Talk:Tornado outbreak of April 22–25, 2010

Meteorology synopsis references

Given the 7 day turnaround on the text product archive, I'm webcitation-ing the area forecast discussions for the affected NWS offices.

• http://www.webcitation.org/5pD2Iqdy8 = Dodge City
• http://www.webcitation.org/5pD7Oo5db = Amarillo
• http://www.webcitation.org/5pD7aVr3n = Pueblo
• http://www.webcitation.org/5pD7jzNSZ = Goodland
• http://www.webcitation.org/5pD7uVRar = Lubbock

I believe that's all the NWS offices majorly affected by tornadic activity. Ks0stm If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. 18:51, 23 April 2010 (UT

Tallulah tornado

...do we really want to list the big EF4 under Louisiana? Almost all of its track, and its areas of strongest damage, were in Mississippi, and if the areas to the east are confirmed to be continuous with it, it would be spanning almost the entire width of the state. It's already being referred to as the "Yazoo City tornado" in the media, which makes putting it under Louisiana seems even stranger. rdfox 76 (talk) 04:05, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

The long-held rule is that tornadoes that cross state or national boundaries, regardless of where the damage is, are listed only once under the state they first touch down in. Being listed twice confuses people that they were two separate tornadoes. If in the end it is confirmed as two or more tornadoes that returned to the clouds across the Mississippi River, then they would be listed separately (although current indications suggest it was one very long-track tornado that was on the ground the entire time at least from Tallulah to Choctaw County - some suggest as far as Starkville but there is no solid evidence of that right now). CrazyC83 (talk) 14:09, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Got it. Didn't know about that rule; I would have suggested listing it under Mississippi instead of Louisiana, otherwise. (Listing it twice would definitely be confusing!) Thanks! rdfox 76 (talk) 19:52, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Seems to me like that's a dumb rule since 99% of the damage and 100% of the deaths were in Mississippi. If I came to this page looking for info about this tornado, I'd be looking for it under Mississippi, not Louisiana. 75.66.75.195 (talk) 05:41, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Unrelated, added NWS Jackson's NEXRAD shot of the tornado hitting Yazoo City, since they put it up on their site today. rdfox 76 (talk) 15:13, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Second LONGEST tornado ever

If I'm not mistaken the EF4 with a damage path of 149 miles is the second longest tornado ever record - the Tri State was only 219 miles.

If someone could verify that it defiantly needs to be in the article

Censusdata (talk) 16:34, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually, this would not even make the top ten. While some people argue about their validity as single tornadoes, many events in the past produced 150+ mile paths. -RunningOnBrains^(talk) 13:31, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I've actually done extensive research on this and Censusdata is right. Officially, four tornadoes had tracks longer than Yazoo City: Tri-State (219 miles)(which btw isn't technically official because it occured prior to 1950); the Jackson, MS F5 (203 miles); an F4 in Minnesota in 1953 (162 miles); and the Cary-Pugh City F4 (160 miles). First off, the Jackson F5 is widely accepted as two tornadoes (see here). Ask any tornado historian and it becomes clear just how grossly inaccurate the official record is. The 1953 Minnesota tornado is so ridiculous it almost doesn't even merit research. This appears to be at least two tornadoes, both F4s. Thomas Grazulis's research has cited one F4 in Minnesota and another that struck Hannibal, Wisconsin (see here, I believe this list was derived substantially from Grazulis). The official record has this as one absurdly long tracked tornado. The 1971 tornado was the hardest for me to debunk. A friend who works for the NWS and has a LOT more resources than I do says that Grazulis has this tornado as discontinuous between Greenwood and Oxford. The Tri-State's 219 miles has withstood intense scrutiny. The only place it could've lifted was rural southeastern Illinois between West Frankfort and the Wabash River. Reports of older, pre-1950 tornadoes with tracks longer than Yazoo City, however apocryphal, have been surprisingly hard to come by. The longest I found was the Waco, AL F5 of 1920 at 130 miles and this may have been two tornadoes. Based on this research, it seems likely that the Yazoo City tornado was the second longest-track tornado and longest-track F4 that has ever been reliably documented. -- Watch For Storm Surge!§eb 06:34, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

April 30 (today) Arkansas tornadoes

Tornadoes killed people in Arkansas today, April 30. Does it go in this article because it happened in April or in a separate article because it wasn't part of this cluster? 75.66.75.195 (talk) 04:33, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

April 25 tornadoes

Why are minor events such as this being included? Just because the same storm system produced a few minor tornadoes the next day doesn't mean they should be covered...They don't even fit the traditional definition of "outbreak". -RunningOnBrains^(talk) 13:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it was not much of an event. Truthsort (talk) 07:02, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

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