Talk:Sports league

Latest comment: 10 days ago by 2001:8003:9100:2C01:B150:204C:65CD:3FA0 in topic Needs to split or at least re-organize along pro/am lines

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what is the three major sports in cleveland please send back fast i really need it

from stephane from austraila

While this is late, you didn't exactly ask in the right spot. However, to make you feel better, that'd be the NFL (Browns), MLB (Indians), and NBA (Cavaliers). Matt Yeager (Talk?) 22:29, 19 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Multi-sport leagues edit

In the US, in both high and college sports leagues, conferences, and/or districts are in fact multi-sport organizations, although each sport has its own competition with its own champion. Wschart (talk) 14:46, 15 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

DRL edit

Does this qualify as a sport league? Ramesty (talk) 03:47, 20 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Needs travel[l]ing versus in-house section edit

Could use an explanation of the difference between in-house leagues and traveling (BrEng: travelling) leagues, i.e. those in which all competition is at a single venue, versus those in which players/teams go to different venues in same league region – usually a city, for amateur leagues, but can be both smaller (neighborhoods/districts) or, especially for larger am leagues in team sports, more broadly regional. Section could then support section redirects from Traveling league, Travelling league, and In-house league. Some league systems (e.g. the American Poolplayers Association) support both league formats.  — SMcCandlish ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ʌ<  11:04, 12 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Needs to split or at least re-organize along pro/am lines edit

This article basically has a WP:DICDEF problem, in trying to be an article about a term, which has multiple very different meanings. A league is either a system under which professional competition is organized (NHL, MLB, NFL/AFL – essentially synonymous with association in some other sporting contexts like FIFA and its national-affiliate associations, or otherwise a touring-pro system of invitational or open pro competitions); or it is an amateur/recreational system of competition for fun and minor prizes, usually operated on a local franchise level (when not just entirely local). There's very, very little overlap between them (e.g. I know of one am pool league that can feed players into a pro tour, but this is uncommon). The bulk of the present article is mostly a WP:SUMMARY approach to various professional leagues, and this is a reasonable start, but there's little room for coverage of notable am leagues, which is probably where the future of development is. Doing that expansion in the present article structure and implied scope would be jarring and potentially confusing.

I think this piece should be made even more SUMMARY-style, with maybe a "History" section on the evolution of the concept, followed by a "Professional leagues" section that has intro material distinguishing things like round-robin and cup-based team systems from touring-pro event series (mostly a team vs. individual distinction); then briefly [even more so than presently] summarize various major professional leagues on a per-sport basis (lots of use of {{Main}}).

After all this, have an "Amateur leagues" section arranged on similar principles, and with some overview material on how league franchise operations generally work. That would make this a bit more like an elaborate WP:SETINDEX article. That last big section could really WP:SPINOUT as Amateur league (leaving behind a very compressed summary and no list of am leagues at Sports league), so that the two decreasingly related concepts of am recreational leagues and pro system leagues are less confusingly commingled. PS: The thread above this would also get resolved more easily; the traveling/in-house distinction is only meaningful for am leagues, and editors with a place to focus on that would work on it; as long as there's just a single monolithic article on sports leagues, and it's almost entirely focused on pro material, that work is self-evidently unlikely to happen.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  00:12, 29 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

I don't see it as a pro/am divide. It seems more like an organization/system one. This article originally described the organizational concept and was later expanded to include various systems use to run competitions among other things. This whole area is a bit of a mess, with several other articles on the same or closely related subjects that probably need rationalization:
There are many more, but these came to hand quickly. wjematherplease leave a message... 15:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
I do not see how amateur is different from professional league in organizational terms and why they should be different. They are certainly different in commercialization and publicity due to advertising, but certainly cannot be different or does not have to be different in organization. Appearance of professional sports is connected with wealth accumulation and there is a reason why British football shifted away from differentiating professional and amateur football within its sports community. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 16:52, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply