Talk:Theologian of the Pontifical Household

Latest comment: 4 years ago by KSFT in topic Requested move 3 July 2019

This article is a good example that it is not sufficient to rely on the 1913 Catholic Enyclopedia as a source for historical information. The claim that Saint Dominic was the first Master of the Holy Palace is purely legendary and was invented by the Dominicans in order to defend the office against the other mendicant orders. In reality, the Dominicans have held the office exclusively only from 1347 onwards. Cf. Brigide Schwarz, Kurienuniversität und stadtrömische Universität von ca. 1300 bis 1471, Leiden 2013, p. 261. Sylvain Leblanc (talk) 17:22, 26 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 3 July 2019 edit

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: consensus not to move. (non-admin closure) KSFT (t|c) 23:06, 20 July 2019 (UTC)Reply



Theologian of the Pontifical HouseholdTheologian of the Papal household – Per WP:CONSISTENCY with Papal household. PPEMES (talk) 16:32, 3 July 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. — Newslinger talk 23:35, 10 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

  • Oppose. Whether the Papal Household is a proper name or not, this is a formally named post and therefore clearly is. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:22, 4 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
Shouldn't you first direct that question about Papal household? PPEMES (talk) 20:38, 7 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
As I said, Papal household may or may not be a proper name. But this post most certainly is and in English we capitalise all parts of a proper name apart from prepositions etc. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:17, 9 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose. If you wanna go for consistency, then how about renaming "Papal household" to "Pontifical household" per a literal translation of its official Latin name? Elizium23 (talk) 23:39, 10 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Comment - No opinion on the pontifical-to-papal move but I agree with Necro that the consistency of capitalization based on the papal household article title is, despite obvious similarities, in fact an apples-to-oranges comparison. While papal household is debatable as a proper noun, this article's subject quite clearly is.

(I will now add this to the very short list of times I supported a capitalizing action.) Primergrey (talk) 02:49, 11 July 2019 (UTC)Reply


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