Template:Did you know nominations/Madeline Rogero

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The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 18:22, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Madeline Rogero edit

  • Comment: I've also made significant edits to the article, but Bms4880 deserves sole credit (at least as things stand right now).

Created/expanded by Bms4880 (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 05:12, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

  • Length and timeliness checks: Prose size (text only): 7222 characters (1130 words) "readable prose size". Article created by Bms4880 on January 5, 2012. Hook formatting and length checks. No images for a copyright issue. Used plagiarism checker. No problems. The only bit of duplication found is clearly a quote.
  • Article reads neutral enough to me, and doesn't set off any big red flags.
  • Hook source does not mention Cesar Chavez at all, just United Farm Workers. I might leave it out as I think it could give the perception of bias given the source. With out it, I would pass. --LauraHale (talk) 10:41, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
    • Rogero has mentioned Chavez several times, including on her campaign website [1] and in a Metro Pulse interview [2], but if it creates bias, I have no problem changing it. Bms4880 (talk) 14:31, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
      • I've added three more sources to the article. The name César Chávez gets far more recognition than the bland-sounding "United Farm Workers," and Rogero actually seems to mention his name more often than she mentions the union. She is proud of saying she's the only person who has worked for César Chávez, Dolly Parton, and Colin Powell. --Orlady (talk) 15:04, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
  • I see no problem with the phrasing--the genitive is appropriate, methinks, and the connection between her and the union is verified. Please give Orlady credit also: they've done significant work on the article, and 64 DYKs is a bit paltry, of course. Congrats to Ms. Rogero, BTW--I say this as a former Old North Knoxvillian. Drmies (talk) 16:05, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
  • I've changed Orlady's credit from nom to make per Drmies' suggestion. And I've also got a suggestion. I think this should be saved for March 8, International Women's Day. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 21:01, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
So moved. --PFHLai (talk) 02:08, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
  • I'm concerned that some of the phrasing used in this article may be too close to that of its sources, particularly these two. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:26, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
    • The UT source has: "The final component in her plan addresses quality of life issues such as parks and greenways, arts and cultures, historic preservation, alternative transportation and linking economic growth", which I rendered as "The final component was to address quality of life issues, namely greenways, arts, and historic preservation, and link them to economic growth." The Metro Pulse questionnaire has "I would like to have stronger tools in place for dealing with vacant and blighted properties and have significantly reduced the problem in Knoxville", which I rendered as "She also wants stronger tools in place for dealing with blighted properties." The questionnaire also has "As mayor, I will implement the Energy and Sustainability Plan produced this past year by Mayor Haslam’s Energy and Sustainability Task Force, which I co-chaired. We will continue to expand sustainability and green infrastructure development standards in city projects and promote energy efficiency, use of solar power, use of hybrid and electric vehicles, reduction in consumption, and recycling", which I rendered as "implementing the Haslam administration's Energy and Sustainability Plan,[24] which will expand green infrastructure development standards..." Are these the offending phrases? Bms4880 (talk) 14:54, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
      • I removed those items from the article. They were in the section title "Mayoral term," but they were in fact statements of positions from her campaign. Now that she's been in office for a couple of months, the information seems outdated to me. --Orlady (talk) 15:29, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
        • Please re-review. --Orlady (talk) 15:32, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
          • Time for a re-review? Fresh eyes? Anyone? --PFHLai (talk) 11:17, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
  • looks good to me.--Ishtar456 (talk) 03:18, 24 March 2012 (UTC)