Talk:USS Thresher (SS-200)

Gettin' carriered away

The article says an aircraft carrier attacked & a separate convoy from which 2 ships sunk, Blair p.538 says a convoy escorted by one & these ships sunk from it. Which is it? Trekphiler 17:44, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Watch your language

A few points.

"plant"

A couple of mines is less a "field" than a "plant".

"passenger freighter"

It's a freighter taking fares....

"changed their zigzag plan"

Not without evidence. More probably, the firecontrol team just missed a zig.

"ran true"

Considering the manifold problems & erratic performance of the MkXIV, this is valid.

"Tracking until sunset"

How else did they know?

"bending on"

While I'm not sure it's full, it's pretty hard over, & enough itself. Also, no "x"s in #. TREKphiler ^{hit me ♠} 19:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Set! Shoot!

I deleted this:

"Two Japanese ships lost 15 January 1944 were "Tatsuno Maru" {6,960 tons} and "Toho Maru" {4,092 tons} at 19-45N, 120-40E. "

and this:

"{Two Japanese ships "Kikuzuki Maru" {1,266 tons} and "Kosei Maru" {2,205 tons} were lost 27 January 1944 at 22-11N,119-12E} "

as contradicted by Blair (who credits "Toho Maru" to Chick Clarey's Pintado, p644), & makes no mention of the others. Nor does he credit Thresher. (He attributes all confirmed ships, by name, passim.) Also, JANAC is notoriously unrelieable (as Blair also points out), attributing sinkings to the nearest possible attacker & often not being able to reconcile results. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 05:12, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Conflicting Info

Under 14th war patrol, which started in August 1944, the article claims that Thresher encountered the Japanese cruiser Yubari. In the linked article for Yubari, it's claimed that the ship was sunk in April 1944. Must not have been the Yubari then? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.251.209.64 (talk) 16:24, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Good catch. Blair (p621) credits Eric Barr in Bluegill with sinking Yubari 27/4/44, & makes no mention of Thresher even attacking a cruiser, let alone sinking one. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 18:57, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Math challenged

This site credits Gyōkū Maru as sunk by Thresher. This page credits a 5000 ton oiler. Either we accept JANAC's number, 9,170 tons (Blair, p.955), or COMSUBPAC's, 20,000 (ibid.). I disbelieve the wartime tonnage scores because overestimation was routine due to brief observations & deliberate falsehoods thanks to the unreliability of the Mk14. (Honestly, two fish for a 1500 ton freighter...?) The oiler puts the score over 13,000 tons, wrong by JANAC, & accepting Gyōkū Maru means the third ship is only about 850 tons.... I also have to wonder, if Gyōkū Maru was sunk, why Blair neglects to mention her. Better sourcing for these claims is obviously needed. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 04:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Thirteenth Patrol Story Typo?

In the next to last sentence of this section, the term "port-war" is used. Should this be "post-war"? 173.74.70.16 (talk) 03:23, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Bent cleared

Describing the Eleventh and Twelfth war patrols, the article says “ At 00:11, Thresher fired three bow torpedoes at a 1,266-ton freighter, then bent cleared the area.”Is “bent cleared” a typo or obscure naval slang? I can’t figure out what it might have been intended to be if just garbled, and a dictionary does not clarify what sense of “bent” might apply. If it is a term of naval operations, an explanation or Wikilink is needed. If no one provides input, I may just remove “bent” and just leave it “then left the area.” Edison (talk) 16:22, 8 June 2022 (UTC)