Talk:Vlatko Vuković/Archive 1

Archive 1

Kosovo

Hello. This may be out of your scope of interest, in which case apologies. We've tried to invite various contributors with an interest in Serbia. There's a discussion and vote going on at Talk:Kosovo#Kosovo:_terminology as to whether or not it's better to use Kosovo rather than Kosovan or Kosovar in the Wikipedia articles. There's also a discussion going on Talk:List of countries as to whether or not Kosovo should be included in that list. Cheers. DSuser 16:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

ethnicity/nationality

I reverted an edit from an anonymous POV pusher, but then looked at the history and noticed a bunch of Serbian vs. Croatian rivalry. Can we please hash it out on talk? Preferably quoting respectable historians? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:55, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Vlatko is Bosnian. So, he is Bosnjanin. Bosnjanin mean Bosniak. He is Bosniak bro. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Strickrsss (talk • contribs) 20:20, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

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I've made few small changes to the article. Firstly I changed Turks into Ottomans as this is more proper. Secondly I changed Serbian army into Bosnian/Serbian army. Reason for this is that the army did not only contain serbian forces but Serbian, Bosnian and Hungarian. I guess that the most proper wording should be balkan alliance or something like that. Thirdly i removed the category. --EmirA 19:32, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

All correct, but why add "Bosnian/Serbian"? It isn't really going to change because of just some mercinaries fighting in a foreign army, besides - Vlatko is himself described as a Serbian nobleman in Bosnia. --HolyRomanEmperor 16:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Holy, can you please provide source which claims that Tvrtko is "serbian nobleman"? I changed it to Bosnian / Serbian because it was not few bosnian mercinaries fighting but one whole flank which was consisting of bosnian forces. Thus it is not serbian army but mixed bosnian / serbian army. --EmirA 21:25, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

He is quoted as such in the Dubrovnik Achive, by Mauro Orbini. Aside from that, the Kosaca were a Medieval Serb family... --PaxEquilibrium 21:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Pax!

Feel free to express yourself at the talk page and lets talk about not only vlatko but all bosnian kings, bans and vojvodas! Alkalada 13:56, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Until we find a compromise which I will try to get, I will remove all your edits and replace it will my edits that I edited before. I just want to point out that the Kosaca were neither serbian nor orthodox.

So much for your argument Alkalada 13:57, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Well considering that nothing's disputed, nothing needs to be discussed. ;) --PaxEquilibrium 20:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Question, if Herceg Stjepan/Stefan whatever Kosača made a chuch of Saint George for the Serbian Orthodox Church (near todays town of Goražde) then where do you guys get this idea that Kosača were members of the Bosnian Church? And hence why do you cite Vlatko's religion as Bosnian Church, if Kosača made Churches for Serbian Orthodox Church? I think you need to rectify this, either delete the Religion part as a whole or clearly put Serbian Orthodox Church. Eastern Herzegovina was never under Bosnian Church, anyways. the founder of the Serbian Orthodox Church was given the lands of Hum (modern day Herzegovina) from his father before he became a monk. For sources, you can simply look at wiki page on the Saint George Church near Goražde. I don't want to start any ridicules quarrels on this, but to leave his Religion as Bosnian Church simply doesn't seem logical at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.223.144.7 (talk) 13:33, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Move

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 08:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

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Vlatko Vuković, Grand Duke of Bosnia → Vlatko Vuković –

His title shouldn't be part of the article name, since "Vlatko Vuković" refers to this person only.--Zoupan 11:06, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Agree! Thank you. Praxis Icosahedron (talk) 11:42, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

• Support; sounds reasonable to me. Presumably we'll leave a redirect behind? bobrayner (talk) 12:48, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
• Support. Zero post-1990 English-language GBooks hits for the current title, 62 (33 deghosted) for the proposed title. The subject is often given as Duke Vlatko Vukovic,[1] but I don't see anyone calling him "grand duke," either before or after the name. This article is already primary topic, so there is no disambiguation issue. Kauffner (talk) 16:39, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
• Comment. His full name was Vlatko Vuković Kosača. I think this move would be better.--Kebeta (talk) 14:59, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

"Vlatko Vuković Kosača" (5 res.) versus "Vlatko Vuković" (378). He was known as Vlatko Vuković, and was a member of the Kosača. In Cyrillic script: "Влатко Вуковић Косача" (1) versus "Влатко Вуковић" (563).--Zoupan 15:09, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Everybody knows Josip Broz as Tito, nevertheless the name of the article is Josip Broz Tito, since Josip Broz was his full name. He should be moved to his full name (Vlatko Vuković Kosača). --Kebeta (talk) 17:40, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

• Support: "most common form of the name used in reliable sources in English" --Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:41, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

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