Unless you have a disorder that causes you to have inadequate common sense, you will notice that the Department of Conversations is, indeed, my Archived Talk page. Are you supposed to be looking at my mail, though? April 2008 edit
thanks. the complaining stops here. no complaints below this line! :-)
Help with your userpage editYou look interested in pretifying your user page. This may be helpful to you: [2] --Jayron32.talk.contribs 22:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC) Leaving messages editBy the way, thanks for helping out with New Page patrolling. Your work is very much appreciated. However, a few tips:
We are SO glad you are helping out with Wikipedia, and your work is greatly appreciated... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 22:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC) Image copyright problem with Image:Angioy.jpg edit Thank you for uploading Image:Angioy.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 15:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Image copyright problem with Image:Ruffruffman.jpg editThank you for uploading Image:Ruffruffman.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 20:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC) :-) editAs you said on my talk page - HI. If your new and want help with anything ask me. I've been around wiki for a while. Dixonsej (talk) 16:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC) Cure editHi. You mentioned at the Award Center that you were writing a Cure article. Please copy what you have done so far to User:Princess Janay/Drafts/Cure. I'd really love to take a look at it. Cheers. The Transhumanist 23:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC) Awards Center Newsletter editI'm pleased to announce that the Awards Center will be getting its own newsletter shortly. If you want to receive the WP:AWC newsletter, put your name here. --Sharkface217 20:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC) Award Center Newsletter, Edition 1 edit
I have responded to your remarks on my talk page editBeeblbrox (talk) 18:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC) MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Princess Janay editWikipedia:Princess Janay, a page you created, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Princess Janay and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:Princess Janay during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 19:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Cure (medical) editI've reverted cure (medical) to one of your edits. Then I did some copy-editing to bring it into line with Wikipedia:Manual of Style. In particular, there were too many capital letters in section headings and the title word was not set in bold at its first appearance. I added a link to cure (medical) on the cure disambiguation page. It would be a good idea for you to find other pages that ought to link to it and put the links there. Among other things, that will help bring the page to the attention of others interested in the topic so that they can also contribute to it. Notice that if you click on "history" you see the page's edit history, and that identifies you as the initial creator of the page. That's the proper place for such identification; it should not be within the article itself. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
It's cool edit Hey. I hope you don't feel you are being ganged up on or anything here. That is certainly not my intention. It is clear you are contributing in good faith and I would encourage you to continue to do so. It seems you had a lot of problems all at once, but if you learn from them, and apply what you have learned, both Wikipedia and yourself have benefited from the experience. I have found that the best, most concise guide to what Wikipedia is and how it works is the five pillars, I know understanding it has helped me quite a bit in my short time here. Good Luck and don't let it get you down. Beeblbrox (talk) 21:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC) Hi Princess editSomeone mentioned that you wrote a message in all caps. That really got me in trouble once, because in this type-written medium it is considered yelling. It took me awhile to realize just how seriously people take Netiquette and the quirky common courtesies that have evolved in this virtual in-print universe we call the Internet. Wikipedia even has some polite customs of its own - see Wikipedia:Etiquette - such as filling in edit summaries. I noticed you mentioned that you are interested in becoming an admin one of these days. I'm impressed. Keep in mind that nobody who fails to use edit summaries makes it through RfA ("Requests for adminship"), as that is seen as an indicator of inexperience and immaturity (lack of regard for others) - many editors, especially admins, carefully analyze every edit made to articles, and edit summaries help them immensely to understand what is going on without having to go in and view the diffs of every single one. Following Wikipedia's Five Pillars and being civil at all times (like refraining from yelling) is the hallmark of a good candidate for RfA. Another link you might find helpful is Staying cool when the editing gets hot. Don't worry about it too much - there's a lot to learn - initial stumblings are disregarded once a user has learned the ropes and has been wikified. :) But whatever you do, don't go for RfA until you've racked up a few thousand edits, and have conferred with an experienced Wikipedian first. The most common mistake at RfA is bad timing (premature nomination). Is your head spinning yet? :) Welcome to Wikipedia! The Transhumanist 15:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC) Learning the ropes editI wrote a lesson called Wikipedia:Learning the ropes to help people get up to speed here on Wikipedia. Please let me know if you find it useful. The Transhumanist 15:42, 5 April 2008 (UTC) Hi there editHi there, I was browsing contributions and was intrigued by your username. I'm impressed by your dedication and if I can help with any science stuff you come across (eg is this vandalism? is this a hoax article?) please drop me a note on my talkpage. All the best Tim Vickers (talk) 01:46, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Holy ####, you're 12?! editI am very happy to see people add material on fungi to wikipedia. Welcome. There are a bunch of us around who edit alot of biology articles. If you have any questions, drop me a line. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:12, 7 April 2008 (UTC) As a note of caution, on Wikipedia, just as in real life, not everybody has good intentions. If anybody starts being creepy towards you, asks for personal details such as your phone number or address, or invites you to meet them in real life, please notify an administrator at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. I don't want to come across as overprotective, but there is a chance that putting your age on your userpage might attract the wrong type of people. Anyway, all the best Tim Vickers (talk) 18:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC) there's a reply to you on my talk page (eom) editVMK editHi, some IP user deleted the article "just for fun", this happens often and is called vandalism. There is no need to re-write the entire article, just click on "undo" and revert it to a previous version. Valerius Myotis (talk) 22:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC) Oh. I didn't know that.--Listen to your Princess, dear Wikipedians. (talk) 22:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
399 to go editWe are almost done, Category:Articles lacking sources from June 2006 is down to less the 400 articles to find references for. I would like to thank you for listing yourself as a volunteer at Wikipedia:Unreferenced articles and would like to take this opportunity to invite you to visit the project again and work on getting the last few articles referenced. We started with 5,572 and we are in the home stretch, please come and try to do a couple a day and we can finish it up in no time. Jeepday (talk) 02:26, 11 April 2008 (UTC) Good day your Highness edithello i'm new here I was just suggesting an idea for a Wikiproject when i saw your name. it's an honor your Highness ~bows~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.244.187.222 (talk) 03:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC) K12 Inc. editThe key to writing about commercial companies is to avoid any appearance of promoting their products or services and include lots of third-party sources. Try Google news and Google scholar for references. Also avoid using "puff words" ie instead of writing "They provide excellent computer services that enable schools to maximise their achievements." just say "They provide computer services to schools". Tim Vickers (talk) 15:54, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Heh figures editifgures you were right miss i didnt even notice thanks heh as always a pleasure your highness ~bows~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tnu1138 (talk • contribs) 16:14, 11 April 2008 (UTC) "Hi" to Her Highness ;) editHi Princess Janay! I noticed your nice exchange of letters with my friend Tim; he's great, isn't he? He's always been really helpful and good-natured to me, and I count him as one of my best friends here. :) I hope you have a very happy time here at Wikipedia! It's a wonderful place, and there are many more wonderful editors to get to know. There may be a few ups and downs, and ornery people now and then, but I hope your royal dignity and serenity will carry you through. Today is my 2nd wiki-birthday, and I haven't regretted a moment. If I can help make your time here a little more cheery now and then, please write and let me know. I've worn the crown, too, but I think it suits you much better. ;) Your signature is excellent! :D Kindly Willow (talk) 18:16, 11 April 2008 (UTC) Egyptology editI've archived your proposal as there is already one here. I like your name better though, propose it there if you wish. +Hexagon1 (t) 02:59, 17 April 2008 (UTC) Admin coaching request status edit
Userpage editMaybe a little help on mine, please? KC109.
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Just a heads up editI thought you might like to know that the Awards Center page has been deleted, along with its newsletter. :( So, where do we go from here? To new and even more interesting projects, of course! As announced in the newsletter, I've been preparing to co-coordinate a large collaboration/competition called Around the World. It was going to be run at the Awards Center, but since that no longer exists, the collaboration will be hosted somewhere else. Around the World will begin July 15th as planned - it's location will be announced soon. It'll be a blast. In the competition, participants will be helping to develop over 200 pages (drafts, which will be moved to article space once they are ready), using advanced tools to edit every single one of them! This is going to be interesting. And the event shall have awards which are being created specifically for it as we speak! If you would like me to keep you informed of this and other interesting collaborations I'll be working on and/or organizing in the future, please drop me a note on my talk page, and I'll be happy to keep you in the know. I look forward to your reply. Sincerely, The Transhumanist 21:48, 26 June 2008 (UTC) I need your feedback... editWhich of the following medals looks better. This one:
Or this one:
Which one do you like better? Please let me know on my talk page. Thank you. The Transhumanist 21:42, 30 June 2008 (UTC) What is Around the World? editIt's a collaboration! A collaboration using advanced wiki-tools! If everything goes according to plan, it will begin on July 15th. The event is being co-sponsored by Wikiproject Lists of basic topics and WikiProject Geography, and participants will be "traveling" all around "the World" visiting each country online (here on Wikipedia and perhaps beyond) as they apply advanced wiki-tools to improve pieces of the profiles of each and every country on Earth!. Each pass through these pages is a "trip around the World..." The set of pages we are working on is currently located at Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists of basic topics. Each page presents essential information on each country in a topic outline format, for ease of overviewing and navigating. Most of the topics presented are linkified, which turns these pages into a hypertextual map to material about each country on Wikipedia. When completed, they shall all become part of Wikipedia's contents system. The pages share a standard format, with the information on each country presented in the same general order. So rather than getting stuck on a single country trying to complete it, each participant works on all 200+ political entities, completing a single data item or detail across all of the pages! For this they use advanced tools like WP:AWB, Linky, etc. It goes fast, and since others are doing this at the same time, it makes "the World" feel like a beehive, and the participants are its bees. :) The energy is contagious. And since you are moving from country to country, the tasks make it feel like you are traveling around the world, and you get to learn a little about every country as you do so. This approach also allows for greater efficiency, because by the time you've done 30 or so of a particular item, you've figured out how to finish it faster and more effectively (such as where to find the data or how to make adjustments), and this specialization speeds up development - but more importantly it reduces errors. The tasks are varied, which adds even more variety to the project. Some tasks are look-ups-and-fill-ins, some are copy and paste, some are image hunts, some are maintenance adjustments, some are link fixing, some are blue-linking (creating an underlying redirect so a link turns blue), some are fact checking, etc. For an example of what a nearly complete page looks like, see these:
There are only about 200 more pages to go! During the collaboration, co-coordinators will be standing by, to lend a helping hand to participants, provide instruction and tips on how to use the tools, and help them find what they are looking for. Co-coordinators will also be using advanced tools to inspect the work of participants, and touch it up as needed, or if a task was done wrong throughout, point this out to the participant so he or she can make the necessary corrections. Co-coordinators are working on the set of pages right now, to familiarize themselves with "the World" so they can help more effectively by the time the main event starts. But there's still lots of preparation left to be done, and we are looking for editors experienced in advanced wikitools who would like to become co-coordinators. The Transhumanist 08:55, 2 July 2008 (UTC) Virtual Family Kingdom editDo you have other sources for this? Currently, what you have is the same source that was in it during the AfD, here. If there are not additional reliable sources sufficient to overcome the consensus of that AfD, the article will be deleted again under criterion WP:CSD#G4, and I'd hate to see you continuing to invest your time in it in that case. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:38, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
←(duplicating from my talk page; should have posted it here, to be sure you'd see it. :)) Yes, if there's substantial new evidence. Are you sure it was up for deletion review, though? I don't see it in the links at Special:WhatLinksHere/Virtual_Family_Kingdom or Special:WhatLinksHere/VFK. Perhaps you're thinking of the AfD? In case you aren't familiar with it, deletion review is a special process where contributors decide if a deletion debate was closed properly or "if significant new information has come to light since a deletion and the information in the deleted article would be useful to write a new article." It's also appropriate to use DRV when the article has been "salted", or protected against recreation. That space was protected, but the protection expired. Since multiple contributors have recreated this article, I've gone on ahead and reinstated the protection. This could make the deletion review process easier, as unless the space is salted contributors there may not wish to consider the matter and the creation-WP:CSD#G4 deletion cycle will continue. But, again, I wouldn't go to deletion review without some really good sources. Personally, I think it would be easier to have strong sources and have the article restored on the first try than to have to come back again later, after a first DRV has failed. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:02, 22 October 2008 (UTC) Orphaned non-free media (Image:Vfklogo.JPG) edit
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There has been some opposition to us running the contest based on edit counts or iterations. The concern is that we should reward quality work and not quantity, for fear of crappy edits done quickly without thought. I pointed out that the collection of pages are drafts in the Wikipedia namespace (therefore posing no danger to article space) and that most of the work needs to be done with power tools like AWB and Linky (which are specifically designed for repetitive work), but the reply was that we shouldn't set the precedent of rewarding barnstars for numerically-based tasks, and implied the threat of continuously MfD'ing the contest if we attempted to do so (like they did with the Awards Center - I was very surprised and disappointed that participants didn't step up to defend it). So we need to be careful in determining what exactly the awards will represent, and how they will be awarded. Since rewarding iterations (passes with AWB on all of the pages in the set) are out, we really don't need the globe in stand anymore. Two awards should suffice. Once we get started with the contest, I'd like to kick the whole thing off with a round of medals for those dedicated few who have worked hard on the project so far. What do you think of all of this? Your comments and suggestions are most welcome. The Transhumanist 23:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC) Userpage editThe code for the blue border with rounded corners and the grey background is: <table style="margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-top: 10px; border: #999FFF solid 5px; -moz-border-radius: 10px; background: Gainsboro;"> <tr><td><div style="padding: 8px;">(change '#999FFF' and 'Gainsboro' to whatever colours you want) and the floating Beatles logo is: <div style="position: fixed; left:0; top:0; display:block; height:155px; width:135px;">[[Image:Beatles logo.png|150px]]</div>(you can use any image you like). If there's anything else you want, it will either be in User:Dendodge/header or near the top of my userpage. I'll be willing to give you any specific code you need. Dendodge TalkContribs 16:55, 30 October 2008 (UTC) Starting a Collaboration editHello. Sorry to bother you, but I'd like to know if you could give me any information on starting a collaboration? I have a really good idea for one, but some of the information on starting a collaboration is just so confusing, I don't know where to look. :-) Thanks,--Listen to your Princess, dear Wikipedians. (talk) 16:37, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
My idea for a Collaboration editOh, thanks for the help. My idea for a project is a collaboration that checks deletion logs, finds deleted articles, and tries to figure out why they were deleted. Then, the problems can be fixed, and the articles can be rewritten. I don't know if someone already created this project, but it sounds liek a good idea to me. Again, thanks.--Listen to your Princess, dear Wikipedians. (talk) 20:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Deleted my picture? editThe image was nominated for deletion and you were notified above but made no response to keep it, so the image was deleted. -Nv8200p talk 01:29, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Want power? editSee this: Wikipedia:Linky tutorial The Transhumanist 05:31, 12 November 2008 (UTC) Your talk page is amazing editYour talk page is HUGE!!!!!!!!!--What!?Why?Who? (talk) 22:43, 10 December 2008 (UTC) File:'pedia.jpg listed for deletion editAn image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:'pedia.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. OsamaKReply? on my talk page, please 08:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC) MfD nomination of Wikipedia:WikiProject National Spelling Bee editWikipedia:WikiProject National Spelling Bee, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject National Spelling Bee and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:WikiProject National Spelling Bee during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 23:19, 18 January 2009 (UTC) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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