac, and don't have AWB, so it helped that there was another "user" helping to subst on over 300 pages! Thanks! -Royalguard11^{TalkMy Desk} 18:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Runcorn

In case you hadn't seen it, I thought I would mention that Runcorn has responded again in some detail to your concerns about his capacity to address vandalism. If you have checked this out already, please ignore my message and apologies for troubling you. Thanks. Tyrenius 21:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey, you can't delete talk like that! I can assure you there is no objection to your comments, you are perfectly entitled to make them, and they raise valid concerns, so there is no need to worry. Certainly POINT didn't enter my head, nor I think anyone else's. I simply want the candidate to be judged on merit, and you should feel free to make whatever decision you wish.

The talk needs to be replaced as a record of the AfD, and also so that other editors can take it into account if they wish. It can either be replaced exactly as it was, or if you wish to withdraw from the discussion per your edit summary, simply put <s> before your neutral comment and </s> after it. This is entirely your choice, and I would not wish to influence it one way or the other.

Tyrenius 22:24, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Your comments have to stay as well. See CrazyRussian's comments. He changed his mind, but had to leave his comments and strike them out. That is what you have to do, if you withdraw your comments. However, I would like to point out that it is not a question of being "wrong". You have seen something which you feel is important and it is your right to state this. This is a free debate. Other people may well have raised it if you didn't. They have doubtless read it and are satisfied with Runcorn's response. Thus it has served a useful function.

If you really want to remove your comments, then they will all have to be struck through, but I can't see any real reason for doing that. That is your choice though. Alternatively, you can strike through any particular comments that you wish to withdraw. Or you can just strike through your "neutral" if you wish to opt out of giving a fixed opinion. Or you can leave all intact.

Tyrenius 22:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the comments have to stay. It is not fair on other participants for a start, as they will have read those comments before making a decision, so it shows what they have taken into account. Also Runcorn's comments without yours don't show why he is making them. I have withdrawn your neutral and stated "Editor withdrawn" as you don't seem to want to state a position. If this is incorrect, let me know and I will reinstate you as "neutral". If you wish to have your other comments struck through you can do this, or leave a message for me and I'll do it for you. Or you can add a statement about your present position on this RfA.

Tyrenius 23:01, 28 August 2006 (UTC)