Talk:To SquarePants or Not to SquarePants

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Buidhe in topic Notability
Former good articleTo SquarePants or Not to SquarePants was one of the Media and drama good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
July 22, 2013Good article nomineeListed
February 12, 2021Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:To SquarePants or Not to SquarePants/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Retrolord (talk · contribs) 11:08, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

I will review. KING RETROLORD 11:08, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi King Retrolord! I'm so glad and grateful to you for taking time to review this article which I nominated. I hope everything for this article to pass your and the GA standards. Thanks! :) Mediran (tc) 11:13, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Your welcome, KING RETROLORD 11:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Review edit

Feel free to reply directly under each of the points below, and you can mark things as   Done or   Not done if you want too.

  1. "in Nickelodeon in the" On Nickelodeon? KING RETROLORD 11:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
      Done changed to "on Nickelodeon".
  2. " square pants have shrunk " I think just change to "pants", KING RETROLORD 11:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
      Done changed to as simple as "pants" as suggested.
  3. Plot summary section should have a ref at the end of the second para, citing the epiosode KING RETROLORD 11:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
      Done
  4. bluelink Sandy? KING RETROLORD 11:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
      Done
  5. "The premiere starts with "To SquarePants or Not to SquarePants" at 8 pm." That sentence is out of place, could you rewrite?
      Done
  6. can you add references for the infobox? KING RETROLORD 11:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
      Done
  7. Can you link the next and previous eps in the infobox? KING RETROLORD 11:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
      Done

Thanks, KING RETROLORD 11:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks too! I hope everything is good enough for this article to pass this GAN. :) Mediran (tc) 12:37, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
All good, pass! KING RETROLORD 12:45, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thank you very much for the pass! Cheers! :) Mediran (tc) 12:57, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Notability edit

I don't think To SquarePants or Not to SquarePants is a notable article for Wikipedia. This episode isn't double-length and isn't a special. It isn't popular or critically acclaimed like Band Geeks, and it has a score of 7.3 on TV.com. You could argue that it's "notable" because it has a DVD release based on it, but so did Home Sweet Pineapple and Whale of a Birthday, two other episodes that don't have pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrooge200 (talkcontribs) 19:11, 4 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

To SquarePants or Not to SquarePants edit

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Result: Delisted (t · c) buidhe 18:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

I don't think this meets the GA criteria. The 2013 review was very brief and shallow, and I think there are significant issues here. Zap2it.com, DVD Talk, TVShowsOnDVD.com, blogcritic, KidzWorld, and the Facebook ref all look a bit dubious as sources. A few claims in the article (plot summary actually doesn't need inline citations, as it's presumed to be sourced to the episode itself), such as the statement that it was the 116th article, need cited. A lot of the refs are dead. The plot summary is disproportionatly wrong. There is are outstanding tags. I'm just not seeing how this is a GA under modern standards. Hog Farm Bacon 20:04, 21 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

  • Comment: if the three reviewers in Reception are reliable then I think everything is fixable, and I don't know enough to say whether they are. Deadrefs are solvable, 116 shouldn't have a {{citation needed}} tag because it's routine calculation, it's not clear at a glance that either of the "multiple issues" tags are actionable. I believe Zap2it is reliable and many of the dubious sources are just there to support simple factual claims about DVD releases where primary sources can be acceptably cited instead. I'm not sure what makes the plot summary "disproportionately wrong"—could you expand? But overall, I'd say the test of this is whether it's notable; to that end, I'd recommend nominating it for deletion instead. It's either non-notable or can be made as comprehensive as is possible without inordinately much further work. I notice that most of the SpongeBob episode articles will likely suffer with the same problems so perhaps a wider discussion or bulk AfD would be appropriate at some point. — Bilorv (talk) 01:09, 27 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Hog Farm-- any update? Eddie891 Talk Work 18:59, 3 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
    • @Eddie891 and Hog Farm: a relevant development is talk at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television#Spongebob episode articles, which could use more attention. — Bilorv (talk) 19:12, 3 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
      • @Eddie891 and Bilorv: - "disproportionally wrong" was a typo for "disproportionally long". I'm not convinced that a plot summary that appears to me to be longer than the rest of the article body combined is really appropriate for a GA (if it does turn out to be a problem, its fixable). I'm also not familiar enough with the sources to make a definitive call on reliability, although based on [1] I'd say the earliest blogcritics stuff is probably non-RS, but without a working link to the specific article in question, it's hard to judge the merits of that single article. Hog Farm Bacon 20:06, 3 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
        • @Hog Farm: your thoughts would be appreciated at the WPTV discussion I linked above, because presumably these issues raised will apply to all GA Spongebob episode articles, at the least. — Bilorv (talk) 20:11, 3 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Support delisting, because this isn't a GA-quality article, but really I support deletion and a wider treatment of the issue. — Bilorv (talk) 20:11, 3 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Support delisting per nom. Some Dude From North Carolinawanna talk? 20:22, 15 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Support delisting per nom. Too bad, too early for a GA, with unreliable sources and many issues. Chompy Ace 21:56, 15 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Support delisting per the terrible sourcing alone, and perhaps to establish a precedent for other articles like it. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 07:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC)Reply