Talk:Tempted (TV series)

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Circle999

This is regarding the reception section of the page and the use of an editorial statement as fact. The Kpop Herald contains articles that are factually based and opinion based. The section of the page that I believe should be deleted is an editorial statement. The other article sourced is again a personal opinion based editorial, not an authoritative statement. The reception ratings data used is factually based, which is why the TNmS ratings data should not have been deleted. The person who has been editing this page created their account today for the sole purpose of editing the Tempted page. They deleted the TNmS ratings data, and then added editorialized wording. I would ask for these changes to be reverted back to a neutral basis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Circle999 (talkcontribs) 00:22, 31 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Per [[1]], "Professional film critics are regarded as reliable sources, though reputable commentators and experts—connected to the film or to topics covered by the film—may also be cited". So your argument that it is an "editorial statement" is not valid. I listed both Kpop Herald and Sports Chosun / Osen sources to support my statement, and both are reliable sources according to [[2]]. On the other hand, you only provided only Viki (website) and Wikipedia links as sources to support your statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.115.98.121 (talk) 00:34, 31 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

If we are using opinion based pieces then there are also positive reviews which should also be included, which praised the acting of the leads.

Viki is a primary source. The reference to the ratings is not Wikipedia, but Nielsen and TNmS which are listed on this page. Both ratings data are commonly used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Circle999 (talkcontribs) 00:50, 31 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

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We should be able to reach a consensus for the reception section.

ETA: I unfortunately did not receive any further response after the 31st December. Please find below an updated version where I have included the full ratings data and citations. I have also added additional articles and information, including citations from reliable sources. With the clarification of what sources can be used (eg: OSEN/Sports Chosun) and the understanding of the overall critical reception of the drama, I am sure we can agree. Both ratings data that is available should be stated, and both the positive and negative reception should be listed. This is the intention I have had when wording the following section.

"The series had an overall Nationwide average audience share of 3.2% according to TNmS[26], and 2.2% according to Nielsen Korea[27]. The drama received both praise and criticism during its run in South Korea. The issue of idol singers in lead roles created hostility amongst some viewers, although Park Soo-young was subsequently praised for her improvement and potential in acting after erasing her idol color.[28][29] Woo Do-hwan was also praised for his ability to express a wide range and depth of emotions in the drama.[30] The 18th episode recorded a rating of 1.6%, the lowest episode rating for MBC.[31] The 29th episode later recorded 1.5%, with the biggest problem stated to be the failure of the writer and director to set the genre and issues with the script and plot which affected the performances.[32][33][34] Whilst the audience ratings were below expectations locally, the drama was better received internationally and has a rating of 9.3/10 on the international premium licensed streaming site Viki.[35]"