Talk:Silvio Scaglia

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Latest comment: 11 months ago by ምቕያር ኩነታት ኣየር in topic Early career 1-source reliance

Religion of Silvio Scaglia, was it an interfaith marriage to Julia Haart? edit

Can anyone help find a RS for Silvio Scaglia's religion. I was able to locate this on https://blurred-reality.com/silvio-scaglia-haart/ : "Religion: Born in Switzerland and moved to Italy for work, Silvio Scaglia Haart and his family follow the Christian religion." The question is important because if Silivio Scaglia is indeed still Christian (or born into a Christian family) and he has not converted to Judaism (he took on her last name "Haart" but did he or did he not also take on her religion?), then his marriage to Julia Haart is an interfaith marriage, meaning has Julia Haart married out of her religion (Judaism). Can anyone clarify the denomination of the clergy-person at their 2019 wedding? This information is important. Thank you,IZAK (talk) 01:21, 4 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Silvio Scaglia Last name edit

the correct enty should be Silvio Scaglia and not Silvio Scaglia Haart 1) According to Recording in Borsa Italiana and CONSOM (Italian SEC) the last name is "Scaglia" without the suffix "Haart" which is apparently his wife last name. [1]

There are plenty of recording , interviews, etc where his legal last name is Scaglia

2) the daugthers last name is Scalgia , i.e. Haart is not a legal name

3) the ref article does not contain any refernce to Scaglia changing name. simply he got married "article is here enclosed: In ‘My Unorthodox Life,’ Julia Haart Bares More Than Just Her Knees Less than a decade after fleeing a repressive ultra-Orthodox Jewish community, Haart heads a global talent empire. Her next challenge? Letting viewers peek behind the curtain. Top of Form Bottom of Form

By Alexis Soloski Published July 13, 2021Updated July 15, 2021 “I just don’t believe that God would put me into hell because my knees show,” Julia Haart, 50, said. This was on a blazing July morning, in a room off the lobby of Haart’s hyperluxury Tribeca building, a week or so before the July 14 premiere of “My Unorthodox Life,” a nine-episode unscripted Netflix series about her life. As she lounged on a marshmallowy sofa, Haart’s knees showed, elegantly, below the hem of a floral Dior minidress, above custom-made Gucci platform sandals, through beige fishnet stockings. (She also wore a square-cut diamond, of the approximate dimensions of a Starburst chew.) Nine years ago, Haart kept everything covered — knees, collarbones, hair. A homemaker and mother of four who sold life insurance on the side, she lived in an ultra-Orthodox Jewish community just north of New York City. So miserable that she often contemplated suicide, Haart fled in late 2012. In fashion, she found self-determination. Correction: July 13, 2021 An earlier version of this article misstated the time it took Julia Haart to debut a shoe brand after leaving her ultra-Orthodox Jewish community. It was a few months, not two years. A version of this article appears in print on July 17, 2021, Section C, Page 1 of the New York edition with the headline: Uncovered, And Enjoying Complexity"

As result, there is no evidence of any name change. so the Page should be renamed after Silio Scaglia only

From a strictly encyclopedic standpoint we should report facts , not "desires" . and being Mr Scaglia an Italian citizen to legally change your last name there is a very strict legal procedure that ends with a "law" registered in the official gazzette. Shantaram1 (talk) 21:26, 3 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

The referenced article makes clear saying "who now goes by Silvio Scaglia Haart". There are many similar sources including an Oprah Daily article here which says "Silvio took his wife's last name when they were married in 2019", a Time Magazine article here ("Silvio Scaglia Haart (who took the last name she gave herself upon leaving the Monsey fold)"), SCMP here ("Silvio took Julia’s surname when they got married in 2019") and many others.
Articles from a decade before their marriage, or mentioning his children's last names, prove little about his own current last name. On Wikipedia we rely strictly on published sources and references and not original research. (WP:NOR) | MK17b | (talk) 01:08, 5 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Haart should be removed from the title — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.224.30.226 (talk) 15:01, 11 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

If we have a source that he has now removed Haart from his last name then if could be removed. | MK17b | (talk) 01:22, 13 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

How would we be able to provide a source? Would a passport copy be enough? 87.224.30.226 (talk) 17:37, 17 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Passport copy would violate WP:NOR. Reliable reporting that Scaglia no longer goes by Haart would be enough. | MK17b | (talk) 04:57, 18 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for letting me know. Would it then be possible to amend the title of the page or does a redirection need to occur? 195.194.24.143 (talk) 09:55, 18 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

References

Sexist edit

If you compare his page to Julia’s.. . Clear sexism is present. #allabouttheguys 73.185.182.49 (talk) 04:50, 8 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Early career 1-source reliance edit

The whole Early career section was written based on a single source, an article Le Nuove Vite di Scaglia. I believe multiple sources should be used once so many facts are presented at once. ምቕያር ኩነታት ኣየር (talk) 12:05, 19 June 2023 (UTC)Reply