Talk:Yangshan Quarry

Latest comment: 12 years ago by Vmenkov in topic How did they not see this coming?

How did they not see this coming? edit

Does anyone have any insight into how the planners didn't foresee that the stele would be impossible to move? --Doradus (talk) 13:36, 20 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

My main source (Yang and Lu, 2001) doesn't say a word on the decision-making involved beyond what I wrote in the article. My own personal guess (which, of course, may be wide off the mark) is that Yongle's engineers must have had a good idea of the problem from the very beginning (it is not for nothing that the 17-meter 12th-century stele from Shou Qiu is called Wan Ren Chou - "10,000 Men's Sorrow"), but everyone was afraid to break the news to the emperor. I wonder sometimes if the same was the case with the famous (and somewhat controversial) "44-zhang long, 18-zhang wide" (roughly 130 m by 54 m) treasure ships supposedly built for Zheng He's fleet at exactly the same time...
I will be on lookout for any research that would shed more light on this story, but I am not that optimistic that anyone has said a definitive word on this. I understand that the actual references to this project in Yongle era documents are quite sparse (some very brief entries in Ming Shilu, and similarly brief references in a few other contemporary works), so we may never know... By the way, there are interesting artefacts from that period - such as the "lost tortoise" near Ming Xiaoling - for which there may be no known textual references at all, after all. -- Vmenkov (talk) 20:01, 20 September 2011 (UTC)Reply