Talk:Tikbalang

Tikbalang or Tikbalan?

Most references to the creature refer to it as a Tikbalang, not Tikbalan. Cite the proper references if you wish to edit the article and sign talk page edits with your account name (using four tildes). For the moment, I am reverting it to the previous version. Kguirnela 02:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

New Headings

I'm rather new to this, but it was recommended that I be 'bold' and I acted accordingly.

It seems to me that tales about Legendary Creatures in the Philippines follow a certain pattern regarding the facts they contain:

• a basic description of the creature, including appearance, habitat, and whether the creature is 'good' or 'bad'.
• a set of behaviors associated with the creature
• a prescription for dealing with the creature

I edited the article into sections accordingly.

I intend to look for citations soon - I left my references in the other house. I'm sure the UP Folk Literature Series can serve as a definitive source of at least some of these statements. Alternativity 16:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Religious Perspective

I'm looking for a refernce that makes clear the Catholic church's stand.

Somewhere in my library I have a protestant perspective already.

A "Dating Daan" video poking fun at the Tikbalang Legends can be found at http://grouper.com/video/MediaDetails.aspx?id=1550162&ml=o%3D7%26fr%3D1564679%26fx%3D

• After a thorough (though slapstick) description of the Tikbalang legends, it basically says Tikbalangs are not true according to the bible, refers to 2 Timothy 4:4 to make it's point. Alternativity 17:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

In Popular Culture

Explaining how he came up with the idea for Mythology Class, Arnold Arre said: "I was interested in the idea of how something like a Tikbalang would react if he sees flyovers." ref: http://www.arnold-arre.com/interviews/genXmeetstik.html

Some said that you can make a tikbalang follow all your commands if you got its golden hair located at its hair or back. This golden hair has to be warped around your middle finger before you make a command to a tikbalang.--WikiPoTechizen 04:04, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

References Survey

I am collecting search results for tikbalang here, for comparison, and for addition to the main page later, since I haven't mastered how to enter references yet. I think at this point, though, I've found online references for everything that needs a reference on the main page. 124.217.73.214 09:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

These are not direct quotes, simply a list of facts listed per site, as I am trying to figure out what 'facts' can be referred to using what pages

http://www.answers.com/topic/tikbalang

Mirror of the Old Wikipedia Entry, just here for comparison.

Date:

11 January 2006

Author:

Mirror of the Old Wikipedia Entry

Description:

• one of the Philippine's mythological creatures.
• said to be half-human, half-animal.
• While many would loosely identify the Tikbalang with a minotaur, a centaur, and a satyr, the Tikbalang has features which make it unique from all three.
  • Like the centaur, it is half horse and half man, but it is different because it is also bipedal like the minotaur and the satyr.
• Its equine features are the head, a thick mane that runs along its back and also covers the crotch area, hooves, and a long tail.
• The muscular build of its torso and legs is mostly human intersparsed by black horse hair.
• The Tikbalang is extremely tall, almost 8 ft in height.

Habitat:

a Tikbalang usually appears up in the mountains

The difference between a Tikbalang and a Kapre is that Kapre may be found both in the mountains and in town.

Destructive Behavior: leading travelers astray

Tikbalangs are said to scare travelers and lead them astray. Tikbalangs play tricks on travelers such that they keep on returning to an arbitrary path no matter how far he goes or where he turns.

Motivation: Tikbalang are said to be guardians of the forest, protecting its kingdom from any who does not pay respect.

Solutions:

Supposedly this is counteracted by wearing one's shirt inside out. Another countermeasure is to ask permission out loud to pass by or not produce too much noise while in the woods in order not to offend or disturb the Tikbalang.

Destructive Behavior:anthropomorphism and kidnapping

Source: According to traditional folklore,

• the Tikbalang can also transform itself into human form.

specifically: the form of someone a victim may be acquainted with, such as a close relative,

• imitate their exact voice and mannerisms.

• At this point, the Tikbalang is said to ask the victim to follow it into the woods. The traveler, believing the Tikbalang to be someone he knows, will do so willingly and end up getting even more lost, sometimes never to be seen again.

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/t/tikbalang.html

Date: 11 January 2006

Author: Micha F. Lindemans

Description: A half-man half-horse creature from Philippine folklore. It is said that the knees of the tikbalang rise above its head, hiding its face.

Habitat: secluded areas in swamps.

Destructive Behavior:misleading travelers The tikbalang is responsible for misleading travelers so that they will get lost.

Solutions: a traveler may find his way back by wearing his shirt inside-out.

Other Superstitions: It is also believed that if it rains with the sun fully out, a tikbalang is getting married.

http://www.angelfire.com/ny/tikbalang/main.html

"Syllabication:"

tik-ba-lang \'tik-ba-lâng\ n[Fil.]

Date:

11 january

Description:

a ghostly figure

Habitat:

haunts the rural neighbourhood at night

Destructive Behavior:feasting on humans

"haunts the rural neighbourhood at night looking for humans to feast on"

Solutions:

• Like the sphinx, will ask three riddles before it eats its prey. The lucky person who is able to solve the puzzle is rewarded a bag of gold.
• It is said that most of its victims are the drunks and heathens who do not pray the evening Angelus.

http://www.geocities.com/gcalla1/tikbalang.htm

Date: 11 January 2006

Description:

mythical being with the upper body of a horse and the lower limbs (from the waist down) of a man.

Habitat:

secluded areas in swamps.

Destructive Behavior:ambushing travellers

They often ambush unwary travelers and attack using their hooves to bludgeon their victims.

Other Superstitions:

They were said to emit the nauseating stench of burning hair hence signaling their victims of their impending doom.

http://www.geocities.com/horrorflip/demonsdragonsanddwarves.html

"HorrorFlip: Creatures of Philippine Lower Mythology"

Date:

12 January 2006

Description:

• a very popular demon in Philippine lower mythology.
• generally described as horse-like.
  • They have bodies like that of men but their heads are similar to a horse,
• they have bad teeth.
• They have long limbs, and
• when they laugh, all you can see is their mouth.

Habitat:

They like to live in balete (Ficus indica) trees, mangroves, and nipa groves.

Destructive Behavior:misleading travelers

The tikbalang likes to make people lose their way.

Other Superstitions:

• They posses a magic charm called a "mutya (stone of the banana flower)."
  • It is said that a person could get the tikbalang's "mutya" by riding on its back, which of course, the tikbalang woould try to dislodge the unwelcome rider. The rider should remain in his position until the tikbalang tires and it is then that he will give the rider anything he desires, including the "mutya."
• The tikbalang can also change shape. Often, like that of an old man, a horse or a "monster."
• They also like to smoke
• are known to smoke huge cigars as big as banana tree trunks with smoke as thick as a chimney.

Links

www.keiththompsonart.com/pages/tikbalang.html contains an artist's sketch of a tikbalang.

Added link to the World of Warcraft "anti-tikbalang" item since it wasn't cited. Hope I got the format right... Echo5ive 14:22, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Integration of references

I have integrated the the references given both in the article itself as well as those in the talk page into in-line citations within the article. I could not determine, however, where exactly to cite the Blair and Bergaño references. Also did some cleanup and wikifying. I removed the section on "Other Filipino mythological creatures", replacing it with a "See also" section; linked to another article on Philippine Mythology. I do not recommend using as references, personal websites such as those found on geocities and the like; it is difficult to determine the veracity of the expertise of authors of these sites. - Kguirnela 20:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Another name and additional habits

Tikbalang was usually in reference if the speaker was Tagalog or so but i remember old folks calling this this creature as "tayho." Also that like the kapre, tikbalang is also known to smoke huge cigars or abano. This is based on Panay Island old wives' tales so verification with written folklore is needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.29.26 (talk) 17:49, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

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