Draft: Impaakt Submission declined on 17 August 2021 by HitroMilanese (talk). edit

Hi,

Thank you very much for reviewing my work and for your help. I really appreciate it.

I am part of the Impaakt community and I was searching for Impaakt on Wikipedia. Since I could not find an article about the platform I thought that initiating one could be interesting for my personal experience, and because Impaakt and Wikipedia work on the same model. Moreover, I hoped that more experienced Wikipedian would contribute to my article.

While searching about Impaakt, I found this page: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impak_Finance about a similar company. However, I struggle to understand how it was possible that this article was published: (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impak_Finance) and that mine (Draft:Impaakt) was rejected. In fact, both articles look quite similar. Do you know the reason?

Would you have any additional advices to help me get my first article published on Wikipedia? Is there a way for me to get contributions from experienced Wikipedians on my Draft:Impaakt ?

Once again, thank you very much for your help and your time.

Best-

Hello there,
There are two points that I would like you to understand.
  1. French Wikipedia and English Wikipedia have similar notability guidelines to some extent but the bar of inclusion is much higher at English Wikipedia. Please see WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. Unless these notability guidelines are satisfied, the draft will not be accepted.
  2. Secondly, you should check WP:OTHERSTUFF. Argument based solely on whether other articles do or do not exist is not considered acceptable at Wikipedia.
Hitro talk 13:21, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Alain Guélis edit

Bonjour Hitro Milanese, vous avez refusé mon article sur Alain Guélis musicien compositeur, vous avez certainement des raisons tout a fait louables et je ne demande qu'a recevoir vos conseils car j'ai du mal, toutefois vous indiquez qu'il est potentiellement notable--AMPYTRION (talk) 09:59, 19 August 2021 (UTC), effectivement j'ai pris des références dans la page que vous donnez en réduisant énormément et en essayantle plus possible et rester neutre et de réduire toute orientation publicitaire, mais pas assez sans doute; que préconisez vous pour rende l'article acceptable ? j'ai trouvé de nombreuses sources et fiches d'autorité publiques, j'avais supprimé les liens youtube auparavant; faut il changer l'introduction, faut il y mettre des liens ? j'attends vos conseils avec plaisir car un peu perdue.; --AMPYTRION (talk) 09:59, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

@AMPYTRION:, Bonjour AMPYTRION, I'll prefer to respond to your message in English. Please see these guidelines WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. A musician's biography must satisfy either of these two guidelines in order to get accepted at English Wikipedia. I checked the "Presse" section in the artist's official website where I found some coverage in reputable newspapers. You may include those references in the draft and resubmit it. A reviewer will review those references and accept the article if they believe that above-mentioned guidelines are met. Regards. Hitro talk 06:08, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello Hitro Milanese, Thank you very much for your comments and advice that I followed, I read the wiki links that you suggested to me and I actually saw the press links 2 Figaro reviews (1 and 19 and concertonet.com on the website of the 'artist) I also found in his page listening to videos that I linked to TV shows from National channels or very young, he is invited to perform his piano music alongside guests like the Bee Gees, Simone Signoret or the Eagles as well as in other programs alongside Dalida star at the time which seems interesting to me, even if her register remains obviously totally classical music; I also found various concerts in Japan Suntory Hall and France Th champs élysées, salle gaveau, or Auditorium du Louvre and also one of his film scores appears at the Cannes Film Festival 2021 (4), it is also mentioned in a nomenclature of works for piano and orchestra by musicology professor in the USA Dr Allan Bo (link 2) so perhaps is it potentially sufficiently notable? should all these links be inserted or is it too much? you told me about a reviewer who would decide whether or not the article was eligible, if I resubmit it, will it be directed to this potential reviewer? and especially before, do you see important modifications to make ... thank you again for your invaluable help.

AMPYTRION (talk) 17:27, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

@AMPYTRION:, Hello AMPYTRION, thank you for your message. I do agree with most of the points that you made above. However, there are some presentation issues with the draft too. It is not well formatted and translation does not seem to be perfect. You may want to check WP:MOS and format the draft is accordance with standard Wikipedia formatting. This will help in navigating as well as reviewing and verifying the presented sources.
I do believe that you should include as much reliable references as you can. This will help in establishing notability. I do believe the subject is potentially notable as there are some coverage in standard newspapers like Le Figaro. However, I do think that changes in formatting should be made before re-submission. Regards. Hitro talk 07:37, 26 August 2021 (UTC)


Thank you Hitro milanese, for your encouraging advice, it motivates me to continue, I read the wikipedia recommendations of presentation, I tried to improve as much as possible, it seems to me that it is better, but I'm not sure, I redid the titles according to what is said in the heading and it created lines on each side, ==Title== I'm not sure that it is correct? and I didn't understand how to create the short description at the beginning that leads when you click on the different sections, I also corrected the authority control section so that the url doesn't appear anymore which was incorrect, but there is certainly a lot to do...don't hesitate to give me new instructions. best regards

--AMPYTRION (talk) 20:22, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@AMPYTRION:, Hello there, I have fixed the title section and section navigator as you were trying to do. However, there are lot of work to do. Currently, the draft appears more like a catalogue than an encyclopedic article. There should be more prose than the listing of the artist's work. Please try to expand early life and career segment of the artist. Make sure to divide these info in proper section. References to reliable sources for verification is most important. The info from the artist's website is not considered a reliable source. Secondly, a lot of cleaning is required in other sections of the draft. It is better to list only his important and notable works than listing his entire work. Let me know if you need more info. Regards. Hitro talk 06:35, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much hitro milanese for your new remarks and for installing the "content" window and the famous {modify code} which I was quite unable to understand the process. In two words, how do I do it and if I want to add titles or sections?

If not, you tell me that I need more development in the text, I will try to follow your precious advice by expanding some paragraphs; for example by creating a paragraph "about his music" for example, you will give me your opinion.

You tell me that it is better to talk about the important works than to quote everything because there are many; I agree but the only problem is how to define, in relation to the artist, those which are the most notable; for the piano where there are more than 60 pieces, I don't know which ones to choose? but for example, instead of quoting in detail each piece for piano those which form a group, I summarised them by 4 studies, 3 poetic visions, 2 poetic impressions, 4 evocations or 5 fantasies, which will greatly reduce the "catalogue" effect

For the sources you told me that the sources coming from the artist's site are not considered valid, I understand this objection perfectly but what poses a problem for me is that for the articles of the Figaro which are important sources you had underlined, I looked at them and they are only found on their site because one finds few on the net, old articles from the Figaro, and finally the videos of TV shows such as the RDV du dimanche by M. Drucker where he interprets his music in a very important program in France at the time and very watched devoted also to the Bee gees, to Simone Signoret, Jane Birkin, the Eagles or Jean Rochefort what proves a certain notoriety, one finds it only on his site except and I am categorical on the site of the INA PRO or one finds them well as well as others, but which requires a subscription to which I have access, but not accessible to the public free thus one cannot establish direct Web links on this Site. Note however that out of 41 sources there are only 7 that link to the artist's site. Of which 2 I am going to delete: n°2 (figaro) n°14(Japanese press ISSN 0911 3347) n°15 and16(concert programmes, maybe not necessary) n°18 (TV) 22 (US press) 31 (Film press) I deleted 15 and 16 which are only concert programmes but for one of them I found a programme archive site; there are only 5 sources left from the artist's site out of 41 for the time being So I am trying to improve little by little, you will give me your opinion and your advice.

Thank you in advance.

--AMPYTRION (talk) 17:27, 11 September 2021 (UTC)


Hello Hitro Milanese, I just forgot in my previous message that I also found video archives of the artist when he was a child before being a pianist, where he played small comedy roles for French TV, that's in the INA Pro archives but not in free access, but also on tis site, I know very welle that the artists' sites are not really valid sources but they are the only publi ones, i found that all the same fun, so I cited the link; maybe this is interesting? Kind regards

--AMPYTRION (talk) 20:45, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello dear Hitro Milanese I hope you are well, I am coming back to you because I have made some changes in the direction of your advice, all the details are in my two previous messages, I would like to know if you were able to read them? best regards AMPYTRION (talk) 20:18, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

    AMPYTRION (talk) 20:24, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Uday Ali Pabrai edit

hi Hitro Milanese,

We were unaware of the Wiki’s terms and conditions and the privacy policy,Kindly guide us how to proceed further, is there a possibility to recover the same page or can we create as a new page.

Thanks Syedshawar (talk) 04:14, 23 August 2021 (UTC)syed shawar

@Syedshawar:, Hello Syed, please see WP:GNG. The topic at Wikipedia must satisfy these guidelines in order to be included. Topics failing to meet these inclusion criteria are likely to be rejected or deleted. Regards. Hitro talk 05:57, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Janglinath Mahadev temple edit

Please help me to make this draft in a complete artical Bygonetime (talk) 06:27, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@Bygonetime:, Hello there, please see WP:GNG and add references from independent and reliable sources. Unless the notability guidelines are met, the article will not be accepted. Regards. Hitro talk 06:29, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

About Dasith Gamage's Article edit

You have included the required reference number 4 for WP:MUSICBIO which was required for Dasith Gamage's draft article please feel free to review and publish this again. thank you!

Draft link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dasith_Gamage

Hello there, I checked the references again. The topic is not notable at the moment. Regards. Hitro talk 07:31, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Regarding your statement edit

Hello Hitro, hope you are great. on July 17, you made a statement that nothing much happened since last AFD, on page Draft:Raybak_Abdesselem two days ago that Athlete won a gold medal in 2021 European Youth Championships in Finland, he has been covered by lots of international media and I have updated few references, will you please take a look now?

https://www.ffkarate.fr/championnats-deurope-jeunes-2021-un-second-titre-et-deux-medailles-dargent-pour-conclure/ https://www.karate-k.com/fr/sport/actus/928-tampere2021-abdesselem-et-hierso-en-or.html --Static Hash (talk) 15:15, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@Static Hash:, Hello there, I will leave this for another reviewer, however, I do not think winning a gold medal in a junior championship warrants a standalone article per established guidelines. A gold medal at the senior level is definitely inclusion worthy. Regards. Hitro talk 07:30, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
@HitroMilanese:, Hi, thanks for the reply but I checked the WP:NGYMNASTICS and it says in point 2 that Won an individual gold medal, in the junior division, at an elite international competition* Junior gymnasts are presumed notable if they meet any of the criteria below, so according to point 2, the athlete is passing the notability.

please see this Sophia_Bouderbane --Static Hash (talk) 08:11, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@Static Hash:, Hello Static Hash, according to Martial arts workgroup, notability should be determined as per this essay. I don't think WP:NGYMNASTICS applies here. It would be better if you raise notability questions at the Martial arts workgroup talkpage. I do not find myself well versed on this topic. Regards. Hitro talk 06:45, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Recent rejection on Asit Pattnaik article edit

Hi Hitro, I'm trying to publish my first article as you saw can you help me a little and guide me, exactly where I'm making a mistake, and hoe I can improve my article.

[[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Asit_Pattnaik |Asit Pattnaik]]

@CrVelox: Hello there, I rechecked the draft and available references about the subject. The topic is not sufficiently notable. Please see WP:NPOL and WP:GNG for more info. Regards. Hitro talk 06:21, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

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Draft:University of Michigan-Shanghai Jiao Tong University Joint Institute edit

Hi, HitroMilanese. Thank you very much for reviewing my draft. I notice that my draft was rejected due to lack of reliable sources. Previously, I used only references from the Institute's website. Now that I have included more external sources, could you kindly take a look the updated version please? Many thanks in advance.

Draft deletion edit

Hello. Sorry for the random question but is there anyway to delete a draft? RayJstillhere (talk) 06:57, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

@RayJstillhere: Hi there, please see WP:G7. Regards. Hitro talk 10:28, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Sproutt edit

I added a few more links I found to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sproutt, can you please let me know if these are relevant? To me, they look like they are from notable publications but I'm not that experienced here, so let me know - I'll still keep searching for better references.

Thanks.

Hello there, I still don't see significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. Please see WP:NCOMPANY and WP:CORPDEPTH to understand what sorts of references are essential to demonstrate notability. Regards. Hitro talk 17:43, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I think I understand now the type of content we'll need here - thanks for your help.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kiirya_Beats edit

Hello, i want help in publishing this article please i really need help with this. i really don't know what is missing on this article i need help. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomusange (talkcontribs) 11:24, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Harsh Gujral edit

Hi, Thank you for reviewing my work on Harsh Gujral. You comment said that it does not meet WP:Entertainer. However I failed to understand what clause it does not meet. He is a comedian, has a huge fan base as well. Can you help me understand what clause it does not meet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saritasanghvi (talkcontribs) 08:54, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello there, Please check this discussion, having a huge fan base does not confer notability. Secondly, I do not see how he is meeting criteria no.1 or no.3. Regards. Hitro talk 06:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Hey, Even if we disregard the huge fan base, Point no 1 says "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions" - So he has performed multiple stage performances across India and worldwide. is that not sufficient?

@Saritasanghvi: Hi, That is sufficient, however, please see WP:N and demonstrate that those stage performances were notable. Once notability is established, the draft will be accepted. Regards. Hitro talk 06:34, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
@HitroMilanese: Hi Again, I was just going through the guidelines and I realized that the WP:SNG are being followed. Infact that's where our discussion started. Can you please help me understand what specifically are you looking for? or what exactly is missing, so that I can add that? Thanks a lot for your time and effort.
@Saritasanghvi: Hello there, we are looking for the references in multiple independent and reliable sources where the subject has received significant coverage. Interviews or passing and trivial mentions are not enough. The sources present in the draft such as YouTube, BookMyShow, Instagram, Celeb Bio etc. are not deemed reliable. Other presented sources do not show significant coverage. Regards. Hitro talk 07:13, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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My apologies Hitro! I had not created a subject and believe I may have replied to a different post. I will resubmit my post here again....

Thank you Hitro Milanese for reviewing my first page submission. I am now working on adding more context as you had suggested, but am hoping that you can provide me with just a bit more specific direction? I have added an Infobox and have described more fully what Outsider Art is and how the artist, Andrew Frieder's work fits with that form of art, with citations from prominent national art magazines and organizations tying him to Ousider Art. I am now also creating a brief synopsis of his life history including a description of how his mental illness affected his life and his art. I do have some concerns about adding some of this information as the public sources one could cite have written some things that are incorrect. I am unsure of the best way to proceed in this area. I am hoping that these are some of the items that will add the context you had requested. If not, or if you can clarify, please let me know.

Regards, MitchellMitchellfrieder (talk) 09:57, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello Mitchell, please see WP:FIRST, here you will find all the information related to writing an article at Wikipedia. Secondly, please see WP:GNG and WP:ARTIST, you are required to demonstrate notability as per these guidelines. Only notable topics are included and accepted at Wikipedia. Regards. Hitro talk 06:38, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

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Hello, HitroMilanese,

I saw on Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/List of reviewers by subject that you are a AFC reviewer who has some knowledge of Islam. Could you look over this article? I believe the page creator says it passed AFC review but I find that doubtful. Thanks for any help you can offer. Liz Read! Talk! 02:27, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

@Liz:Hello Liz,
I guess TheAafi has taken care of this article and correctly so. I would have draftified it too. Regards. Hitro talk 07:04, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Help edit

My Submission has been declined. Please help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sundergnan (talkcontribs) 07:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

@Sundergnan: Hello there, please see WP:YFA and improve your submission accordingly. Regards. Hitro talk 07:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Bar Council of Rajasthan edit

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User:Sydneymathis/sandbox / Draft:Frank Rothman edit

You declined this draft of an article Frank Rothman on the basis it did not show notability . But I think you may not have noticed that he was the subject of a full NYTimes obituary, and it has been consistently held in hundreds of afd discussions that this is sufficient evidence of notability to support an article: (there is a question that needs to be checked about the degree of possible copypaste). After this is checked, I will accept the article.

I have also done what we usually do for any serious submission, moved it to the correct place, which is Draft:Frank Rothman DGG ( talk ) 02:11, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

@DGG: Hello, I did notice that, still, with lack of inline citation, it is not determined whether the draft is properly sourced. As of now it appears that large portion of this submission is unsourced. Regards. Hitro talk 07:27, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
-- unsourced material can be removed. There should be enough in the NYT obit. I knoq opinion can differ about whether to do it ourself or send it back'; if it's easy, I just do it, it's simpler than explaining. DGG ( talk ) 10:16, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback! edit

HitroMilanese, thank you for your speedy feedback. Much appreciated. I removed the IMDB reference/text, and added a newer reference that is 3rd party for the one film where that was applicable.

Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teaspoontornado (talkcontribs) 23:50, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

@Teaspoontornado:, Hello there, I am still not convinced that WP:MUSICBIO is met, however, I will leave this one for another reviewer. Regards. Hitro talk 06:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Alain Guélis edit

Hello hitro milanese, I did not get any answer from you concerning the article on the composer Alain Guélis, I made a certain number of modifications in the direction of your recommendations; I would like to advance with your invaluable advice.

Sincerely

--AMPYTRION (talk) 21:22, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@AMPYTRION:, Hello there, I apologize if I missed your message earlier. I suggest you to submit the draft and wait for someone to review it. Regards. Hitro talk 06:20, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello Hitro Milanese, thanks for replying, so I'll try to submit my article, but what I'd really like to avoid is it being deleted altogether and having to start all over again, how do I get the draft back in that case?

AMPYTRION (talk) 19:07, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

HitroMilanese Please assist would be greatly appreciated edit

Recently submitted an article about TCG World and was declined due to references. What do I need to do to get the article approved? Any advice would be greatly appreciated:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metaverse man (talkcontribs) 05:47, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello there, additional references in independent and reliable sources are essential to demonstrate notability per WP:GNG. Avoid using primary and self published sources. Also see WP:INLINE and fix the inline citation appropriately. Regards. Hitro talk 06:53, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft Alain Guélis edit

Hi Hitro Milanese, thanks for replying, so I'll try to submit my article, but what I'd really like to avoid is it being deleted altogether and having to start all over again, how do I get the draft back in that case?

--AMPYTRION (talk) 19:08, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello Ampytrion, drafts won't be deleted unless it goes unedited for 6 months. In case your draft gets deleted then you can always request for undeletion at WP:REFUND. Regards. Hitro talk 08:53, 1 January 2022 (UTC)