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Seal of the President

The Seal of the President of Ireland (Irish: Séala Uachtarán na hÉireann) is a seal used by the President of Ireland to be affixed to every "...order, commission, warrant, or other instrument..."[1] which the president has witnessed. The seal remains in the custody of the current President or the Presidential Commission.

Introduction of the seal edit

In the Irish Free State there were the following seals:

When were seals of govt made? 1922? 1924? 1925? Ministers and Secretaries Act 1924 ss. 1(i), 2(1), 15, 16 specify a seal for Ex C and one per dept (inc Dept Pres Ex C). Were they same pattern as Internal Great Seal? Were the 1937 remakes?

The Constitution (Amendment No. 27) Act 1936 abolished the office of Governor-General and the Executive Powers (Consequential Provisions) Act 1937 transferred its functions to the Executive Council. The internal great seal was disused in favour of the Seal of the Executive Council.

1937 Constitution edit

The 1937 Constitution created the office of President of Ireland. It specifies several situations in which the President must send a message "under his hand and seal":

It specifies others where Pres signature required but no mention of seal.

  • sign bills into law[6]
  • sign enrolled text of the Constitution[7]

Powers not reference to sign or seal:

  • appoint Taoiseach (13.1.1°) — he signs a warrant at the same time as presenting the seal[8]
  • appoint government (13.1.2°)
  • summon dissolve Dáil (13.2.1°)
  • convene meeting Oireachtas (13.2.3°)
  • pardon commutation remission (13.6)
  • communicate with Oireachtas (13.7.1°) or nation (13.7.2°)
  • appoint Council of State — picture of him signing a warrant clearly showing the mark of the seal but no ink.[9]
  • commissions in Defence Forces[10]

Consequential edit

  • Interp Act 1937 only relevant is s8(1) "The date of the passing of every Act of the Oireachtas shall be the date of the day on which the Bill for such Act is signed by the President."

The Pres Seal Act 1937 important bits:

s2(3) The presidential seal affixed to an order, commission, warrant, or other instrument shall be evidence, until the contrary is proved, that every (if any) advice, consultation, consent, or other thing which is, under the Constitution or otherwise by law, a condition precedent to the making of such instrument by the President was duly given, made, or done before such instrument was made by the President
s3(2)
(a) the President shall have the custody and control of the presidential seal;
(b) the presidential seal shall be affixed to instruments made by the President, and to no other instruments, and shall be so affixed by direction of the President and not otherwise;
(c) the presidential seal when affixed to an instrument under this section shall be authenticated by the signature (affixed to such instrument) of the President

Lesser seals edit

Apparently no wafer seal, at least for external FS[11] and Presidents, whatever about internal FS.

The Constitution (Consequential Provisions) Act 1937 ss.8, 9 dealt with transitional use and replacement of IFS govt and ministerial seals.

  • Presidential video shows all seals on table in Áras: 0m30s-0m45s shows 14 small (12 black lining of case, 1 white, 1 blue-and-white) and one big (blue-and-white lining); 2 inscribed "An tAire Gnóthaí Eachtracha" (38s -- black) and "An Rialtas" (42s -- blue) ; "An Taoiseach" 3m03s -- white lining).
    • "The seals are normally kept under lock and key by the Secretary-General [to the President] in Áras an Uachtarán" (3m07s) — surely once appointed a minister keeps the seal in their departmental office?
      • But apparently not! Patrick O'Donnell during Arms Crisis:[12] "He said they refused to hand in their seals of office. Does anyone know what the handing in of a seal of office is? When one has the honour to be appointed a Minister of this State one is handed his seal by the President. He takes it in his right hand and transfers it to his left and hands it back to the President's secretary. He does not see it again and he does not even get a replica. How did they refuse to hand in their seals of office? In other words, what I think he meant was, that they refused to resign, and, therefore, the Taoiseach had no option but to dismiss them."
      • "Former Finance Minister Ruairí Quinn (2005: 210) notes, 'The seal of office was in a small green leather case that opened to reveal a metal medallion. The seals had to be returned when the photographs had been taken.'"[13]
  • Rialtas seal is biggest; Taoiseach seal is the other one in white-and-blue.[14] I surmise the all-white one was created later than the black one, which may date from 1924/5.
  • I see a 2004 "replica of the ministerial seal for the Department of Justice, Equality & Law Reform" is double-sided, with correct Irish name on one side and English on the other; implies real seals are double-sided and new seal for each departmental name change.[15]
  • Reference to Devanney v Shields [1998] 1 IR 230:[16]
    the statutory powers of a minister may be exercised by responsible officials of his or her department without the minister necessarily having any direct or personal knowledge, or having granted specific authority for their exercise. (The case in question concerned the appointment of District Court clerks — an explicitly ministerial function under the Courts of Justice Acts — by a middle ranking civil servant of the Department of Justice, who affixed the ministerial seal to the instruments of appointment for the purpose.)
Orders and instruments edit

Cabinet Handbook

5.5 Special sealing copy [of statutory instrument]
The Order to which the Seal of the Government will be affixed should
a) be on vellum or linen-backed paper or other paper suitable for sealing (the Government Secretariat will advise on request)
b) be in double spacing (with inserts in single spacing) in the same, clear font
c) have neither a separate title-page nor the testatum/seal isolated on a separate page,
d) have each page (except the first) numbered - the pages should be loose, be checked, and initialled at the bottom left-hand corner of each page, by an officer not below the rank of Assistant Principal (or equivalent),
e) have the testatum set out, as follows, at the right-hand side immediately below the text of the Order (or of the final Schedule or Appendix thereto):-
"GIVEN UNDER THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE GOVERNMENT, ______________20_____"
f) have space for application of the Government Seal i.e. a minimum space of 11 centimetres below the testatum at the end of the last page.
5.8 Requirements for Printed Copies of Orders
Printed copies of Orders that have been made by the Government should have the letters "L.S." placed in a circle at the left-hand side of the last page on a level with the testatum. Underneath the testatum should be printed the name and title of the person (Taoiseach, Tánaiste or Secretary General to the Government) who has authenticated the seal of the Government affixed to the Order.

So maybe everything uses the Rialtas seal and the Aire seals are all just for show? Well no: 5.8 "Taoiseach, Tánaiste or Secretary General to the Government" suggests this is not relevant for ministerial SIs. But maybe ministers just have the L.S. circle with no actual seal? The is valid for deeds in English law since a 1978 case;[17][18]) Irish deeds often lacked seals since then, though Land and Conveyancing Law Reform Act 2009 allows such for deeds between individuals but not companies;[17][19] ministers may fall under s.64(2)(b)(iii) for "a body corporate registered in the State other than a company", for which the 2009 act delegates to whatever the pre-existing requirements were ("executed in accordance with the legal requirements governing execution of deeds by such a body corporate").

Compare modern UK usage: Lord Privy Seal is given disused Privy Seal; prime minister gets no seal; Secretaries of State get three seals but most use none; Ken Clarke was surprised he was allowed to take his Chancellor of the Exchequer seal "home for the weekend".[20]

Different types of secondary legislation; government order, ministerial order, others by courts or other bodies, regulations, ...

  • 1942-06-02 re EPOs: "The individual Minister always acts by Ministerial Order made under the authority of a Government Order. It it the Government Order than can be annulled by resolution of the Oireachtas." How does SI 1947 affect?
  • Statutory Instruments Act, 1947
    s.1(1) ... the expression “statutory instrument” means an order, regulation, rule, scheme or bye-law made in exercise of a power conferred by statute.
    s.2(1) This Act primarily applies to every statutory instrument which-—
    (a) is made on or after the 1st day of January, 1948, and
    (b) is made by any of the following authorities, namely:—
    (i) the President,
    (ii) the Government,
    (iii) any member of the Government,
    (iv) any Parliamentary Secretary,
    (v) any person or body, whether corporate or unincorporate, exercising throughout the State any function of government, or discharging throughout the State any public duties in relation to public administration,
    (vi) any authority having for the time being power to make rules of court, and
    (c) is either—
    (i) required by statute to be laid before both or either of the Houses of the Oireachtas, or
    (ii) is of such a character as affects the public generally or any particular class or classes of the public, and
    (d) is not a statutory instrument which is required by a statute to be published in the Iris Oifigiúil.
    1947-11-20 Dáil second stage "Having regard to the volume and variety of statutory instruments, it is not proposed to insist on the publication of all in the official series. Provision is accordingly being made empowering the Attorney-General to exempt from inclusion in the official, numbered series those statutory instruments which because of their merely local or personal application, temporary operation or limited effect, or for any other sufficient reason, should not be published in the official series. "

Later edit

Design edit

The official seal has the word "Éire" in Gaelic script, and uses the modified harp (from a 1928 design by Percy Metcalfe)[21] that is used as the official state symbol on coins and documents of the Republic of Ireland. The design of the official seal was approved by the Executive Council of the Irish Free State on 15 September 1937.[22] In the seal it has fifteen strings.[23]

The official seal is similar to the design of the Internal Great Seal of the Irish Free State which was under the custody of the Governor-General of the Irish Free State and had "Saorstát Éireann"; a new seal was needed for the President because of the change in the name of the state under the the 1937 Constitution.

"The Seal is applied directly to the fabric of each instrument executed under Seal, and imprints on it a permanent design in relief."[23] The "seal" is a one-sided stamp for embossing the pattern on the relevant document, rather than a double-sided matrix for creating a wax seal tied to the document with ribbon.[24] In the Dáil debate on the Presidential Seal Act 1937, James FitzGerald-Kenney and James Dillon complained that a "common stamp" was insufficiently dignified compared to a matrix.[24]

Use edit

Chief Justice presents seal to President at inauguration.[25]

The signature of the Secretary-General to the President "is essential for the authentication of the Presidential Seal when affixed to a document executed by the [Presidential] Commission under Seal".[26]

Dev introducing the Pres Seal Act said functions requiring seal would be specified by law:

The clear meaning is that a particular document will not have the presidential seal affixed unless the President gives authority to do so. The class of documents to be sealed will be determined either by legislation or by the Constitution. On looking over the Constitution, I found that there are a greater number of documents than I thought where the presidential seal has to be affixed. The difference clearly is between a particular document and a class of document. By legislation you can only indicate the class of document which could be sealed, but, in the case of a particular document, the will of the President would come into operation. In other words, no unauthorised person would act.

Examples are

-- any more?

Query whether incumbent President need only sign self-nomination form, since former president uses same form and has no seal 1937 s.10 rep by 1993 s.17.

The office of the president maintains registers of bills, diplomatic documents, and other "Executed Documents" to which the seal has been applied, older volumes of which are in file PRES 3 of the National Archives of Ireland.[27] The practice with regard to application of the seal to instruments is dealt with in file PRES 1/P.34,[22] and with regard to keeping records in file PRES 1/P.1.[22]

Comparison of UK 1937 practice of great and lesser seals: Stewart, Robert B. (December 1937). "The Great Seal and Treaty-Making in the British Commonwealth" (PDF). Canadian Bar Review. 15 (10): 745–759.

NAI edit

Files in National Archives relating to the Presidential seal
File Ref Date range
President: signature of documents; Presidential Seal Act, 1937 TSCH/3/S10200 B 1937 Dec-Nov 1958
Presidential seal: custody and use 2011/127/48 1974 Dec-Aug 1981
Presidential seal: custody and use TSCH/3/S10425 B/95 1959 Jun
Presidential seal: custody and use TSCH/3/S10425 A 1937 Sep-May 1954
Presidential seal and signature: 1) Signature of documents 2) Presidential Seal Act, 1937 TSCH/3/S10200 A 1937
Presidential seal: design, supply, custody, repairs 2007/125/1 1976
Presidential seal: design, supply, custody, repairs PRES/1/P23 1937-1953
Presidential seal: mechanical operation PRES/1/P34 1937-1949
Presidential seal: authentication PRES/1/P51 1938-1943
Presidential seal: replica for presentation to President on appointment PRES/1/P356 1938-1959
King George VI: request for impression of presidential seal PRES/1/P842 1937-1939
Presidential Seal: Omission in Time of Emergency; Order No. 35 PRES/1/P1777 1940-1951
Presidential seal: sealing of blank warrants PRES/1/P2173 1942
Republic of Ireland Act, 1948: creation etc. of Presidential seal PRES/1/P4260 1949-1950
Presidential Seal: queries including schools. 2018/96/2 1967-1987

Search edit

oireachtas "hand and seal"

Message to House of Oireachtas on Article 26 referral

Article 26 of the Constitution of Ireland

  • 1940-03-06 Seanad Do: CATHAOIRLEACH SEANAD EIREANN. TO: THE CHAIRMAN OF SEANAD EIREANN. I, DOUGLAS HYDE, PRESIDENT OF IRELAND, do hereby inform you that the Supreme Court has decided that the Bill entitled Offences Against the State (Amendment) Bill, 1940 is not repugnant to the Constitution or to any provision thereof. I have accordingly this day signed the said Bill. Given under my hand and Seal this 9th day of February, 1940. (Signed) DUBHGHLAS DE H-ÍDE, Uachtarán na h-Éireann. President of Ireland.
  • 1943-03-10 Seanad I, Douglas Hyde, President of Ireland, do hereby inform you that, after consultation with the Council of State I have this day referred the Bill entitled School Attendance Bill, 1942, to the Supreme Court pursuant to Article 26 of the Constitution for a decision on the question as to whether Section 4 of the said Bill is repugnant to the Constitution or to any provision thereof. / Given under my hand and Seal this 27th day of February, 1943.
    • 1943-04-16 Dáil Seanad I, Douglas Hyde, President of Ireland, do hereby inform you that the Supreme Court has decided that Section 4 of the Bill entitled School Attendance Bill, 1942, is repugnant to the Constitution. / In pursuance therefore of subsection 1º of Section 3 of Article 26 of the Constitution I have this day declined to sign the said Bill. / Given under my hand and Seal this 15th day of April, 1943. / Dubhglas de h-Ide, Uachtarán na h-Éireann, President of Ireland.
  • 1976-03-18 Seanad I, CEARBHALL Ó DÁLAIGH, PRESIDENT OF IRELAND, do hereby inform you that, after consultation with the Council of State, I have this day referred the Bill entitled. / Criminal Law (Jurisdiction) Bill, 1975 / to the Supreme Court pursuant to Article 26 of the Constitution for a decision on the question as to whether the said Bill or any provision or provisions thereof is or are repugnant to the Constitution or to any provision thereof. / Given under my hand and Seal this 10th day of March, 1976.
    • 1976-05-06 Dáil I, Cearbhall Ó Dálaigh, President of Ireland, do hereby inform you that the Supreme Court has decided that the Bill entitled Criminal Law (Jurisdiction) Bill 1975 is not repugnant to the Constitution or to any provision thereof. I have accordingly this day signed the said Bill. Given under my hand and Seal this 6th day of May, 1976. Cearbhall Ó Dálaigh President of Ireland.
  • 2005-01-26 Seanad I, Mary McAleese, President of Ireland, do hereby inform you that, after consultation with the Council of State, I have this day referred the Bill entitled Health (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2004 to the Supreme Court pursuant to Article 26 of the Constitution for a decision on the question as to whether the said Bill or any provisions thereof is or are repugnant to the Constitution or any provisions thereof given under my hand and seal on this day 22 December 2004.
Dissolution of Dáil (proclamation)

Sent to Seanad while still in session, and read into record; read into Dáil record upon reassembly after general election

  • 1951-05-16 Seanad I have received from the Secretary to the President a copy of the Proclamation issued on the 7th May, 1951, dissolving Dáil Éireann and summoning that House to meet on the 13th June, 1951. / I have given directions to have the copy of the Proclamation set out in extenso in the usual manner in the Journal of the House. Consequent on this announcement it will also, of course, be printed in the Official Report of Debates. Following is the Proclamation:—
    Pursuant to an advice tendered to me by the Taoiseach under Section 2 of Article 13 of the Constitution, I, SEÁN T. Ó CEALLAIGH, President of Ireland, hereby dissolve Dáil Éireann on Monday, the 7th day of May, 1951, and summon and call together Dáil Éireann (the members whereof shall have been elected at the forthcoming General Election) to meet in the City of Dublin on Wednesday, the 13th day of June, 1951, at the hour of 3 o'clock in the afternoon for the despatch of such business as shall be submitted to it. / GIVEN UNDER MY HAND AND SEAL THIS 7th DAY OF MAY, 1951. / SEÁN T. Ó CHEALLAIGH, UACHTARÁN NA HÉIREANN (PRESIDENT OF IRELAND). / SEÁN UA COISDEALBHA, TAOISEACH.
  • 1965 scan of copy with L.S.
  • 1982-12-14 Dáil Pursuant to an advice tendered to me by the Taoiseach under section 2 of Article 13 of the Constitution, I, PATRICK J. HILLERY, President of Ireland, hereby dissolve Dáil Éireann on Thursday, the 4th day of November, 1982, and summon and call together Dáil Éireann (the members whereof shall have been elected at the forthcoming General Election) to meet in the city of Dublin on Tuesday, the 14th day of December, 1982, at the hour of 3 o'clock in the afternoon for the despatch of such business as shall be submitted to it.GIVEN UNDER MY HAND AND SEAL THIS 4th DAY OF NOVEMBER, 1982.
Summoning of Seanad
  • 2011-05-25
    PROCLAMATION SUMMONING SEANAD ÉIREANN. / Pursuant to an advice tendered to me by the Taoiseach under section 8 of Article 18 of the Constitution, I, MARY McALEESE, President of Ireland, hereby fix Wednesday, the 25th day of May, 2011, for the first meeting of Seanad Éireann after the General Election lately held. / GIVEN under my hand and seal, this 20th day of May, 2011. / Máire Mhic Ghiolla Íosa ,UACHTARÁN NA hÉIREANN.(PRESIDENT OF IRELAND) / Éanna Ó Coinnigh,TAOISEACH.

Other edit

Resignation as President
  • 1976-10-26
  • "I, Mary Robinson, hereby resign from the office of President of Ireland with effect from 1 p.m. today, 12th September, 1997, given under my hand and seal, the 12th day of September, 1997".[28]
Pardon

Non-examples edit

  • Notice of Council of State meeting, sent by Secretary on behalf of President.[29]

External edit

The Free State's separate External Great Seal remained in existence for diplomatic documents sealed by George VI under the Executive Authority (External Relations) Act 1936. In practice the seal of the Minister for External Affairs (now the Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade) was used to avoid recourse to the British monarch. The Republic of Ireland Act 1948 transferred remaining functions from the monarch to the President, so that the Presidential seal replaced the External Great Seal. However, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade has retained the custom of sealing instruments of ratification and accession to treaties with the seal of the minister (or, failing that, the Taoiseach) rather than of the President. The same is true for Full Powers instruments, except in relation to the Treaties of the European Union, where the Presidential seal is used.[30]

References edit

Sources edit

  • McDunphy, Michael (1945). "XXIII: The Presidential Seal". The President of Ireland: His Powers, Functions and Duties. Dublin: Browne and Nolan. pp. 87–89. Retrieved 8 May 2019.

Citations edit

  1. ^ Presidential Seal Act, 1937
  2. ^ Constitution of Ireland, Article 27.5.1°, 27.6
  3. ^ Constitution of Ireland, Article 31.3, 31.7
  4. ^ Constitution of Ireland, Article 33.5.3°
  5. ^ Constitution of Ireland, Article 35.4.3°
  6. ^ Constitution of Ireland, Articles 13.3.1°, 25.2, 25.3, 27.6, 46.5
  7. ^ Constitution of Ireland, Article 25.5.2°
  8. ^ "President Presents Taoiseach With Seal Of Office". Diary. Office of the President of Ireland. 14 June 2017. Retrieved 24 April 2019.
  9. ^ "Photo: President Higgins signing the Warrants". @PresidentIRL. Twitter. 16 April 2019.
  10. ^ Constitution of Ireland, Article 13.5.2°
  11. ^ Stewart, Robert B. (1937). "The Great Seal and Treaty Making in the British Commonwealth". Canadian Bar Review. XV (10): 745–759: 744–745.
  12. ^ "Nomination of Members of Government: Motion". Dáil Éireann (19th Dáil) debates. Oireachtas. 8 May 1970. Retrieved 24 April 2019.
  13. ^ O'Toole & Dooney 2009 p.34
  14. ^ @PresidentIRL [Office of the President of Ireland] (14 June 2017). "President Michael D. Higgins today presented An Taoiseach, @campaignforleo, with his Warrant of Appointment and Seal of Office". Twitter. Retrieved 24 April 2019.
  15. ^ "Lot 383 : 2004 (8 June) European Council Justice and Home Afairs [sic] Meeting under Irish Presidency commemorative medal". Auction Catalogue: HISTORY, LITERATURE & COLLECTIBLES; SATURDAY 17 OCTOBER 2015 AT 11AM (PDF). Whytes. 28 September 2015. p. 132. Retrieved 25 April 2019.
  16. ^ Rabbitte, Pat; Parliamentary Labour Party (October 2003). "Putting Our House In Order: Dáil Reform, Parliamentary Oversight And Government Accountability" (PDF). p. 32. Retrieved 24 April 2019.
  17. ^ a b Woods, Una (2014). "The demise of the seal and the validity of certain deeds" (PDF). Irish Jurist (1935-). 51: 190–203. ISSN 0021-1273. JSTOR 44027283. Retrieved 1 May 2019.
  18. ^ First National Securities Ltd v Jones
  19. ^ http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2009/act/27/section/64/enacted/en/html#sec64 Land and Conveyancing Law Reform Act 2009 s.64(2)(b)(i–ii)]
  20. ^ Brazier, Rodney (1997). Ministers of the Crown. Clarendon. pp. 84–85 including footnotes. ISBN 9780198259886. Retrieved 1 May 2019.
  21. ^ "Harp Emblem - 20th century to the present day". An Chomhairle Leabharlanna (Irish Library Council). Retrieved 17 May 2011.
  22. ^ a b c Office of the Secretary to the President (20 November 1937). "PRES 1/P 23". National Archives of Ireland. Retrieved 17 May 2011.
  23. ^ a b McDunphy 1945 p.88
  24. ^ a b "In Committee on Finance. - Presidential Seal Bill, 1937—Committee Stage". Dáil Éireann (9th Dáil) debates. Oireachtas. 24 November 1937. Retrieved 24 April 2019.
  25. ^ Anderson, Nicola (12 November 2018). "Pomp, ceremony and laughter as Michael D takes office for second stint in the Áras". Independent.ie. Retrieved 24 April 2019.
  26. ^ "Administrative history of the Office of the Secretary to the President". "Views of Four Presidencies (1938-1975)" - exhibition of the records of the Office of the Secretary to the President. National Archives of Ireland. Retrieved 25 April 2019.
  27. ^ "Office of Secretary to the President: registers". Catalogue. National Archives of Ireland. Retrieved 24 April 2019.; "Record series descriptions (continued)". Exhibition of the records of the Office of the Secretary to the President. National Archives of Ireland. Retrieved 24 April 2019.
  28. ^ Siggins, Lorna (13 September 1997). "Outgoing seventh president recalls risks she took for peace". The Irish Times. Retrieved 24 April 2019.
  29. ^ "Notice issued by President Douglas Hyde dated 6 January 1940, convening a meeting of the Council of State at Áras an Uachtaráin at 4pm on 8 January 1940". Exhibition of the records of the Office of the Secretary to the President. nationalarchives. Retrieved 25 April 2019.
  30. ^ "Treaties". Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade. pp. Tabs "Consent to be Bound", "Full Powers". Retrieved 24 April 2019. {{cite web}}: Invalid |no-pp=Y (help)