Talk:Tome School

Please clarify what information goes with what location.

This refers to latitude/longitude, along with any historic designation. The school, as noted at the top and further down in the text, is now at North East, and I made a quick fix in the Location header by adding "formerly at". Carlm0404 (talk) 01:03, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

The map would be affected, too. North East is 7 miles further east. Carlm0404 (talk) 01:05, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

intro sentence

@Googoobabycake, you have changed "After several of its buildings were damaged or destroyed by vandals in the 2010s, Bainbridge installed security cameras and hired guards." to "Despite common misconception, the historical site is not open to the public, and is protected with cameras and live security guards." Let me explain why I phrased the sentence that way, and perhaps we can come to a consensus on wording. First, do you have a source for "Despite common misconception"? The footnoted source says nothing about misconceptions, though it does mention people who came prepared to break into a place they knew was off-limits. Second, it is odd to mention security measures in the intro, which should be reserved for the most essential facts; I can't think of a single other school article that does so. If the reader is to be informed about such measures in the intro, the article should explain why they matter so much. Finally, "live security guards" is an odd way to say what most would describe as "security guards". Your thoughts? PRRfan (talk) 16:43, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

can we just leave it the way it was and make everyone happy I do not understand why you had to change anything in the first place. Googoobabycake (talk) 17:21, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for responding; this helps me understand why you are making these edits. But I think you are confusing Wikipedia with a bulletin board, or perhaps a private company's website. Wikipedia doesn't exist to help any company broadcast its news, problems, or desires; it exists to provide encyclopedic articles on topics. Because of that, certain rules have evolved to guide us editors. Among the most important is: everything in an article must be backed up with what Wikipedia calls a reliable source. That's not "someone who works there"; it's "reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." I'm sure you can imagine why this rule exists: in an encyclopedia anyone can edit anonymously, this rule helps to prevent spurious edits. Similarly, another important rule concerns conflicts of interest—that is, "contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial and other relationships." I'm sure you can also imagine why this rule exists: to help everyone produce objective, encyclopedia articles. All this is to say that if you want something to stay in this article, it has to follow the rules. But I can help, and am happy to do so. Are you on board so far? PRRfan (talk) 19:32, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

well, I have cited my sources. there is much misconception around the property being open for business, which is detailed in the Cecil Whig article I cited. That should be good enough for you. Googoobabycake (talk) 20:13, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Ah; I must be overlooking something. Can you please show me where in the Whig article it talks about "popular misconceptions"? PRRfan (talk) 01:06, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

I don't see it, Googoobabycake. I suggest sticking with well-documented facts that also illustrate the seriousness of the damage. How about: "The school's original campus in nearby Port Deposit, now owned by the Bainbridge Development Corporation, is no longer in operation and is closed to the public. After several of the buildings were damaged or destroyed by vandals in the 2010s, Bainbridge installed security cameras and took other measures to keep trespassers off the property"? PRRfan (talk) 21:42, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Revised suggestion:

The Tome School for Boys campus in nearby Port Deposit, now owned by the Bainbridge Development Corporation, is no longer in operation and is closed to the public. After several of the buildings were damaged or destroyed by vandals in recent years, the Bainbridge Development Corporation has installed security cameras and other deterrents to keep trespassers off the property.

Tome School for Boys no longer exists. Tome School in North East MD allows for both sexes. Easier to say TSFB instead of the former campus blah blah blah.

You cannot call it "Bainbridge" because "Bainbridge" does not exist anymore as a naval base nor as a company (unless you are referring to the unincorporated municipality/town of Bainbridge Cecil County Maryland.)

2010s sounds like these fires happened a while ago. However the most recent one if i'm recalling correctly was 2020. Recent years sounds more appropriate. Googoobabycake (talk) 22:40, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

We're getting close! But the reader won't know how the "Tome School for Boys" relates to "The Tome School"; we need to say something like: "The school was founded as the Tome School for Boys in nearby Port Deposit. That campus, now owned by the Bainbridge Development Corporation, is no longer in operation and is closed to the public."

As for the next sentence: because this is an encyclopedia article, not a bulletin board for the BDC, it's more appropriate to take a longer view: "Since the 2010s, several of the buildings have been damaged or destroyed by vandals, and the company has installed security cameras and taken other measures to keep trespassers off the property." We can be as specific as we like about the fires and security measures in the body of the article. Sound good? PRRfan (talk) 01:59, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

sure Googoobabycake (talk) 03:19, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Disclaimer: I am not a representative of the Bainbridge Development Corporation, a quasi-government corporation of the State of Maryland Googoobabycake (talk) 03:20, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Naval nuclear powerschool (academics) at the Toom site.

In 1968, the US Navy conducted the first six months of Naval Nuclear Power in former WW2 barracks (7 yr life expectancy). Trailer homes supplimented the limited available for married housing for senior enlisted and staff. The Navy had a pontoon dock at Port Deposit and moorings for sailboat on the Susquenanna. The major recreational activity on base was raspberry picking. I taught sailing to naval enliste and Army Officers in my spare time. A Naval Officer taught Naval Officers. 2607:FB91:2DB5:43E8:48EC:AF4B:CB8C:6200 (talk) 19:48, 27 June 2023 (UTC)