Talk:The Adventures of Tintin (film)/Archives/2021/December

Requested move

IMDb indicates that there are no other films solely titled Tintin. I am requesting a move to Tintin (film). —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:07, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

This article has been renamed from Tintin (2009 film) to Tintin (film) as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 07:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Citations for use

• International Herald Tribune, May 2007 "According to a Dreamworks spokesman, Jackson is expected to direct the first film, Spielberg the second." + other minor tidbits - Liquidfinale ^{(Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ)} 00:13, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
• Sunday Times, May 2007 - some history of the project and production tidbits. Liquidfinale ^{(Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ)} 00:17, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Pointless

"Spielberg had decreed in 2002 he was searching for a 16 or 17-year old for the part, rather than a 13-year old."

Just wondering what the point of that is. No where in the books does it say Tintin is 13...or 16 or 17 for that matter, so why mention this. I'm thinking of removing this.

WHLfan (talk) 06:05, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Be bold. ;) Alientraveller (talk) 10:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

In the very early days when Titin was "made", it was taking one page of a neewspaper and Tintin has been since then a very young reporter, younger than 20, possibly as young as 17, even if it is today not mentioned anywhere explicitly, this is really his age, if I may say. People have interviewed Herge countless times and if one search one can find an age (I think 17) in some documented original prints. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.220.147.92 (talk) 15:23, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Plot

Are we absolutely sure that the story will be an amalgamation of The Secret of the Unicorn and The Crab with the Golden Claws? It seems very odd to have the former without Red Rackham's Treasure, especially as Claws doesn't link up with either of them. The reference to this info can't be accessed online, so I'd like to vote for deleting this until a more easily verifiable source can be found. Marthiemoo (talk) 19:40, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

There's a contradictions: is THE SHOOTING STAR WILL BE IN THE MOVIE? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.230.150.82 (talk) 23:33, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, "The Shooting Star"'s storyline does differ from The Secret of the Unicorn (by default, I'd say), but is that reason enough to assume the film makers won't use it at all? The article's most recent edit stipulates (in a rather sloppy manner, by the way) it won't be used, but I'd like to see that referenced... Jellevc (talk) 13:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Keep in mind that the modern "story writers" can use any part of any Tintin books as a source for information that might be needed in addition to the above mentioned books in that series. In fact for most people like me who grew up with Tintin when watching the movie it will part of the life of Tintin rather than a "stand alone" movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.220.147.92 (talk) 15:26, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Just went to the premiere here in France. It's mostly The Crab with the Golden Claws and The Secret of the Unicorn. Nothing from the Red Rackham's Treasure is used and it will be the story for the second movie. --Simon Huet-- 21:09, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Refimprove tag

I have removed this, as far as I can see the article is very well sourced. The lead lacks sources but sources are not required here. Anything still lacking sources can be tagged with citation needed tags. Rehevkor ✉ 01:38, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 86.161.80.10, 23 January 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} how pout Nickelodeon will co-produce the film instead of DreamWorks

86.161.80.10 (talk) 16:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

There's no mentions of DreamWorks being involved in this. Only Paramount and Sony seem to be involved. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.176.213 (talk)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 00:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Maybe remove DreamWorks from the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.156.105.186 (talk) 22:35, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Annapbell, 18 May 2011

Please add -- Writing duo Doug Miro and Carlo Bernard were hired in 2002 and penned the original along with a script for a sequel. At the time Stephen Daldry was on board as director. Stephen Moffat later rewrote the earlier scripts by Miro and Bernard.

Annapbell (talk) 01:04, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

 Not done Provide a reliable source and a more specific edit, like where you want it added. CTJF83 16:49, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

to Precede ^ 25. Carly Mayberry (October 2, 2007). "Scribe Moffat on 'Tintin' case". The Hollywood Reporter. Archived from the original on October 18, 2007. Please add -- Writing duo Doug Miro and Carlo Bernard were hired in 2002 and penned the original along with a script for a sequel. At the time Stephen Daldry was on board as director. Stephen Moffat later rewrote the earlier scripts by Miro and Bernard. Source- http://collider.com/doug-miro-carlo-bernard-interview-national-treasure-3-tintin/27870/ Annapbell (talk) 00:33, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

 Not done not a reliable source. See identifying reliable sources. —James ^{(Talk • Contribs)} • 10:53am • 00:53, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Movie Title

Okay, so we all know "The Adventures of Tintin: Secret of the Unicorn" was the movie's official title, however all publicity material (trailers, even the poster used in this article's infobox) only use the title "The Adventures of Tintin". Perhaps the name's been officially changed to not include "Secret of the Unicrorn"? Does anyone know more?207.237.208.153 (talk) 15:42, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

I've noticed that, too. I'd been going to add a section to this discussion page about this, but you beat me to it. Due to the amount of material that simply calls the film "The Adventures of Tintin," I think the article should be moved to "The Adventures of Tintin (film)" (unless someone finds enough evidence that the name of the movie has NOT changed). Alphius (talk) 03:13, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Even the movie's official website simply calls the film "The Adventures of Tintin." Alphius (talk) 03:15, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Here in the The Netherlands the official title ís "The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn". I think this is also true for some other countries. I guess in the US the movie is named The Adventures of Tintin. I think this should be mentioned in the introduction, right? Podex (talk) 10:32, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

It is officially called THE ADVENTURES OF TINTIN - THE SECRET OF THE UNICORN according to the BBFC certificate. It is purely for marketing purposes it is referred to as "The Adventures of Titin" as a shorthand. This shouldn't really be debated: many movies have shorthand titles used during marketing (like Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1 = HP7), it doesn't matter. The Wikipedia entry should always use the full official title, and per the BBFC, it is THE ADVENTURES OF TINTIN - THE SECRET OF THE UNICORN. Dizagaox (talk) 1:28, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Spielberg-written article on the film

A Spielberg-written article on the film, published 5 Oct 2011, appears here. Might be of use for the page.81.156.126.158 (talk) 10:13, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 18 October 2011

The current score on Rotten Tomatoes is 83% (as per 18-10), and not 75% as stated in the page

Gauche unie (talk) 12:47, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Updated --Jnorton7558 (talk) 13:19, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

UK Release Dates

The article says the film will be released in the UK on the 26th when its out already. FM [ talk to me | show contributions ]  15:32, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Budget?

I actually find that an interesting piece of info to have. Anyone care to add? Jørgen88 (talk) 16:55, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 83.70.252.145 , 30 October 2011

In the "Plot" section, spelling errors need to be corrected: model for "modle"; Karaboudjan for 'Krarabujan'.

83.70.252.145 (talk) 19:49, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for the suggestions. —Tom Morris (talk) 21:15, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Haddoque

What's the source for the weird spelling of Sir Francis haddock's name? In the books, it's the same as the fish. If its really "que" in the film, perhaps that itself is worth noting. Cormullion (talk) 20:19, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

The source is Hergé's original book: 'Haddoque' is meant to be the old French spelling of the name Haddock, as used by his ancestor.--Stelmaris (talk) 23:15, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

page 6 of the Secret of the Unicorn gives "haddock". That's the original for the purposes of this article, surely.? Page 14 gives an " olde englishe" spelling, signed on a manucript by Sir Francis himself, but it's "haddocke". Next you'll be calling snowy struppi :) Cormullion (talk) 23:39, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Sorry - I was actually referring to the original French edition where Haddock's ancestor is the Chevalier de Hadoque. (Snowy, of course, has always been Milou....) Since this an article in English, perhaps it should adopt the old English spelling of Haddocke when referring to Sir Francis?--Stelmaris (talk) 05:33, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

I think all the Tintin pages on the English wiki use the translated names, rather than the originals. Interesting though that in the French version Haddock was a French sailor - working for King Charles II, I suppose it's possible... (Yes, Struppi was the German version of Milou, my mistake...:) I"ve changed the main page to Haddocke, which may be the best. Cormullion (talk) 07:50, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

The best solution, I agree. And, by the way, the chevalier de Hadoque didn't work for Charles II in the French edition, but for Louis XIV of France - who both reigned at the same time in the 17th century. Interesting that even the kings were 'translated', so to speak! No wonder no-one can agree on Haddock's nationality...--Stelmaris (talk) 14:18, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Plot rewrite needed

Can someone who has seen this film - I haven't - please rewrite the plot section urgently? The current version has atrocious grammar and doesn't even make much sense. Mezigue (talk) 09:45, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

had a go. Not sure whether one's supposed to avoid including spoilers, or describe the whole thing, though. Cormullion (talk) 17:54, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Nice one. There is no need to avoid spoilers in a plot section as it contains them by definition so you can go ahead with the end. Mezigue (talk) 22:15, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

I think you've done a very good job! No point in painstakingingly describing every scene or plot line, and the actual ending isn't spoilt. No doubt though there will be plenty of fans who will want to add every detail, however trivial... --Stelmaris (talk) 18:33, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

thanks! I'd like to see the film again and take notes... :) Cormullion (talk) 19:48, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

• The plot may need to be made NPOV. A couple adjectives don't seem to fall under the guidelines... (sinister, mysterious...) Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:31, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

That would be POV when describing real life stuff, but a film presents a point of view which it is fair to reflect in the summary. Mezigue (talk) 13:46, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

• I'd probably leave commentary like that for a referenced characters section, as how the film intends to present a character and how a character is actually received can be quite different. Jar-Jar Binks being a glaring example. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:34, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request

External reference #18 ("Tintin and the Movie Moguls?") points to an obsolete link (http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/article1830463.ece). Should be updated to http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/culture/film_and_tv/film/article65122.ece Penoovindos (talk) 13:03, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request

I would like to see some reference to the level of violence in this film for the information of people wishing to take young children to see it. chrismccoll (chrismccoll) 07:17, 02 November 2011 (CET)

I think the IMDB does this for films, not Wikipedia, although IMDB hasn't done it yet, I think. When I saw the film, there were a few 4-year olds who shouldn't have been there: they got bored/confused, and started shouting  :) Cormullion (talk) 11:01, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Plot

I've removed the plot. Why print it so soon when only Belgium has been able to watch it? RAP (talk) 18:26 9 November 2011 (UTC)

i think most of Europe has seen it, it's no longer in the cinemas much. I suppose the US hasn't, seen it though. Perhaps that's unusual - normally, we can read the spoilers if we want to before the film's out. I think the plot should go back, since it's interesting for people who know the books. Cormullion (talk) 20:12, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

RAP, don't be silly; your personal preference does not trump content guidelines. WP:SPOILER states: "Spoilers are no different from any other content and should not be deleted solely because they are spoilers." Improve the plot summary if you're familiar with the film, but don't remove it simply because it might spoil readers. María (yllosubmarine) 20:36, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 23 November 2011

Please change the names of the characters played by Mackenzie Cook and Daniel Mays from "Ernie and Allan" to "Tom and Allan" as these are the names of the characters in the source material book and also in the film. And also the actress/opera singer Kim Stengel, plays a character called Bianca Castafiore, a recurring character in the series of books, who is a much larger character than some of the character/actors on the page. I have found this information from IMDB and my information is supported by the book "The Art of The Adventures of Tintin". Thank you.

Chicken360700 (talk) 18:45, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Not done. IMDB isn't generally regarded as a good source. I looked at the official us movie site and the US comic site but neither of them listed these characters. The movie site listed the actors, but didn't give their character names for this movie. Just let it go for another week and we'll have the official cast list from the movie itself that we can use as a reference. If you'd like any further help, contact me on my user talk page. You might instead want to put a {{help me}} template up on your own user talk, or put the {{edit semi-protected}} template back up on this page and either way someone will be along to help you. :) Banaticus (talk) 05:29, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Not sure how you managed to miss Mackenzie Crook as Tom on the official us movie site; it states, One of British comedy's best known faces, MACKENZIE CROOK (Tom), ..... The US comic site you refer to isn't a particularly useful reference for film portrayals however, there is a Tom (and an Allan Thompson) listed as minor criminal characters, albeit from different stories - there's no Ernie though. "The Art of The Adventures of Tintin" also has Crook as Tom (page 74) - and Stengel as Castafiore (page 80).FanN | talk 03:06, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Cast

please add Kim Stengel as cast for Bianca Castafiore. the role is an important part of the plot and also a well known recurring character in the tintin books.--46.4.240.197 (talk) 19:40, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 20:53, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

But Renee Fleming is the voice of Bianca Castafiore, not Stengel.

<r> http://www.reneefleming.com/buzz/ <r>

Edit request on 26 December 2011

In the plot-summary section, several critical omissions are made: please add reference to Tintin's coming home to find his apartment ransacked, to the appearance and shooting death of Barnaby, and to his pointing out letters on the newspaper he's carrying. Mention should be made of the detective's visit, after ward, in which Tintin explains this, toMr. Silk's taking of Tintin's wallet just after, and to Tintin's being questioned about the matter aboard the Karaboudjan. Also remember, at the end, to mention that Barnaby is revealed posthumously as an Interpol agent. Nicholas Ivan Hentschel (talk) 23:27, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry, but the plot summary is long enough and the suggested additions are not that critical. Alandeus (talk) 10:51, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Hergé's cameo appearance and in-jokes throughout movie

The artist who does Tintin's portrait is Hergé! Rather unique tip to the creator of the stories. Image of Hergé can be found here. It is also obvious the movie is an endless stream of reference to other stories in the Tintin world, In-joke's. It needs a note in synopsis or plot (may add something later) --Flightsoffancy (talk) 15:50, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

a good image of Herge is here,, and this site lists a history of Herge appearances! Many done himself in his books. Seems to be sufficient support. Flightsoffancy (talk) 20:02, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 30 December 2011

At the beginning of the film, there is a small tribute to Herge. His likeness is reflected as the artist who is in the park drawing a portrait of Tintin. What he hands to 3D animated Tintin is the drawing of what he traditionally looks like in the books. A nice touch worth noting in the article.

Marcusewertjohns (talk) 04:36, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 22:30, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Note the entry above this one already pointed out this fact. Flightsoffancy (talk) 20:00, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Source

I found a source discussing Tintin fans' reactions:

• "Tintinologists and fans on the fence about 'The Adventures of Tintin'." CNN. December 21, 2011.

WhisperToMe (talk) 16:09, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Renee Flemming is the voice of Bianca Castafiore

Opera Star Renee Flemming is the voice of Bianca Castafiore, not to be confused with Kim Stengel. Why this is noted late in the credits is totally inexcusable. You can check out Ms. Flemming's webpage to read more. Greenbuddy (talk) 18:37, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 March 2012

Please change the part "performance capture 3D film" into "3D motion capture adventure film" because it is the genre of the film.

96.236.73.26 (talk) 19:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

 Not done needs a source. Also, see WP:GWAR gwickwire | Leave a message 19:47, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Is It Spielberg??

Has anyone mentioned that the character Sakharine looks an awful lot like Spielberg?? --Paul E Musselman 96.236.73.26 (talk) 19:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulmmn (talk • contribs) 22:04, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

The character is based on the character with the same name in The Secret of the Unicorn. --Oddeivind (talk) 19:04, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Is It Spielberg?

Has anyone else noticed that the character Sakharine looks an awful lot like Spielberg?? --Paul E Musselman 96.236.73.26 (talk) 19:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulmmn (talk • contribs) 22:10, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

The Uncanny valley

I find it interesting that this article seems to make no mention of the Uncanny valley. Most of the people I've talked to thought the animation was "creepy". Since neither myself o r my friends can count as verified sources, perhaps someone with more experience can so some searching and find articles that discuss this movie and that phenomenon?

The Uncanny valley

I find it interesting that this article seems to make no mention of the Uncanny valley. Most of the people I've talked to thought the animation was "creepy". Since neither myself o r my friends can count as verified sources, perhaps someone with more experience can so some searching and find articles that discuss this movie and that phenomenon? 96.236.73.26 (talk) 19:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.228.6.104 (talk) 06:59, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit Request: Sequel info…

There is a citation (footnote 118) which is used to justify the information that Crystal Balls/ Prisoners would be the sequel, which is based on an assertion in an MTv Article from November last year that Anthony Horowitz had written a script based on these books. That article just isn’t right - no script by Anthony Horowitz was written at that time, he has been publicly saying that he wrote his first draft this year, after completing work on the latest series of Foyle’s War; also, in spite of speculation that those would be the stories used, the producers have yet to confirm any story line. I therefore suggest that the MTV piece is purely speculative, shouldn’t therefore be relied on for corroboration, and ask that those elements be removed. 96.236.73.26 (talk) 19:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jock123 (talk • contribs) 22:36, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protection no longer appropriate

The semi-protection of this article appears to have been in place as "indefinite" since the early pre-production days of the movie (2010?). This appears to be in violation of Wikipedia's "Determining the duration for semi-protection" guidelines, and unnecessarily impedes the efforts of casual users in the global community to make meaningful contributions to Wikipedia. Certainly a movie released in the past should be more stable than a yet-to-be-released film (subject to rumor and speculation); as such, current semi-protection would appear to be unnecessary. I propose that semi-protection be removed from this article. --96.236.73.26 (talk) 19:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.236.73.26 (talk) 18:47, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

 Not done. Please request at WP:RPP under Un-protection.

Article name

I believe this article should be renamed The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn, as it is known by this name in most of the world, including New Zealand where it was produced. When other film are released, which will have subtitles, it will also make it clearer on a film series article to differentiate between the films. Frogkermit (talk) 22:39, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Anyone have any view on this? Frogkermit (talk) 23:53, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Not supported – The movie is primarily American and the displayed poster also says just "The Adventures of Tintin". And the addition "The Secret of the Unicorn" does get mentioned in the first line of the lede, so not problem there. Don't understand the problem though concerning subtitles. Alandeus (talk) 14:02, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Requested move notification

Hi, people may be interested to comment at the requested move discussion at Talk:Tintin. Thanks, Matty.007 15:55, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

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