Talk:State highways in Oregon

Latest comment: 16 years ago by Dan ad nauseam in topic Updated References

We have a problem with the naming of articles

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The Highway numbers are unsigned. Routes are signed. The articles should be at Oregon Route XX. --SPUI (talk) 18:09, 6 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

I will be adding highway number cross-references to the name designations in the route articles, with a link to a secret highway number article I am adding. Dan ad nauseam 22:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
I would recommend not creating a new article, as I think this article, State highways in Oregon, covers the difference between signed routes and unsigned highways sufficiently well. Besides, "secret highway number" is not an encyclopedic term, and a neologism besides.
I'd already tweaked your edits to Oregon Route 3 before I saw this. -- NORTH talk 22:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
I was using the secret number terminology after seeing it used elsewhere. I won't object to the article being rejected. Dan ad nauseam 23:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
I see you're changing the links to reflect what I did on OR 3. If so, you might want to consider tagging the secret highway number article with {{db-author}} to nominate it for speedy deletion.
Also, please read the message I left on your user talk page. -- NORTH talk 23:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
As part of the route/highway number cross-reference project, I have revised the OR 99E Bus article and part of the OR 99W article to conform the references to the format NORTH and I have agreed to. Comments always appreciated. Dan ad nauseam 00:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

US Highway 320 in Oregon?

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The page for U.S. Highway 320 doesn't mention anything about Oregon; it only mentions Wyoming. I've never heard anything about a US 320 in Oregon. Any references? --EngineerScotty 21:46, 15 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

It doesn't seem to have existed. The 1925 plan had a US 320 in Idaho and Washington, but nothing in Oregon. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 06:12, 31 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
Er, looking at that a bit more, Oregon is typoed as Washington. So 1925 US 320 would have entered Oregon, but that was never posted, as US 20 was replaced by US 30 in and west of Idaho for the final (late 1926) plan. The US 30 article has some details. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 06:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Redoing the list

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1-199 200-999
Current Routes Former Routes
2
Route 3
Route 6
Route 7
Route 8
Route 10
Route 11
14
15
Route 18 (Business)
Route 19
Route 22
23
26
Route 27
Route 31
32
Route 34
Route 35
Route 36
Route 37
Route 38
Route 39
Route 42 (42S)
Route 43
Route 46
Route 47
50
Route 51
Route 52
Route 53
54
Route 58
Route 62
Route 66
Route 69
Route 70
Route 74
Route 78
Route 82
Route 86 (86S)
90
Route 99 (99E; 99E Business; 99W)
Route 103
Route 104 (104S)
Route 120
Route 126 (Business)
Route 130
Route 131
Route 138
Route 140
Route 141
Route 153
Route 154
Route 164
Route 173
Route 180
Route 182
Route 194
Current Routes Former Routes
Route 200
Route 201
Route 202
Route 203
Route 204
Route 205
Route 206
Route 207
208
209
Route 210
Route 211
Route 212
Route 213
Route 214
215
Route 216
Route 217
Route 218
Route 219
220
Route 221
Route 222
Route 223
Route 224
Route 225
Route 226
Route 227
Route 228
Route 229
Route 230
231
232
Route 233
Route 234
235
236
Route 237
Route 238
Route 240
Route 241
Route 242
Route 244
Route 245
Route 250
Route 251
Route 255
Route 260
Route 273
Route 281
Route 282
Route 293
Route 331
Route 332
Route 334
Route 335
Route 339
Route 350
Route 351
Route 361
Route 370
Route 380
Route 402
Route 410
Route 413
Route 414
Route 422 (422S)
Route 429
Route 451
Route 452
Route 453
Route 454
Route 501
Route 528
Route 540
Route 542
Route 551

Route 372 is not listed in [1] but we have an article on it. Has it been decommissioned? Was it ever a Route, or only a Highway?

ODOT lists Route 372 as unassigned as of 1/22/07. Dan ad nauseam 22:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

I recommend moving all the articles to either Route X (Oregon) or OR Route X (Oregon) - "Oregon State Route" is a neologism not used by ODOT. I can't figure out whether they use Route or OR Route more often - can someone who knows more about it comment on that? --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 06:35, 31 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

[2] is a very useful file, by the way. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 08:00, 31 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Merging equals bad

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Since Routes and Highways are entirely different things, these lists should not be merged. However, the routes section on the highway page should be moved here. Routes can run on several different highways (kind of like your commute runs on several different roads). Routes sometimes run on county roads as well as state highways. For example ROUTE Interstate-84 runs on both the Columbia River AND Old Oregon Trail HIGHWAYS. ROUTE 213 runs on Cascade HIGHWAY and Marion County ROADS. Bdag 05:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

The new route numbers

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I just checked ORS Ch. 366 and the 2002 special session records. I don't see any legislation mandating the new route numbers; are we sure this isn't just a decision within ODOT? Dan ad nauseam 22:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Seriously, I think the reference to 2002 legislation is in error. Dan ad nauseam 00:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

I think you're right. Last time you asked, I looked into it, and can't find anything to say one way or the other. For now, I'm going to keep it as is with a big tag at the top of the section, since it's pointless to change it to anything else when we can't cite that either. -- NORTH talk 01:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
I think that we should acknowledge the existence of the route numbering project, but leave it at that. The ODOT route list cites dates of establishment of the route numbers and posting status as of May 2005. Dan ad nauseam 03:28, 7 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
You're totally right. 2002 was a special session of the legislature and they did not address the issue. The 2001 session was a regular session and no bills for that year refer to the numbering/naming of state highways. --Katt 07:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

I just noticed that someone is propagating this error on individual route pages. Can the editors do something about this? Dan ad nauseam 22:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

I have them all on my watchlist and haven't noticed anything. Are you just referring to when the articles were originally created? If so, then yes, those probably need to be fixed. -- NORTH talk 01:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
Quite possibly. I noticed it on the OR 551 page, which appears to be an original error. Dan ad nauseam 20:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

OK, I've edited this section on the main page. Dan ad nauseam 21:16, 21 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia:State route naming conventions poll/Part2

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This state's highway naming convention is up for debate above. Feel free to participate. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 05:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply


Flagging of OR 173

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Can someone take a look at OR 173 and figure out why it got flagged? 01:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean the {{confusing}} tag that the anon added? It must be because in the intro it says that it is Route 173, and later it says it is Highway 173. Katr67 01:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
Looking at the IPs talk page and contributions, I think it would be fine to remove the tags, since no reason for the tagging was given in the first place. -- NORTH talk 02:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

OR 569

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Just thought I should mention that Beltline Road in Eugene is currently being signed as OR 569. Might be good to add that and make an article. 67.171.228.14 23:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)Reply


Updated References

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With ODOT reissuing its Route Descriptions in 2007, we need to update the articles referencing the prior log. Dan ad nauseam (talk) 08:34, 4 February 2008 (UTC)Reply