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A tag has been placed on XSuite Invoice Cube, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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January 2021 edit

 

Hello Alex Kowalski. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to XSuite Invoice Cube, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

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  Hello, I'm Deb. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.Deb (talk) 19:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

I very rarely write on Wikipedia and have never received any compensation or had any other benefit from it - not even for the recently deleted article. The article is an almost verbatim translation from the German Wikipedia, where it has never been objected to. The software has relevance - thousands of accountants work with it every day, also in the USA. I don't find it overdone in promotional language, it has many references. How can I improve it so that it is accepted? Maybe remove the links to the xsuite website?

Best Regards, Alex Alex Kowalski (talk) 21:14, 29 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi. I nearly missed your message because you posted it in the middle of my Talk page, in a paragraph on a different subject. Yes, do remove all external links from the text of any article you write - including them will almost automatically get your article tagged for promotion. Also, ensure that you have plenty of independent references; most of what the company says about its own products should be disregarded. And a statement like "xSuite Invoice Cube is fully SAP-certified, with "SAP Integration Certification" for SAP ERP 6.0 and SAP S/4HANA" is something only a manufacturer would say - clearly intended to promote the produt. However, looking at the deleted text again, it's not as bad as I initially felt, and I'm prepared to move it to draft space for you to work on. You'll find it at Draft:XSuite Invoice Cube.
Incidentally, the fact that an article exists on another Wikipedia is seldom a good reason for it to be accepted on this one, nor is the fact that "it has never been objected to". Even with the same rules on promotion, things slip through the net. Deb (talk) 09:12, 31 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Deb, Alex and I have discussed this on my talk page. You know what I find so interesting? Every time I deal with an editor who writes an article about some company because they think it's somehow important to "present factual information", they never write about the broader subject in an encyclopedic way, but always about one single product. Of course should have something on business process automation, and we do, but invariably, they write about one specific (commercial) instance in stead of the class. Alex, perhaps you could write an article about automation of invoice processing without mentioning a single individual vendor? Vexations (talk) 17:07, 31 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Vexations, that's very true. I would imagine it's because they lack the expertise to write about the broader subject. Since Alex's work here is mainly translating from other language Wikipedias, I would think that's also due to there (a) not being articles on those subjects in other languages (note that this is a German article about a German company) and also (b) being short on the technical vocabulary required to translate the base concepts. Deb (talk) 17:50, 31 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Deb, umm, he wrote the German article and had a friend translate it. Vexations (talk) 17:51, 31 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Ah, right, thanks for that. In that case, I'll just block creation of the topic in mainspace until and unless it's been reviewed and approved in draft. Deb (talk) 17:53, 31 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Ok, Deb, I will try then to improve the article without manufacturer wordings and references. How is it if there are no English-language references for statements? Can one then - exceptionally - also refer to other-language sources? With appropriate marking in the reference? Alex Kowalski (talk) 14:15, 4 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Ok, Vexations, I'll see what items might be useful for automating invoice processing. I had also noticed that this related topic is very thin in content: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEPPOLAlex Kowalski (talk) 14:15, 4 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Alex Kowalski, Non-English sources are perfectly fine, as long as they are independent, reliable and provide significant coverage. Vexations (talk) 14:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Your submission at Articles for creation: XSuite Invoice Cube (July 21) edit

 
Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Clearfrienda were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
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Concern regarding Draft:XSuite Invoice Cube edit

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 13:01, 21 December 2021 (UTC)Reply