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The Reality Era (Dispute)

Before you scold me with threats and say I added unsourced info when "Universe" era was already unsourced as it was, please do your research. Never has this timeframe in WWE ever been referred to as the "Universe" era by WWE themselves. Meanwhile they have made many referenced to it being the "PG Era" before, some of which I have added as evidence in the "Talk" section of the article in question. In addition, the article had PG Era listed for many, many years beforehand with no issue until recently. Take care.

Sources were provided naming it the Universe Era, as well as WWE 2k Vidoe games. The pg era name was a criticism of fans, tv ratings do not determine an era. It was there many years, but also all those years people tried to change the name, you can look back the edit history. I myself opposed the cahnge then due to lack of reliable sources, but now that there are reliable sources I have accepted the change. It was agreed as per consensus on this discuss [1]. Please provide a reliable source calling that particular period the pg era and discuss on article talk page showing the source. if you are able to show the reliable source your edit will not be reverted next time. Also keep in mind WP:EW policies and the three revert rule, violating WP:EW may result in three revert rule. I am giving you the cchance to provide a WP:PW/RS on the talk page discussion. Kindly cooperate: [2]. Thank you. Dilbaggg (talk) 03:10, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

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You have continued your drisruptive editing, removed sourced information and used unsourced materials and contents from redit which do not fit WP:RS and WP:PW/RS guidelines despite my previous warning and the warning of XLinkBot, thus you will be reported. Dilbaggg (talk) 00:01, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

I have no idea what you mean by disruptive. I have added sources as YOU requested and also removed completely unnecessary material to the article which didn't fit the timeline. The "Reality Era" began in early 2014 as per WWE themselves yet all sorts of information from the PG Era in 2013 is within that portion of the article. If the reddit source is no good I apologize. I did not see anywhere anyone saying it was not a good enough source. I will add a BETTER source now from wwe themselves which is here below. Sorry.

https://www.wwe.com/polls/what-is-your-favorite-wwe-era

A video game is not only not a very reliable source in my opinion, but often times they make up their own things which do not apply to the actual real product. In addition, WWE.com is a 100x more reliable source than a "Visual Concepts" (the company that makes the game)

You are adding WP:PRIMARY sources. Notice all of the other listings either have their own article; those articles include secondary sources. The_Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth includes sources from IGN, etc. If you want to add entries to that list, they should ideally have their own article, or if they don't have their own article yet, they should include secondary sources indicating that they have some level of notability. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 00:32, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

There is no reason why that should not be considered an unreliable source as it is from WWE themselves. Speaking of unreliable sources someone has added a source from "DeviantArt.com" with some sort of fan made photo lol. Somehow that is ok?

Also, my editing of this article took a lot of time and effort and it has been deleted. Can it somehow be reversed? The portion of the article in question is a mess. I am unsure if you are the actual moderator of the article or not. Forgive i'm not too familiar with how Wikipedia moderators work. Perhaps I can speak to the actual person in charge. There is no reason why information from 2013 should be within the Reality Era which began in early 2014 as per WWE themselves. Again I apologize. I will add the new source from wwe.com with your permission.

Apologies; my comment above was regarding a different page, I appear to have mixed up IP talk pages trying to respond to multiple questions at once. I'm not familiar enough with the WWE to be involved with this. Sorry for the confusion. To answer your general question about moderators (admins), there aren't any assignments or "persons in charge" as you're alluding to. Wikipedia policies/disputes are settled by the community at large, the role of a moderator/admin is to enforce/clarify policy and consensus, not create it. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 03:26, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

I will state one final thing on this matter, the only source you have is a random poll (other than the reddit source which has been dismissed, as despite requests you do not seem to read WP:RS which specifically names Reddit as unreliable,I quote since you do not seem to have the time to read "Examples of unacceptable user-generated sites are Wikipedia, Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr, Instagram, Reddit; IMDb, Ancestry.com, Find-a-Grave, and ODMP." Then you are using a poll as a source? Seriously? No article states Reality Era started in 2014, many well sourced information including [3], [4] lists 2013 as the beginning. The reality era has been talked about since 2011 to be honest, but to include those references [5], CM Punk's pipe bomb in 2011 was cited as the begining and CM Punk himself has mentioned it and has been credited as it beginner. However a lot of changes needs to be made, thats too tedious,but there are WP:RS that claims 2013 as the beginning and it has been easier to fit in. non of us are willing for that: As for "DeviantArt.com" it is not classified unreliable in WP:PW/RS. Please read WP:RS to learn about reliable sources and for professional wrestling articles in particular WP:PW/RS. The page has now been protected from unregistered users, only if registered editors reach a consensus things would change, otherwise the article is perfect the way it is complying with WP:RS and WP:NOR policies. It has been targeted by disruptive editors removing sources and even WP:RS reference links themselves in the past and was protected then too. Again my last note to you I repeat: Please read WP:RS to learn about reliable sources and for professional wrestling articles in particular WP:PW/RS. Good day, cheers and I hope you enjoy continue to contribute positively to Wikipedia whilst following the guidelines and policies. Dilbaggg (talk) 03:52, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

I have clicked and reviewed both your sources of [3] and [4] and do not see any mention at all of anything PG Era related. I just see current wrestling news. Even if they did have information, are you really implying/saying that a link to WWE's own website is inferior to dirt sheet news sites such as Bleacher Report PW Torch? Also, because it is a just a poll and not an article you are discrediting and discounting WWE THEMSELVES? Yes it is a just a poll, but I am completely confused as to how in the world this is not deemed a reliable and/or good enough source with regards to the simple fact of when these era's took place. It shows CLEARLY in black and white that the Reality Era is 2014-2016. Also, just because CM Punk had one famous shoot promo in 2011 during the PG Era does not mean whatsoever that was the beginning of the Reality Era, even if Punk himself enjoys taking some sort of credit. The video game reference with the PG Era even refutes this. Lastly, with regards to DeviantArt, I still just find it one of the most hardest things to believe that a picture made by a random fan can be deemed more reliable by Wikipedia than an actual link to WWE.com, even if it is simply a poll.

I have given up on trying to edit and clean up this article and will leave it as the incorrect way if that is what you want. Just please do not report me as I meant no harm at all. I have been a WWE fan for 35 years and am extremely knowledgeable about the company's history. I enjoy editing and correcting WWE information. If you ever decide you'd like me to fix that particular portion of the page to the correct way to reflect WWE's own views, by all means let me know. Until then it will stay false.

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You have been warned enough, now you have been reported for your recent vandalism on The Reality Era (WWE). Dilbaggg (talk) 00:30, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

And you will be reported as well for citing false sources and contradicting WWE and going with your own personal views instead.

68.196.72.173 go ahead make false report, you are the one not complying with WP:RS and citing reddit as a source which is not allowed. Dilbaggg (talk) 23:16, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Maybe you have failed to read my endless comments but I acknowledged the Reddit source was wrong and since brought in correct sources, some of which from WWE themselves, I repeat, WWE themselves, that completely supersede your fanmade poster.

68.196.72.173 Here you have clearly used [6] reddit again. The dates that it started form 2013 are from WP:PW/RS including bleacher report and PWTORCH. Regardless if you have any more issues, bring it up here Wikipedia talk:Dispute resolution. If they accept your view, you have my permission to change it. Dilbaggg (talk) 23:43, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Me inserting the Reddit source twice was before I was aware and read that it was invalid. In any event, I did not use it again. Bleacher Report, while a somewhat reputable website, is an opinion based article from 2012 before "The Reality Era" was ever mentioned at all by WWE in any way. On TV it wasn't until 3/24/14 when Triple H we are in the Reality Era. On top of that, again, WWE themselves shows clearly, poll or not, that the PG Era was 08-13 and the Reality Era was 14-16. 2013 has nothing to do with the Reality Era even though I can understand leaving some of your article to explain the background leading up to it which I did during my edit. I did not see any article from PWTorch stating the 2013 was the beginning, and even if it did, still doesn't supersede WWE. You seem to have a thing for not wanting to go the route of WWE themselves which I cannot understand.

68.196.72.173 Triple H never said 2014 was the start of the reality era, he said it was ongoing, much like the pg era started in 2008 but was never acknowledged by WWE themselves until 2010 (until then only fans used the term to mock the WWE's transition "back to TV PG" which it also was before 1997, tv ratings do not determine eras), they referred to the period as the Universe Era. You can't use polls as a source and if you are going to use quotes from wrestlers, I have quotes from CM Punk coining the term reality era from 2011. Dilbaggg (talk) 23:55, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

One quote from CM Punk putting himself over still does not supersede WWE as a whole. It may just a "poll" but it is from WWE. I still cannot beleive this is even a discussion. We will let the users on the Professional Wrestling talk page settle this.

Thats what I suggested long ago, if you want to change it, just gain consensus from other editors. Cheers. Dilbaggg (talk) 00:24, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

All right I am accepting your point and will revert it to the 2014-2016 timeline, confirm to my message, do you want it to be reverted that way? Mention it on the project talk page Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Professional wrestling. Dilbaggg (talk) 05:10, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

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