Talk:String Quartet No. 16 (Beethoven)

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I put up a stub flag on this article. Beethoven's op135 certainly deserves a page more than the current version, despite that the page was created in 2002. Frigoris 16:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Variation form uncommon?

From the article: "For the third movement, Beethoven used variation techniques, which is uncommon for pieces written in sonata form." That's really not true. Many, many sonata form works have a variation form slow movement. The ninth symphony comes to mind immediately, but there are many others. NeverWorker (Drop me a line) 12:20, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

You are right. Haydn also did this quite a bit. I removed it the statement about it being uncommon.DavidRF (talk) 13:37, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Material from Beethoven Project

I've found some great material which can be incorporated here:
Martin Saving. "Must it be? Must what be?". The Beethoven Project..
Bubka42 (talk) 03:50, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Added some description of the movements, though I'm not sure if the poetic extracts from Earsense are very encyclopaedic. Also found an entire thesis on the quartet! Bubka42 (talk) 06:11, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

More on variations

"For the third movement, Beethoven used variation techniques; he also did this in the second movement of his Quartet op. 127." In fact, Beethoven included a theme-and-variation movement in every one of the late quartets except Op. 130! I have removed the sentence. The entry now has little useful information, though plenty has been written on the quartet. I hope somebody will take some time with it. Opus131 (talk) 05:52, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

still, more could be said.

Variation form: not uncommon, I agree. A scherzo whose trio rises a step on every appearance - less common... Schissel | Sound the Note! 01:56, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

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