Talk:Vladimir Voinovich

Voinovich and Solzhenitsyn

I seem to recall that Voinovich is a pretty severe critic of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn; it that is so then it eventually should be included in the article. Hi There 10:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I've already added it to the Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn article, so I think that this section could be incorporated here, with some necessary rearrangements.--Vitriden 12:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

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I didn't know Ivo Voinović was a Serbian writer. When I get to heaven I will be sure to inform him of it.

Edy 78.0.243.100 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:10, 30 April 2009 (UTC).

Good luck! Don't be surprised if the answer turns out to be: Duh... If you end up there in the first place, of course ;) --79.101.65.159 (talk) 20:30, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Vladimir Voinovich and Ivo Vojnović

"His ancestor, Ivo Vojnović, was a prominent writer from Dubrovnik." - that is not truth. Vladimir Voinovich never said or wrote it. --Montegorn (talk) 07:53, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

"Removed unsourced information"

It was perfectly sourced, taken from Voinovich's memoirs at his personal site - the link is still there: There is no reason to place links after every single sentense. And his filmography is traditionally linked ti his IMDb profile which is in the External links. AveTory (talk) 11:26, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

• Correcting myself: it's not his personal site of course, but the excerpts are officially from his 2010 book.AveTory (talk) 11:36, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

• Hi, sorry I upset you with my edits, but I'm trying to help out here, not vandalise. If you think any of my edits were too bold, please feel free to revert them. But I do believe that the self-biography could be challenged as a primary source, and the IMDb database has its own problems. Since the list of filmography is the same as the list in IMDb, why not avoid the problem by simply referring to the external link? As for the layout of the article, feel free to come up with a better suggestion, I'm not too happy about how it turned out myself. But as I said, I'm trying to help you out here. Yakikaki (talk) 11:46, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Sorry, I'm not accusing you of actually vandalising the article, it was a matter of speech) It was about removing large chunks of information. At the time I added it, I didn't think much about adding multiple references after every paragraph/important piece of info and just placed links that summarized whole sections, like his early life. It is indeed an autobiography, but, as he personally states, many of the facts were practically unknown before - he either didn't speculate about them or didn't have enough information on his ancestry, his father's fate, etc. Btw according to him, his father was on trial until 1938, being held in prison, only then he was sent to labor camps, then released in 1941. So this is one point where secondary sources might be wrong (and Radio Liberty is generally a non-neutral source as far as history goes). AveTory (talk) 12:08, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

You are welcome to fix it. My very best wishes (talk) 03:32, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

References

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This edit. I do believe this image is out of place here. Yes, he received the award, and we said about it. What this image suppose to show? That he likes Putin? In fact, the subject is famous for his criticism of Russian state[1]. The image was imported by a banned user as one of several thousands of similar propaganda images he took from Kremlin.ru. My very best wishes (talk) 15:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Propaganda image or no, this appears to be an undoctored image of an event that took place. Voinovich didn't have to attend; clearly he didn't hate Putin as much in 2001 as he did in 2015. I don't think there's anything misleading about this image, and it shows an important event in Voinovich's life. Korny O'Near (talk) 20:31, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

No one said he hated anyone. Why do we need this additional image? What it suppose to explain or demonstrate? Apparently nothing? We already provided image of Voinovich in the infobox. Do we need this image as an advertisement of his significance? I do not think so. My very best wishes (talk) 20:44, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

It shows what he looked like in 2001, if nothing else... and the fact that an anti-Soviet dissident was willing to shake hands with Putin in 2001 may actually communicate quite a bit to those who are interested in Russian history. Korny O'Near (talk) 20:51, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

He was happy to receive the award and did not mind shaking his hand with Putin in 2001. This is all. Why do you think this is so significant to be illustrated by the image? An unsuspected reader may think he was a friend of Putin after looking at the image. That is misleading. Did you read any books by this author, for example that one? My very best wishes (talk) 20:57, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

OK, perhaps you are right. It is interesting. I only corrected the legend. My very best wishes (talk) 21:50, 1 August 2018 (UTC)