Talk:Symplocarpus foetidus

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Trscavo in topic Taxon name

“heralding spring”

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Someone has a very dry sense of humor; odd when discussing wetlands flora. —12.72.68.134 09:38, 5 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Range maps

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Here are two range maps:

Submitted, Saturday, Jun 24, Michael,inHOT,YumaAZ--Mmcannis 22:09, 24 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

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It's not "unrelated" to Western Skunk Cabbage.....it's in the same subfamily. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snakewriggle (talkcontribs) 04:14, 14 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

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better photos of typical plants

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The article needs better photos of typical plants at various stages of development. The two thumbs of File:Eastern_Skunk_Cabbage_along_brook_in_sprintime.jpg and File:Skunk_cabbage_and_marsh_marigolds.jpg are useful but those detailed photos are not usable without clicking/enlarging. The article itself needs a good gallery for browsing at a glance, showing typical views of a single plant at various stages of development.-71.174.176.65 (talk) 19:33, 13 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

However, see WP:NOTGALLERY. Peter coxhead (talk) 19:50, 13 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Celsius to Fahrenheit

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When I was looking at the article, I saw that it said "Eastern skunk cabbage is notable for its ability to generate temperatures of up to 15–35 °C (27–63 °F) above air temperature." I checked on Google and found out that 15 °C is actually equal to 59 °F and 35 °C is equal to 95 °F. I am unable to fix this myself, so if anyone could, I would be most grateful. Thanks in advance, TheWikiSearcher (talk) 23:27, 25 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

  Not done The original is correct. The key is the word "above". Yes, a temperature of 15 °C is about 60 °F, but a temperature change of 15 °C is a temperature change of 9/5*15 = 27 °F. (The reason is that the difference between the boiling and freezing points of water is divided into 100 Celsius degrees and 180 Fahrenheit degrees, so a change of 5 Celsius degrees = a change of 9 Fahrenheit degrees. But they don't start at the same point: the Fahrenheit scale has its zero 32 of its degrees below the Celsius scale. So converting temperatures and converting temperature changes needs different formulae.) Peter coxhead (talk) 08:42, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Common name

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What are the origins of the common name skunk cabbage? Not "skunk", but "cabbage"? (Wild guess: it flowers on or about St. Patrick's Day, which is associated with corned beef and cabbage.) Tom Scavo (talk) 16:33, 24 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

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  This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 6 September 2022 and 9 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Lisa12138 (article contribs).

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Taxon name

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I removed the category Category:Taxa named by since Linnaeus did not name Symplocarpus foetidus. However, I'm not sure who gets credit in this case: Salisbury, Barton, or both? If you know the answer, please let me know. Thanks! Tom Scavo (talk) 17:44, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Peter coxhead: can you answer this question? TIA Tom Scavo (talk) 17:50, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Trscavo: the problem is that there's no clear advice that I can find on what "named by" means for ICNafp names. Linnaeus definitely did name Symplocarpus foetidus; he first published the epithet foetidus and this is forever associated with the species. If it were a name under the ICZN, that would be the end of it. But botanists also show who authored the combination, so it could be argued that the combination author(s) also "named" the taxon. "Ex" authorship is a complicating issue. My interpretation of "Salisb. ex W.P.C.Barton" is that the combination was suggested but not formally (validly) published by Salisbury and was first published by Barton, i.e. Salisbury suggested the combination but Barton actually made it. So who named it depends on what you mean by "named". The simplest approach would be to credit every person named in the authority. But it needs a wider discussion in my view. Peter coxhead (talk) 18:41, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks @Peter coxhead:. Let's see if someone else weighs in. Tom Scavo (talk) 19:27, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
On second thought, I'm gonna give Barton credit since he was the first to validly describe Symplocarpus foetidus. If someone thinks that Salisbury deserves credit as well, they can add a second category. Thanks! Tom Scavo (talk)