Talk:Shawn Lane

Latest comment: 11 years ago by Kiefer.Wolfowitz in topic Cause of death?

List of the Rock Guitarists on Wikipedia edit

I have put Shawn's name in the list of instrumentan rock artists on Wikipedia. It was a big surprise for me not to find him there!

I edited out the "citation needed" tag for the line "showed a lot of promise." That's not a line you're going to find a citation for. If someone has an issue with that line, either discuss it as NPOV or have the balls to take it out. Don't just go slapping an irritating "citation needed" tag on things that could be better edited.

question edit

Should this article not mention his stunning technical ability on the guitar? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.173.145 (talk) 02:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

He certainly was stunning(understatement). But personal opinions or original research are not allowed on Wikipedia. Only verifiable referenced content that is cited from reliable sources. 156.34.209.243 02:48, 16 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Erm, that's like saying biblical reference, which is a personal belief, should be cited from verifiable and reliable sources. It is as a matter of fact belief in something which is uniquely unverifiable. So should Wiki remove every biblical reference and citation on it's pages? My guess is they won't. Any musician, or non-musician can indeed mention Shawn's stunning technical ability as I believe his albums are indeed real, and stand as factual evidence to this statement.

Surely it's neither personal opinion or original research, it's well documented fact! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.198.163 (talk) 22:02, 2 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

It likely is well documented. And if those references are from verifiable and reliable sources then they can be added in. But opinions lacking citations are original research on Wikipedia and can't be added without proper references. See WP:CITE. Blogs, chats and fansites are not reliable sources and can't be added to Wikipedia as per WP:EL. A direct quote from a professional publication can be added if it's verifiable and referenced properly with an inline cite. But even then, peacock term and fancrufting can't be added into the lead-in. They can be added in proper chronology to the rest of the article content. IE: If Guitar Player Magazine said he was a truly gifted guitarist in 2001... then that could be added in. A Guitar Player Magazine PSecial Issue was put out in early 2007 with Lane on the cover... I'm suprised someone hasn't lifted a quote from it yet. It would be allowed if it had the proper reference. 156.34.230.78 23:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)Reply



I think someone needs to remove the bit about his "psoriasis" because I do not think it is true. It doesn't fit the info about this elsewhere on wiki (treatment is the use of NON-STEROIDAL anti-inflamatories) and I sense this is a rumor that has somehow sprouted up in order to apologize for his weight problem. He got progressively fatter as time went by but my understanding is that it was from other factors (eating, smoking incessantly, non-active, body type that was conducive to gaining weight).  ? Can someone check into that? thanks, Professor Greibowitz. 75.65.40.109 (talk) 18:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Sorry Professor Greibowtz, treatments for Psoriatic arthritis include Corticosteroids, so your complaint is not valid and the information IS found elsewhere on wiki.--Shreddakj (talk) 02:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

I met Shawn several times during his life, and he told me he learned guitar first, but his main instrument was piano. You can ask his sister Mitzi if you need more info. Actually, you really should contact Mitzi to bulk up this whole article about Shawn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.242.190.143 (talk) 04:02, 13 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

irrelevant text? edit

Why is this line in the section on Lane's death: "His friend Vijay Raj Singh, a noted physician and a multi-instrumentalist Indian musician, had moved from Memphis but had remained close to him during his final years." What does it have to do with anything else in that paragraph?

I removed it.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 11:45, 20 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Tri-tone fascination edit

I have created a page for The Tri-Tone Fascination. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shreddakj (talkcontribs) 12:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Cause of death? edit

There is no cause of death listed. Can anybody find an obituary in a reliable source (WP:RS)? (My search with Google only found guitar-fora.) Thanks!  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 09:42, 20 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

I added cites listing lung-related complications. However, a fan should have an obituary that would better than citing his official website and Guitar World/Player.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 11:45, 20 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Removed section on equipment, per WP:RS edit

I removed this section, which lacked reliable sources.

Equipment

During the Powers of Ten years, Lane used an Ibanez Saber and Ghostrider, as well as a sunburst yellow Charvel 750XL. For amplification, he used Holmes Mississippi Bluesmaster amps—often four at a time set at various levels of delay from one another. Shawn also used a Class A Single-Ended stereo tube 100 watt amp built by Bob Gjika. [citation needed] He used multiple amps because he liked to play in quadraphonic. In addition to the Holmes, Shawn used a Westbury (later Nady) overdrive pedal. Later in his career with Hellborg, he used and endorsed Vigier guitars; specifically the Excalibur, of which a Shawn Lane signature model was made available in 2005. Throughout this time, Lane used various amplifiers. Lane used several Line 6 DL4 delay pedals at the same time. In 2003, a video was shot of him playing a Martin Backpacker guitar in Shillong, India.[1]

  1. ^ "‪Shawn Lane acoustic Jamming with locals in Shillong, India‬‏". YouTube. 2008-02-14. Retrieved 2011-07-10.

The citation of YouTube is a textbook example of WP:OR. There are also concerns about YouTube and this video's compliance with copyright, performance, and personality rights, which need to be considered before reposting the video link (immediately after a citation to a reliable source).

I earlier three external links to Vigier guitars, per WP:EL. Thanks!  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 11:43, 20 May 2012 (UTC)Reply