Template:Did you know nominations/Kerala Soil Museum

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The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 04:11, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Kerala Soil Museum edit

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... that India's ~~first~~ soil Museum, the Kerala Soil Museum is the ~~world's largest~~ of its kind?

Reviewed: not a self nom

Created by Krishnachandranvn (talk). Nominated by Gfosankar (talk) at 08:01, 7 January 2014 (UTC).

Nominated three days after creation, and is about 2400 characters, satisfying date and length criteria. (It also satisfies length criteria when excluding the 600 character list.) The quotations "the first Soil Museum in India having international standards" and "the largest such museum in the world" are preceded by "it is claimed", instead of stating the name of the speakers (Chandy and Premachandran, respectively). There are copyvio issues; for example, the sentence "The project team was trained by experts from Wageningen University in the Netherlands, which hosts the World Soil Museum" is copied directly from this newspaper article (ref #2). This and any other copyvio or close paraphrasing must be removed or changed. Also, every paragraph or list must be have a citation, which is currently not the case. The section for KFRI Soil Museum is superfluous and appears to be padding this article; it belongs on the article Kerala Forest Research Institute, not this one, though a brief mention or "see also" link is acceptable. Mind matrix 19:03, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Kerala Soil Museum, ~~the first such museum in India, is the world's largest soil museum~~?

Nomination withdrawn. --Gfosankar (talk) 08:31, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Why? The issues look like they should be resolvable. --Orlady (talk) 14:50, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree. These issues are relatively minor and could be resolved with a nominal investment of time. Mind matrix 15:11, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

I did some rewriting on the article to address the copyvio issues and increase the prose length to >1500 characters (the bulleted list in the previous version didn't count as prose). I don't believe that either the original hook or ALT1 is valid. Although at least one source called this the first soil museum in India, the article mentioned another soil museum in Kerala, and I added a reference citation that confirms that statement. Also, some of the sources suggest that "world's largest" may be arguable -- this one has the most soil monoliths, but that's not the only possibly metric for museum size. I suggest some alt hook language:

ALT2: ... that Kerala Soil Museum, which opened in India on January 1, has been described as the world's largest soil museum? --Orlady (talk) 06:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Time for a fresh review! --Orlady (talk) 06:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

ALT3: ... that Kerala Soil Museum in India, which opened on January 1, has been described as the world's largest soil museum?

Updates have removed copyvio, and all new additions are properly sourced. Hook ALT2 (or the slightly altered version ALT3 I've included above) is OK and supported with citation in text. Good to go. Mind matrix 02:28, 17 January 2014 (UTC)