Talk:Thomas Wharton, 1st Marquess of Wharton

2d marriage

I didn't have time to add the references, but I looked these up in A History of the British Parliament online (after reading the article on Sir William Morice), and Cracroft's Peerage, an online resource published by a genealogist cum heraldry expert.

It is amazing that this so-called encylopedic article contains nothing about his second marriage or children including the rake and good-for-nothing Philip (whose own Wikipedia entry mentions that his father was the Marquess of Wharton).

I really wish that you had put in a template for Unreferenced (as in asking for citations), or asked for style corrections (clarifications on whatever is unclear), rather than deleting everything I added.[1] That is no incentive to correct/add to entries with missing information. I'm going to work on this on my sandbox and keep it there. Wikibiohistory2 (talk) 13:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Passage in Macaulay's History of England

The following description of Thomas Wharton appears in Macaulay's History of England - see https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:History_of_England_(Macaulay)_Vol_4.djvu/515. Due to its modern relevance this may be worth including.

His mendacity and his effrontery passed into proverbs. Of all the liars of his time he was the most deliberate, the most inventive and the most circumstantial. What shame meant he did not seem to understand. No reproaches, even when pointed and barbed with the sharpest wit, appeared to give him pain. Great satirists, animated by a deadly personal aversion, exhausted all their strength in attacks upon him. They assailed him with keen invective; they assailed him with still keener irony; but they found that neither invective nor irony could move him to any thing but an unforced smile and a goodhumoured curse; and they at length threw down the lash, acknowledging that it was impossible to make him feel. That, with such vices, he should have played a great part in life, should have carried numerous elections against the most formidable opposition by his personal popularity, should have had a large following in Parliament, should have risen to the highest offices of the State, seems extraordinary. But he lived in times when faction was almost a madness; and he possessed in an eminent degree the qualities of the leader of a faction.

— Thomas Babington Macaulay

 Good addition. "Modern relevance" exactly my thought when I read it. Соловей поет (talk) 19:45, 10 April 2023 (UTC)