Talk:United States Deputy Secretary of Defense

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Eyer in topic Capitalization

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In the absence of a Secretary of Defense the Deputy Secretary of Defense can act as the Secretary, but he doesn't become the Secretary and doesn't have any particular priority in becoming the next Secretary.


Early, Lovett

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This was in the article but I am moving it here because it doesn't make sense. It was not in the "List" section but seems to indicate they were deputy secretaries.

  • Stephen T. Early 1949 - 1950
  • Robert A. Lovett 1950 - 1951

James H. Douglas

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I took out the link to James H. Douglas. The problem is that James H. Douglas redirects to Jim Douglas, the current Governor of Vermont (Whose middle initial is also H.) In fact, neither of these people are on the James Douglas disambiguation page. I'll fix these problems soon. FerralMoonrender (MyTalkMyContribsEmailMe) 03:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Robert Ellsworth?

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I'm confused. Our article on Robert Fred Ellsworth says that he served as deputy secretary of defense, and the Biographical Directory of the United States Congress agrees (it says he served under Ford from December 1975 to January 1977). But he's not on this list. What's up? —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 02:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Robert Fred Ellsworth filled the position of Second Deputy Secretary of Defense (23 DECEMBER 1975–10 JANUARY 1977), created by PL 92–956 in 1972 but not previously filled. Position was abolished by PL 95–140, 21 October 1977. (see Department of Defense Key Officials 1947–2015) — Archer1234 (talk) 17:09, 24 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Norquist: acting or performing the duties of

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According to the DoD website defense.gov, Norquist is Performing the Duties of Deputy Defense Secretary (at Today in DoD) and Performing the Duties of the Deputy Secretary of Defense (Nordquist bio). It does not say he is Acting Deputy Secretary of Defense. Contrast that with what it says for Shanahan where it says that he is Acting Secretary of Defense. Might there be a statutory/legal definition of acting that means it applies in Shanahan's case, but not in Norquist's case? I understand that Shanahan intends to resume being DepSecDef as soon as a new SecDef is confirmed by the Senate, so could that be the reason why Norquist is not formally considered to be acting? Did President Trump name Nordquist as acting DepSecDef or was it just that Shanahan delegated his DepSecDefduties on his own authority? Are there any implications from this that need to be incorporated into this article (and others like Norquist's and Shanahan's) or should the articles use a more common/layman's understanding of acting?

Archer1234 (talk) 20:00, 3 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Capitalization

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Note "the deputy secretary of state" is uncapitalized because "deputy secretary of state" is preceded by modifier "the", per MOS:JOBTITLES bullet 3 and table column 2, example 1: "Richard Nixon was the president of the United States." Any proposal for modification to the guideline should be posted at its talk page, WT:MOSBIO. —Eyer (If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message to let me know.) 22:41, 23 July 2019 (UTC)Reply