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This title needs a disambiguation page. edit

The Lovin' Spoonful have an album by the same title which is directing to this page.

I agree. The title definitely needs a disambiguation page. Can someone who is logged in, create one?

May's not Macy's edit

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Look closely. The signs in the department store scene clearly say "May's", not "Macy's". May's was a budget department store chain in the NYC area at that time specializing in budget women's clothing. The stainless steel escalators, clothing racks, carts etc. clearly indicate that it was shot there and not at Macy's flagship store, which still has wooden escalators and no shopping carts to this day. I'm a native born New Yorker and had been in both stores at that time.GCW50 (talk) 23:09, 4 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi, thank you for noting that. I have to admit when I watched the film, I too noticed that not only does the sign on the exterior building say "May's" (which I figured was just a case of Coppola using a different exterior building and then shooting the interior inside Macy's) but also if you look closely as the characters run past the round racks of clothing, there are little signs on top of all the racks that spell "MAYS" not Macy's. I wondered whether perhaps Macy's wouldn't let them use the name or what was going on. I am not from NYC so wasn't sure what "Mays" was (we had a May chain of department stores in my area growing up elsewhere, but that was a regional chain and did not operate in NYC).

The problem is that Gene D. Phillips and other authors who've written about Coppola say it's Macy's, and Phillips actually mentions the name Macy's a number of times so it can't be dismissed as just a typo. Once you get a print source by an expert (who has his own Wiki page) saying it's Macy's, that can't be deleted based just on an editor's personal recognizance that it's probably Mays, even though you are most likely correct. You have to find another reliable source and quote that because otherwise it's "original research" (OR) and not allowed on Wikipedia. Looking visually at the film and seeing the words "Mays" may not be enough to take it out of the OR realm without a print source. Fortunately I was able to find one, Lou Lumenick, who also said it was the Herald Square Mays so I included that.

Also, the best practice is to note a source conflict exists right in the article for something substantive like this (i.e. not just a possible typo in Phillips' book) because otherwise someone else will come along who read the Phillips book or other sources saying it's "Macy's" and just change it back, plus it's verging on OR to prefer one reliable source over another. So, I put back all the Macy's stuff but also added that the signage in the film all says Mays and Lumenick's article says it's Mays and the sources conflict. I think that about covers it. Thank you again for helping to clear that up. (By the way if you're an old New Yorker then if you haven't seen it already you should check out the Todd Berkun blog I cited in the Mays part, it's pretty cool.) Cheers, TheBlinkster (talk) 17:47, 6 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

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